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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 9, 2017 23:34:15 GMT -5
i think some folks loved egg foo [yung] way more than readers did.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 10, 2017 7:18:47 GMT -5
i think some folks loved egg foo [yung] way more than readers did. Egg Fu is the poster boy for the contempt Robert Kanigher held both Wonder Woman and her readers in. Cei-U! The yolk's on us! |
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Post by SJNeal on Jul 10, 2017 10:57:46 GMT -5
How about Kurt Busiek and Triathlon? I generally love the guy, but not sure what the heck he was thinking there. . Not even Silverclaw?! |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 10, 2017 11:07:50 GMT -5
Silver claw was just a nothing and I'll lump her in with the likes of Deathshrike and the Captain Britain that they made an Avenger right before disassembled. Triathlon was down right annoying.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:37 GMT -5
Silver claw was just a nothing and I'll lump her in with the likes of Deathshrike and the Captain Britain that they made an Avenger right before disassembled. Triathlon was down right annoying. Why was he annoying? I seriously don't get the hate. |
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Post by badwolf on Jul 10, 2017 16:15:27 GMT -5
Silver claw was just a nothing and I'll lump her in with the likes of Deathshrike and the Captain Britain that they made an Avenger right before disassembled. Triathlon was down right annoying. Why was he annoying? I seriously don't get the hate. I think people see him as a token of diversity, a character with an unnecessary message. I didn't find Triathlon the least bit interesting until the Triune story arc came to a conclusion. The double-size issue that finally told his full origin was epic. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 10, 2017 19:26:47 GMT -5
I wasn't reading the Avengers when Triathlon came along but I must say, the character concept doesn't exactly grab my imagination. Not that I think it's all that easy to come up with interesting new superheroes. Full marks to Busiek and Perez for making the effort.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 10, 2017 19:53:39 GMT -5
I wasn't reading the Avengers when Triathlon came along but I must say, the character concept doesn't exactly grab my imagination. Not that I think it's all that easy to come up with interesting new superheroes. Full marks to Busiek and Perez for making the effort. Wasn't he a re-invention of a 50s Atlas hero? |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 10, 2017 21:32:57 GMT -5
I wasn't reading the Avengers when Triathlon came along but I must say, the character concept doesn't exactly grab my imagination. Not that I think it's all that easy to come up with interesting new superheroes. Full marks to Busiek and Perez for making the effort. Wasn't he a re-invention of a 50s Atlas hero? that begs the question of 'definition': since atlas 'evolved' into marvel, is it therefore an 'evolution', vs. 're-invention'? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:43:38 GMT -5
I wasn't reading the Avengers when Triathlon came along but I must say, the character concept doesn't exactly grab my imagination. Not that I think it's all that easy to come up with interesting new superheroes. Full marks to Busiek and Perez for making the effort. Wasn't he a re-invention of a 50s Atlas hero? No. He was based on 3-D Man created by Roy Thomas in 1977. The confusion was because Roy wrote his adventures as taking place in the 1950's and he was in an 1950's Avengers story. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 10, 2017 22:23:41 GMT -5
Wasn't he a re-invention of a 50s Atlas hero?
since atlas 'evolved' into marvel, is it therefore an 'evolution', vs. 're-invention'? Do you mean "raises the question" of what a definition is? |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 0:09:54 GMT -5
that begs the question of 'definition':
since atlas 'evolved' into marvel, is it therefore an 'evolution', vs. 're-invention'? Do you mean "raises the question" of what a definition is? no, as that would be Felarca's gig.  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 11, 2017 7:51:01 GMT -5
Do you mean "raises the question" of what a definition is? no, as that would be Felarca's gig. I only ask because that isn't what it means to beg a question. Just wanted to be sure I understood what you were saying. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 11, 2017 7:58:33 GMT -5
how would you yourself draw the destinction?
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 11, 2017 10:18:39 GMT -5
how would you yourself draw the destinction? "Begging" the question has come to mean "raising" the question, which is how I thought you meant it. In fact it's a logical fallacy that refers to cases when a speaker uses a circular argument to try to prove an assertion. For example, "Marvel's superhero movies are a significant phenomenon of 21st century culture; just look at all the press they get." The speaker is trying to prove that these movies are significant is important by citing the amount of press coverage they receive, which is hardly proof of their importance. The speaker is assuming what he is trying to prove. Or, "Left to their own devices, people will behave immorally because human beings have a predisposition toward evil." The speaker is assuming that a bent toward evil is settled law, so to speak. Because so many commentators, politicians, and publications use the term to mean "bring up the question," or even "avoid" the question," it can be difficult at times to decipher exactly what they're trying to say. It's probably better to substitute "assuming a conclusion" for "begging the question." Or avoid it altogether, as I do.  |
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