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Post by The Captain on Dec 15, 2017 8:29:50 GMT -5
I really hope they recast all of the new X-Men with the exception of Quicksilver. The rest of them have the charisma and appeal of a wet bag of noodles. It will be interesting to see how that would work. If Disney incorporates the X-Men into the MCU, they have a big problem with Quicksilver, as he is dead in the current MCU but alive in Fox's X-Verse. Also, what does this mean for mutants? Can the MCU finally acknowledge them as existing, and will Disney cast aside the Inhumans now that they aren't needed as a proxy? Lastly, on the Doctor Doom matter, they can do what they've always done in the comics whenever something bad happens to Doom: say it was actually a Doombot and ignore the consequences. |
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Post by Warmonger on Dec 15, 2017 9:23:11 GMT -5
I really hope they recast all of the new X-Men with the exception of Quicksilver. The rest of them have the charisma and appeal of a wet bag of noodles. It will be interesting to see how that would work. If Disney incorporates the X-Men into the MCU, they have a big problem with Quicksilver, as he is dead in the current MCU but alive in Fox's X-Verse. Also, what does this mean for mutants? Can the MCU finally acknowledge them as existing, and will Disney cast aside the Inhumans now that they aren't needed as a proxy? Lastly, on the Doctor Doom matter, they can do what they've always done in the comics whenever something bad happens to Doom: say it was actually a Doombot and ignore the consequences. Yeah, I forgot about the inferior Quicksilver in Age of Ultron. Would be a waste if they don’t incorporate the Evan Peters version. And they should introduce Doom as soon as possible IMO. I still think Gary Oldman would be an amazing choice to portray him, even if he is pushing 60. Hell, RDJ is in his mid-50’s at this point and I don’t see anyone complaining about him being too old to play Stark. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 10:56:10 GMT -5
As exciting as it is having all the Marvel toys in the same sandbox, it does come at the price of thousands losing their jobs as Disney eliminates redundancies between the two companies to streamline as they always do when the acquire something. So yes, excited to see FF and X-Men back to Marvel, but that's not worth the cost of what will happen to many real people with families who will undergo severe hardship because of those merger.
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Post by String on Dec 15, 2017 11:26:51 GMT -5
Also, what does this mean for mutants? Can the MCU finally acknowledge them as existing, and will Disney cast aside the Inhumans now that they aren't needed as a proxy? A good consideration but I'd rather see them kept separate from the MCU mainly because I fear the biggest potential for their inclusion would be to set them up against the Avengers in some big manner and frankly, I'm sick & tired of that. If Disney is intent on developing their own streaming service, and given the limited but critical success of shows like Legion and The Gifted, the mutants seem ripe for TV development instead. Plus, I'm more excited over the opportunity to see and buy more legit X-merchandise now that the Mouse officially owns them again. |
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Post by Jesse on Dec 15, 2017 15:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by Warmonger on Dec 15, 2017 15:49:47 GMT -5
I don’t even think they’re marketable in big budget movies anymore. Every Fox produced FF movie was worse than the one that preceded it. As long as characters like the X-Men, Doctor Doom, Silver Surfer and Galactus can be included in future MCU movies, I’m happy. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 23:10:22 GMT -5
So there has already been calls for hearings on the merger by the Senate Judiciary Anti-Trust committee and Variety is reporting that it is expected to take 12-18 months to sort out the regulatory factors before the deal can be finalized and approved at the Fed level, so it'll be at least 2 years before we see any content emerge form this deal as nothing can be put in motion until all the regulatory stuff is finalized. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 7:26:58 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Dec 16, 2017 7:30:30 GMT -5
So there has already been calls for hearings on the merger by the Senate Judiciary Anti-Trust committee and Variety is reporting that it is expected to take 12-18 months to sort out the regulatory factors before the deal can be finalized and approved at the Fed level, so it'll be at least 2 years before we see any content emerge form this deal as nothing can be put in motion until all the regulatory stuff is finalized. -M I'm glad for this. Disney owns too much of our mainstream media already. |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 16, 2017 10:08:43 GMT -5
So there has already been calls for hearings on the merger by the Senate Judiciary Anti-Trust committee and Variety is reporting that it is expected to take 12-18 months to sort out the regulatory factors before the deal can be finalized and approved at the Fed level, so it'll be at least 2 years before we see any content emerge form this deal as nothing can be put in motion until all the regulatory stuff is finalized. -M I'm glad for this. Disney owns too much of our mainstream media already. Agreed. It's funny that after all of the government-forced break-ups of the giant monopolies that existed during the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th centuries starting with the Sherman Act in 1890, because they felt those companies were just too large and not good for the public, we're back to consolidation of entities just a century later. It's also quite sad that there are few championing the cause that Senator Sherman did when he said "If we will not endure a king as a political power we should not endure a king over the production, transportation, and sale of any of the necessaries of life." |
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Post by rberman on Jan 3, 2018 15:02:58 GMT -5
So there has already been calls for hearings on the merger by the Senate Judiciary Anti-Trust committee and Variety is reporting that it is expected to take 12-18 months to sort out the regulatory factors before the deal can be finalized and approved at the Fed level, so it'll be at least 2 years before we see any content emerge form this deal as nothing can be put in motion until all the regulatory stuff is finalized. -M I'm glad for this. Disney owns too much of our mainstream media already. I'm not thrilled with Disney getting everything that they're getting from Fox due to concerns with anti-competitiveness. But there are clear benefits in the particular case of Marvel Universe characters being reunited after those corporate raiders split them up in the first place just to make a quick buck. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 23:24:38 GMT -5
Don't count your chickens just yet. The way was paved for Disney to make a bid when Concast dropped their bid over regulatory concerns, but reports are circulating that Comcast is securing finances to place a bigger bid than Disney on the Fox assets if the court rules in favor of the AT&T/Time Warner merger which would set precedent for Comcast to get approval for the acquisition of the Fox assets by regulatory overseers. If they do, it could trigger a bidding war between Disney and Comcast, or cause Disney to pass meaning the Marvel properties would not be united under Disney and FF/X-Men characters would not be available for the MCU. The earliest the Disney deal could be finalized is 2019, and the decision on AT&T/Time Warner is due well before that, so Comcast would have plenty of time to make the bid for Fox if that decision goes the way they want it. On the other hand, if the AT&T/Time Warner deal gets shot down, there is little chance the Disney acquisition of Fox would be approved anyways. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 22:56:28 GMT -5
Shareholder vote is Friday (tomorrow), but it seems to be a done deal. Rumors are out there that the first casualties of the merger will be that both the New Mutants movie and the X-Men Dark Phoenix movie are going to be shelved and not released. -M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 27, 2018 8:38:54 GMT -5
Shareholder vote is Friday (tomorrow), but it seems to be a done deal. Rumors are out there that the first casualties of the merger will be that both the New Mutants movie and the X-Men Dark Phoenix movie are going to be shelved and not released. -M That's just weird, I haven't been following developments of the Dark Phoenix film but the New Mutants seemed pretty close to release. I know films that have been nearly finished or completely finished have been canned in the past but that was because it was thought they wouldn't make money...but this is the x-men, they might not be breaking box office records but they make cash all the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 16:01:28 GMT -5
If I were King of Disney and got the merger through, I would can the Dark Phoenix film, on the grounds that (1) they probably don't want to carry on with that cast, script or director, (2) they are astute enough to realise that the franchise hasn't "earned" the Dark Phoenix storyline yet and would want to build towards it, (3) they have the whole cosmic side of Marvel which would allow them to bring in the Shi'ar etc and dramatically increate the scale of the story and (4) after the epic disaster of Apocalypse, the film is probably crap anyway
OTOH, provided the NM film is any good (which by all accounts is a pretty major caveat, admittedly), I would let it go out, as it's superhero-horror is a variant which hasn't been done yet, and ther might be a market for it
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