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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 27, 2018 20:13:04 GMT -5
Shareholder vote is Friday (tomorrow), but it seems to be a done deal. Rumors are out there that the first casualties of the merger will be that both the New Mutants movie and the X-Men Dark Phoenix movie are going to be shelved and not released. -M That's just weird, I haven't been following developments of the Dark Phoenix film but the New Mutants seemed pretty close to release. I know films that have been nearly finished or completely finished have been canned in the past but that was because it was thought they wouldn't make money...but this is the x-men, they might not be breaking box office records but they make cash all the same. Could have a new plan in place now that they have the rights back. Maybe try to find a workaround into the MCU. Personally I don't mind if X-Men is it's own separate thing. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 27, 2018 20:16:04 GMT -5
Oh good. More consolidation into monopolistic corporations.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 27, 2018 20:53:45 GMT -5
Oh good. More consolidation into monopolistic corporations. On a macro scale, I agree with you in that this is yet another step back toward the kind of consolidation that originally resulted in the Sherman Antitrust and Clayton Acts over 100 years ago. On a micro level, I would have been OK with this if it only involved Marvel/Disney getting the rights to their IP back. The MCU has done a great job at world-building, and having all of their characters and concepts available in the sandbox can only lead to a richer experience with a more concise vision. |
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Post by rberman on Jul 28, 2018 7:18:48 GMT -5
Shareholder vote is Friday (tomorrow), but it seems to be a done deal. Rumors are out there that the first casualties of the merger will be that both the New Mutants movie and the X-Men Dark Phoenix movie are going to be shelved and not released. That sounds like good news to me. I love the New Mutants and Sienkiewicz in particular, and this particular production seems to have been quite troubled. Fox was well on their way to screwing up Dark Phoenix a second time. I would rather they just didn't try. Let that storyline be Marvel Phase 5, and I bet it will be done right, without shoehorning Magneto in for instance. Introduce some Shi'ar into Guardians 3, and an actual M'Krann Crystal movie suddenly becomes viable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 12:31:10 GMT -5
Now those rumors are being denied and both films are said to be released (but both are in the middle of massive reshoots, and they had to bring in a new director to do the reshoots of the New Mutants as the director they had only wante dto do a horror movie and had no familiarity or love of super-heroes and it was said the characters came across as generic and nearly unrecognizable in the original edit of the film, and that both tested very poorly with survey audiences leading to the reshoots. Who knows how much is rumor, how much has a grain of truth at this point
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Post by spoon on Jul 29, 2018 11:59:47 GMT -5
Now those rumors are being denied and both films are said to be released (but both are in the middle of massive reshoots, and they had to bring in a new director to do the reshoots of the New Mutants as the director they had only wante dto do a horror movie and had no familiarity or love of super-heroes and it was said the characters came across as generic and nearly unrecognizable in the original edit of the film, and that both tested very poorly with survey audiences leading to the reshoots. Who knows how much is rumor, how much has a grain of truth at this point -M New Mutants was originally scheduled to be released five months ago (in February 2018). If I recall correctly, the release date was pushed only a couple before it was to open. Now, the current release date is more than a year from now. The test screenings must've been disastrous. I read an article about it, and supposedly there are big problems. It was suggested that the movie would be an adaptation of the Demon Bear storyline. However, I read that the Demon Bear was just involved in one scene, almost like a throwaway. I liked X-Men: Apocalypse. It certainly could have been better, but I thought it was solid. Overall, I'd rather see X-Men: Dark Phoenix be released. I hate the idea that the new X-Men movie would be far away if this one is scrapped and who knows what the new version would be like. Also, I just want X-Men: The Last Stand to be wiped out as the general public's image of the Dark Phoenix Saga. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 23:23:38 GMT -5
Well everyone looking for Marvel Studios X-Men and FF movies, don't hold your breath, Kevin Feige has said it's going to be a long time before you see those. After Disney oversees the release of the Dark Phoenix and New Mutants movies Fox made under the Fox banner, they have no plans in motion to use either properties for the foreseeable future. Feige said they have a 5 year plan for Phase IV after Avengers Endgame, and since the merger hadn't happened when they made those plans, neither franchise figures into those plans, so you are looking at likely at least 5 years, if not longer, before they release anything with those franchises. Feige said basically it's nice to know those characters are back home where they belong, but plans were already made and set in motion and will have to come to fruition before time and resources are used on those acquisitions.
Five years is probably a decent span to let those franchises lie fallow before rebooting them for the MCU with a fresh start, Long enough for people to start to miss them and put the previous versions in the rear view mirror.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 9, 2019 10:52:55 GMT -5
Well everyone looing for Marvel Studios X-Men and FF movies, don't hold your breath, KevinFeige has said it's going to be a long time before you see those. After Disney oversees the release of the Dark Phoenix and New Mutants movies Fox made under the Fox banner, they have no plans in motion to use either properties for the foreseeable future. Feige said they have a 5 year plan for Phase IV after Avengers Endgame, and since the merger hadn't happened when they made those plans, neither franchise figures into those plans, so you are looking at likely at least 5 years, if not longer, before they release anything with those franchises. Feige said basically it's nice to know those characters are back home where they belong, but plans were already made and set in motion and will have to come to fruition before time and resources are used on those acquisitions. Five years is probably a decent span to let those franchises lie fallow before rebooting them for the MCU with a fresh start, Long enough for people to start to miss them and put the previous versions in the rear view mirror. -M Plus, five years in movie production terms, isn't really that long. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 3:11:20 GMT -5
If they wanted to, they could reschedule, like they did when they got Spider-man back - I suspect they're happy to let sleeping dogs lie for a bit; let everyone's memory of the foX-Men dim, so that the Marvel version isn't competing with fresh memories, and hope everyone has forgotten crapt4stic, though I don't expect f4 to be introduced in their own film.
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Post by majestic on May 24, 2021 17:22:40 GMT -5
And now rumors are floating again that Disney may buy the new Warner Discovery merger since AT&T is giving hints that it may sell it. Amazon is rumored to be interested also.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 24, 2021 19:39:40 GMT -5
That leads to an to a lot of fun internet discussion topic... what if Marvel and DC both end up in the same comglomerate.... would they merge them? Keep them separate, but maybe do an occassional crossover? Or business as usual.
Anyone ready to read 'Crisis of Infinite Secret Wars'?
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Post by shaxper on May 24, 2021 22:12:51 GMT -5
My question with this particular merger is whether congress will be more likely to smell an antitrust issue now that the Democrats control the House.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 25, 2021 0:42:12 GMT -5
My question with this particular merger is whether congress will be more likely to smell an antitrust issue now that the Democrats control the House. That is a very likely scenario, though neither the House nor this administration has been shown to be that hostile to corporate mergers. Remains to be seen , but there would likely be some talk. Amazon would probably lead to fewer objections. As for what would happen to DC, if it were to become a reality; Disney is all about intellectual property. they would keep things going, in some form, to maintain trademarks, but the emphasis would be even greater on other media. Quite frankly, that isn't any different than how Warner treated DC. Question is, would they maintain two separate publishing entities that don't earn significant revenue from publishing or just merge them together? I have a sneaking suspicion that there would be a big push at both Disney and within Marvel to consolidate it all under the Marvel banner. Mixing the characters in, from an editorial and story standpoint, would be a complete nightmare; but, crossovers would be likely. Batman would continue to be heavily exploited and wonder Woman, because of the name value. I don't think Superman would fare well, though who knows? |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 26, 2021 13:36:46 GMT -5
Amazon just acquired MGM, for $8 billion and change. That would be a factor in Amazon acquiring Warner, as well as Disney's market share. Of course, any roadblocks depend entirely on this administration being tougher on corporate mergers than previous, including the Obama Administration, while Biden was VP. From a sheer market share factor, it should be blocked as monopolistic. With Amazon, you are creating a vertical monopoly (controlling an industry at every level, from creation/manufacturing to distribution to market). Again, we haven't see real anti-trust maneuvers by the government in decades. Just look at the Diamond situation in the 90s, where the DOJ let them create a distribution monopoly. One of the few instances I can cite where they stepped in were when Barnes & Noble wanted to acquire Ingram Distribution (which serviced book stores across the country) and with Microsoft attempted acquisition of Intuit, who made Quicken, also in the 90s.
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