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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 21, 2014 6:42:02 GMT -5
There are so many good comic book artists that draw the female form excellently. And there are some that although are good artists, miss the mark. Pick a artist that is good and an artist that's poor art this.
Me first-
Good: Adam Hughes
Bad: Jim Starlin
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 21, 2014 6:44:38 GMT -5
Thought you meant Best Female Artist!
Tie: Ramona Fradon and Marie Severin
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 21, 2014 9:10:13 GMT -5
Good -- Nester Redondo
Bad -- Jack Kirby
Starlin's art for my first read I didn't like almost all the way through. I've gotten to enjoy his art when it's something he's written or his own creations. But his women still need a few curves. They are really flat I guess I would say.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 21, 2014 9:11:52 GMT -5
Thought you meant Best Female Artist! Tie: Ramona Fradon and Marie Severin I thought the same too and I'm ashamed the only two female artists that came to mind were Amanda Conner and Louise Simonson. Edit: And after a quick thought I'm not sure Louise did art. She just wrote? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 9:34:18 GMT -5
To Hal's list -- with which I of course heartily agree, though not surprisingly I give the edge fo Mirthful Marie -- I would add, of more recent vintage, in no particular order, Amanda Conner, Ramona Scott, Chynna Clugston-Latest Husband (which sounds horrible, I know, but it's changed at least 3 times & I've lost track of the latest iteration; god knows, having been married twice myself by age 27, I'm hardly criticizing), Stephanie Buscema, Colleen Coover, Emily Stone, Emma Rios, & -- cover artists only (AFAIK) -- Tara McPherson & ... uh, whoever did a Hack/Slash cover a few years ago that I aboslutely love but can't find depicted in Lone Star's listings; I thought she had a regular gig doing fronts for Unwritten or Fables or some such title that I've never bought, but again I find no evidence of that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 9:35:16 GMT -5
Thought you meant Best Female Artist! Tie: Ramona Fradon and Marie Severin I thought the same too and I'm ashamed the only two female artists that came to mind were Amanda Conner and Louise Simonson. Edit: And after a quick thought I'm not sure Louise did art. She just wrote? Yes. She's a writer/editor. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 9:35:49 GMT -5
Clearly, adam objectifies women based purely on their ... shoes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 9:36:25 GMT -5
Otherwise ...
Good -- Adam Hughes
Bad -- Frank Robbins (duh)
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 21, 2014 9:53:38 GMT -5
After reviewing the underground comix scene lately, some of the women artists who participated really stood out. To wit:Trina Robbins,Dori Seda and Carole Lay
I'm also trying to recall a female artist from the 40s and 50s who was excellent but the name escapes me. Her signed name,obviously hid her female identity so it might have involved a first name as an initial. Her style was somewhat like a Matt Baker .I think she also did jungle stories.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 21, 2014 10:01:10 GMT -5
Clearly, adam objectifies women based purely on their ... shoes. Well I'm certainly not going to stand here and lie to you.... |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 21, 2014 10:04:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 10:29:45 GMT -5
Excellent choice. Didn't Trina R. (whom I meant to mention in my own list) write a book about her fairly recently? From your previous description, I first thought of Tarpe Mills.
Trina makes me think of her collaborator on the much-missed (at least by me) Go Girl, Anne Timmons. And also of another artist I first discovered via Comix Book, Sharon Rudnahl. Also from the undergrounds, Lee Marrs.
And though I'm not sure why, Timmons always makes me think of another female artist from a few years back I really like -- Mary Wilshire.
Others, in this case not from the mainstream comics world at all, whom I like: Alison Bechdel, Ellen Forney.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 21, 2014 10:46:48 GMT -5
Trina might very well have written a book on Lily Renee. I recall a long article in Alter Ego on Lily that might have been an excerpt. Good choices as well with Lee Marrs and Mary Wilshire. And of course there's Weny Pini
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 21, 2014 10:59:46 GMT -5
Wendy Pini -- I'll have to inform my sister of her Beauty & the Beast book she's done, as collects all manner of things from that show.
Those Planet Comics are really good. Someone posted the spider gal one in the cover contest. I particularly like Señorita Rio. That's some nice drawing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:25:54 GMT -5
So I guess I need to ask you to define your terms...what do you mean by good? Do you mean relaistic and believable, or do you mean exaggerated attractive pin up meant to appeal to the libido.
Hughes woman may look good-but I do not for a second ever get the feeling that any of the women he draws are capable of the feats of athleticism, violence, and physicality required of most action heroes, meanwhile, Starlin's Gamora, labelled the most danerous woman in the universe looks lithe, athletic, capable and well dangerous even if she is not curvy and vivacious. If I am reading action adventure, sci-fi, super-hero, etc, stories of capable women, I want my women to look capable and believable. I don't need, or even want pin up art from my comics, there are much better sources to get it elsewhere if I want that kind of thing. So for comic storytelling art I would flip flop your Hughes and Starlin as bad and good. And I say this as a big fan of Frazetta and the ubiquitous Frazetta women, so I appreciate the form expressed in art, it's just works against the verisimilitude needed t tell fantastic stories with believable characters in comics.
I think one of the best at finding the balance between beautiful and capable is Terry Moore, even if I have't read all that much of his stuff, what I have seen form his art books and the few issues I have sampled looks pretty good and is very realistic/believable.
As for female artists aside form those already mentioned like Colleen Doran, Emma Rios, Trina Robbins, Wendy Pini, Marie Severin, Ramona Fradonn et. al.
Jan Duursema, Becky Cloonan, Carla Speed McNeil, Jill Thompson, Tajanta Wood (colorist), Laura Martin (colorist), Laura Allred (colorist), June Brigman, Rachel Dodson (inker), Pia Guerra, Fiona Staples, Cynthia Martin, Glynis Oliver (colorist), Nicola Scott, Sara Pichelli, Melinda Gebbie, and more if you look. The sad part is you do have to go looking.
-M
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