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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 16, 2019 18:26:26 GMT -5
Man, I really loved everything that Sal Buscema brought to his work. I didn't really follow him to his Spider-man or DC work but he was as solid a storyteller as they come.
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 16, 2019 19:34:43 GMT -5
It was in Spectacular Spider-Man that Sal changed his inking style, something he picked up from Bill Seinkenwicz(sic). And went on to do a great run of total art. Some of the best of his carreer. He was tired of hearing he was a hack because Marvel was asking so much of him and he was doing a lot of layout work for lesser artist. He really soared on SSM.
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Post by Duragizer on Mar 16, 2019 19:51:36 GMT -5
I started reading the Spidey comics shortly before the Clone Saga began, so I'm well acquainted with Sal Busema's work on SSP. I don't much care for the period when Sienkiewicz was inking his pencils, but before and after, I feel his art was really clean and dynamic. Such an underrated artist.
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Post by rberman on Mar 16, 2019 19:55:23 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of Spidey, but Amazing Spider-Man #229-230 with Juggernaut gets my vote among those I have.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 17, 2019 22:57:18 GMT -5
There really should be a Spider-Man comic, titled Seminal Spidey Stories! They could bring back Easy Reader (who was Morgan Freeman, on the Electric Company, which partnered with Marvel, on the comics), from the Spidey Super Stories.
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 11, 2019 2:05:23 GMT -5
ending my exploration of the Spiderverse with Kraven's Last Hunt (I have no interest in reading any stories past that point). That's as good a point as any to stop, although I would a least try the Straczynski run. I actually prefer the soap opera elements over the superheroics much of the time. I like reading about Peter's maturing relationship with Gwen, Captain Stacy's growing interest in Spider-Man, etc. but then the throwaway A-plots with Vulture or Mysterio get in the way and I start losing interest. Maybe I've just been spoiled on serialized storytelling. It was the PP half that really made the comic for most, so you were spoiled the right way.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 11, 2019 6:57:59 GMT -5
All of the JM Dematteis/Sal Buscema stuff from Spectacular is great...it really, and I mean really, delves into the minds of it's characters, and goes often beyond hero/villain situations and shows it's characters to all be flawed and damaged individuals struggling with their lot. Sal Buscema's slightly jagged, sharp style is a fascinating mix of Silver Age/Marvel House style adapting to the post-MacFarlane era. I forgot to agree with this. So Spider-Man doesn't really work when he's married. Spider-man is all about comparing and contrasting the trials and problems of Spider-Man contrasted with the trials and problems of Peter Parker. Now I'm not saying that stable, faithful married couples are inherently boring but... Yeah, no. I tell a lie. Stable married couples are inherently boring. Sorry, stable married people here. I am sad that you are boring, too!* Romantic tension is a huge source of both plot and conflict in virtually all genre fiction. You remove that and writers have to scramble to fill the void. And Spider-man is much young man soap-opera-y-er than other superhero books, because the Romita Sr. run is the model for all Spider-man stories that other writers copied or deviated-from-with-extreme-awareness. Now, as a reader I really like married Spider-man. As a long time superhero fan I appreciate creators forced to deviate from traditional storytelling modes. Married Spidey is a bitch to write, and leads to hilarious plot-lines like "Mary Jane is smoking cigarettes!" Or "Shit, this is too hard to write, let's introduce a clone version of the younger Spider-man so we can go back to ripping off Stan Lee and not have to think so much." JM Dematteis/Sal Buscema run worked around this amazingly well. It totally (A) ignored most of the thematic core of Spider-man as a character, and (B) leaned into the idea of Spidey and MJ as a family unit. The JMD/SB run was, thematically, all about the creation, development, and dissolution of family structures. It didn't really feel like traditional Spider-man but that's fine, this was better. "Family" was always one of JMD's pet themes, and marriedSpidey let him tell the kind of multi-layered, thematically rich, and adult (in the best possible way!) stories that you really didn't get at Marvel post 1980. My Best Spider-Man run rating**: 1) Lee/Ditko (First 3/4ths) 2) JMD/Buscema 3) Lee/Romita (First Half) 4) Stern/Other Romita (Second Half) 5) I dunno... There's a lot of mediocre Spider-man. I like Conway/Andru out of nostalgia. Paul Jenkins did some great work in the early aughts, but that turned bad eventually. Not sure. * I'm exactly 50% kidding and 50% not kidding here. ** Not counting Marvel team-up, which I irrationally love.
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