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Post by aquagoat on Apr 6, 2019 6:48:13 GMT -5
Basically, I sat there for the whole time and did not do me any justice at all. Everyone at the theatres applauded it and I'm a old school comic book fan that I felt it should had done better. I'm with mrp on his understanding of his acting and did not care for it. I'm not seeing this movie again. No offence, but from your comments you went in with the attitude that the movie should have pandered to you and your expectations (because you're a more 'worthy' viewer as a comic fan) and because it didn't, it failed. Would you rather the movie left you applauding and everyone else in the theatre feeling it should have been better? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 7:14:37 GMT -5
Basically, I sat there for the whole time and did not do me any justice at all. Everyone at the theatres applauded it and I'm a old school comic book fan that I felt it should had done better. I'm with mrp on his understanding of his acting and did not care for it. I'm not seeing this movie again. No offence, but from your comments you went in with the attitude that the movie should have pandered to you and your expectations (because you're a more 'worthy' viewer as a comic fan) and because it didn't, it failed. Would you rather the movie left you applauding and everyone else in the theatre feeling it should have been better? I did not applauded for it ... the other moviegoers did enjoyed it ... and it was not to my expectations resulting a D+ grade. I'm just saying that and went in with an open mind about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 9:13:53 GMT -5
I had the opposite reaction. LOVED Shazam. I have seen it twice! But I thought Capt Marvel was just OK. Everyone likes different things for different reasons.
IMO DCEU has had 3 hits with WW, Aquaman and Shazam. Good for them. |
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Shazam!
Apr 6, 2019 16:29:14 GMT -5
Post by tarkintino on Apr 6, 2019 16:29:14 GMT -5
Shazam was a disappointment across the board. It might as well have been a film from a different studio, because it was so removed from all that was consistently linking the other DC films. Its no secret this is all thanks to WB's weak-knee overreaction to some fans believing DC should not be serious are darker than an episode of Scooby-Doo, or the Super Friends, or else the world falls apart.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 2:15:21 GMT -5
I don't think there is much of a rebellion against DC being dark per se (though dark Superman is a tough sell), it's a rebellion against being dark and crap. I think there's plenty of room for a dark take on superheroes - Batman, the New Mutants as a horror film angle, Swamp Thing, Deathlok, Punisher could all be dark films, but don't make films dark (in tone or colour palette) for bright heroes (Supes, JL etc)
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Post by aquagoat on Apr 7, 2019 6:36:37 GMT -5
Shazam was a disappointment across the board. It might as well have been a film from a different studio, because it was so removed from all that was consistently linking the other DC films. Its no secret this is all thanks to WB's weak-knee overreaction to some fans believing DC should not be serious are darker than an episode of Scooby-Doo, or the Super Friends, or else the world falls apart. I don't recall an episode of Scooby-Doo where a vengeful son and a load of monsters embodying sin massacre a boardroom full of people...the DC films have humour now, but that doesn't mean they're avoiding scary or dark moments. The general consensus among general audiences, and critics, was that the Snyder films were too po-faced and serious. Meanwhile, Marvel films are full of comedy and people love them. Ergo, Warner Bros lighten up their DC films. It's the obvious thing to do. |
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Post by aquagoat on Apr 7, 2019 6:40:38 GMT -5
I don't think there is much of a rebellion against DC being dark per se (though dark Superman is a tough sell), it's a rebellion against being dark and crap. I think there's plenty of room for a dark take on superheroes - Batman, the New Mutants as a horror film angle, Swamp Thing, Deathlok, Punisher could all be dark films, but don't make films dark (in tone or colour palette) for bright heroes (Supes, JL etc) I don't think it's a binary choice. It's getting the balance right. If you look at Star Wars, Back to the Future or Indiana Jones, they combine scary and dark moments with humour and lightweight moments. Some films lean closer in one direction than the other (The Winter Solider more serious, Ant-Man more comedic) but they all combine both. The key thing is to make it fun for the audience, and two hours of po-faced Batman and Superman did not have that effect. |
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Post by brutalis on Apr 8, 2019 7:57:36 GMT -5
A good adaptation of NU52 Shazam. Fun and funny at the same time and hopeful that the "heroes" can grow a bit more mature in future movies (you know there will be more) of the Shazam family. If you are a CC Beck Captain Marvel/Shaza, fan then this movie version is a total fail in every way, getting nothing as accurate or right based upon the original concept. But if you enjoy the Geoff Johns new family of shared powers version and can simply relax and enjoy then you will like this very much.
While the previews pointed towards childish humor the movie actually avoids going overly immature and opts for tweenager style comedy/humor for the most part. So little kids will have something to enjoy, the teen's and adults will have things to enjoy making this one of the stronger family superhero movies. Have to say I laughed at more of the humor/jokes in Shazam than at Deadpool.
For me the biggest let down was some of the CGI effects. The 7 Deadly sins all kind of ran together with little to making them stand out differently. The same brown tone and design for ALL only helped to show that they weren't all that important. Mark Strong was good but a bit lacking in the villain department and would have liked to seen a bit more of him as the super smart scientist before going full blown super-villain. Too much long distance CGI work where the bodies were all small zooming across the screen only goes to highlight that Warner's doesn't have the dollars like Disney for the really good effects. But for the most part the CGI wasn't terrible or an eye-sore for viewing.
What does it say about Billy as the "champion" that all 5 of his adopted family figure out how to utilize their powers within minutes of gaining them and he kept on goofing up and mishandling his? And that ALL of his super family showed more ability and smarts figuring out Sivana's weakness while human and as kids while Billy is supposed to have the wisdom of Solomon? Poor Mary Marvel really got short shrift in the fight sequences if you are a fan of hers (I think more folks like Mary over Billy) and with what they set up here in this 1st movie Mary could really have her own movie if she goes to college in California!
Overall a really nice movie that you didn't have to know anything about Shazam going into it and leave feeling as though you did get your money's worth for a very fun and entertaining Saturday matinee!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 8:18:27 GMT -5
My LCS had a poll of this movie and they all say that this movie is a C+ and most of them have mixed feelings seeing it again.
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Shazam!
Apr 9, 2019 10:51:12 GMT -5
Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 9, 2019 10:51:12 GMT -5
For me, this was one of the most entertaining superhero movies I've seen in a while.
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 9, 2019 11:51:04 GMT -5
An interesting tidbit from Walt Hickey's Numlock News newsletter:
"Apparently, a majority of viewers of this movie about a comic book character for children were under the age of 25, and one in three was under the age of 17."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 13:37:16 GMT -5
I saw it this morning and absolutely loved it. Fun and good balance of heroics, heart, and humor!
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Shazam!
Apr 14, 2019 17:35:23 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 17:35:23 GMT -5
I saw it this morning and absolutely loved it. Fun and good balance of heroics, heart, and humor! I'm surprised of this ... but, we each of our own and I'm do agree on one thing it did had some heart into it and that's the only thing that I've liked about it! |
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Shazam!
Apr 16, 2019 0:38:37 GMT -5
Post by tarkintino on Apr 16, 2019 0:38:37 GMT -5
I don't recall an episode of Scooby-Doo where a vengeful son and a load of monsters embodying sin massacre a boardroom full of people...the DC films have humour now, but that doesn't mean they're avoiding scary or dark moments. The overall tone is Scooby-Doo and Super Friends--more of a wink at the kids, instead of a serious story. Either its a superhero story, or its not. Marvel films barely have an individual voice--most follow the same formula: thin story ( The Winter Soldier and The First Avenger being rare exceptions), too many jokes at the wrong times, and a pile of fan service/Easter eggs just to lure you to the next film as if that was the point of the film. DC movies never needed to go on that direction, and when they do--as seen in Shazam and Aquaman, one has to ask, "why see this, when I can get this in Marvel movies?"In other words, if I'm going to see a Star Trek film, I want to see Star Trek, not Star Wars warmed over. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 16, 2019 23:11:34 GMT -5
I don't recall an episode of Scooby-Doo where a vengeful son and a load of monsters embodying sin massacre a boardroom full of people...the DC films have humour now, but that doesn't mean they're avoiding scary or dark moments. The overall tone is Scooby-Doo and Super Friends--more of a wink at the kids, instead of a serious story. Either its a superhero story, or its not. Eh, I've probably read/seen 50,000 superhero stories and I don't think I've read one that should be taken seriously. |
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