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Shazam!
Aug 17, 2019 17:35:31 GMT -5
Post by The Captain on Aug 17, 2019 17:35:31 GMT -5
Watched this on the plane from Dallas to D.C. I didn't have too. The entertainment options were heavy on that flight, along with having my Kindle with me. But what the hey. Overall it was a decent movie. It wasn't good by any means. But it was a safely mediocre film that cribbed a little too much from Big. I'll likely never feel compelled to watch it again, but I don't feel bad for having seen it. I watched this on my flight back from the UK on Thursday, and my feelings are pretty much the same. It was an acceptable way to pass two hours, and I'm pretty sure I will never invest two hours of my life to watch it a second time.
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Shazam!
Nov 16, 2019 21:31:44 GMT -5
Post by rberman on Nov 16, 2019 21:31:44 GMT -5
I finally saw the film tonight. I know little about the character except a few memories from the live-action show in the 1970s. Some thoughts:
• I highly enjoyed Zachary Levi’s man-child performance. I don’t know any of his other work, but his behavior seemed very reasonable for that character in those circumstances. Granted, the comic book version is more mature, but they can always do that in the next movie, after Billy is more accustomed to heroics. It will make a natural progression from this film.
• Sivanna was terrible, and I was always glad when his scenes ended. Not the actor; he was alright, though I was distracted by how much he looked like Steve Carrell playing Baron Von Strucker. But if you want to do a “Captain Sparklefingers vs his equal and opposite,” obviously Black Adam is the villain you want. Sivanna is supposed to be a mad genius, but he didn’t do one smart thing the whole movie.
• The Djimon Honsou wizard scenes… were they supposed to recall Morgan Freeman satirizing that same basic character in The Lego Movie?
• Overall tone was jarring. The Captain Sparklefingers scenes were lighthearted fun. The Sivanna scenes were boring PG-13 dark. Pick a lane! Hint: The correct lane should have been “lighthearted fun” throughout. This ain’t Constantine. Speaking of which:
• Sivanna shouldn’t even have been in this film, at least not as the direct heavy. They made a movie where “Seven Deadly Sins” demons were featured heavily, and they missed an obvious opportunity to build the movie around that theme. Right off the bat I thought of two ways that could be handled.
-----One would be for the Seven Sins to get loose and cause themed problems around the world. Lust causes everyone in Philadelphia to start kissing on each other. Greed generates a spree of citizen robberies. Sloth turns all the air traffic controllers in to listless slackers. Envy and Jealousy tag-team an AARP convention or something. Whatever. That gives the film structure as Billy has to run around putting out all these different crises, plus one final confrontation against the demons’ combined might. They could have even included Sivanna as a scientist trying to help Billy, and it all goes badly wrong, and he loses his hair and, oh wait, that’s Luthor, but still something in that department rather than Sivanna just being boringly nasty from the get-go because his dad yelled at him in the car one time. It would have given Billy and Sivanna a badly needed connection beyond "I need to kill you so I can say I'm strongest, except I forgot Superman exists in this world so I still have a problem."
-----The other way would be smaller: The seven deadly sins infect seven members of Billy’s household, probably with himself being one of them. Lots of opportunities for lighthearted action there.
• Billy's mom. That non-revelation made zero sense. The cops couldn't track her down? Really? Did she change her name and move houses right after she abandoned her son? And her parents never looked for their grandchild? He should have been a real orphan.
• They should have saved the Marvel Family for the next film, to get some replay value out of the “learning my powers” trope instead of showing them all as instantly competent, even the seven year old girl who doesn’t know what a “lair” is.
• Little goofy plot things, like everybody running back to the amusement park just as the super-fight was winding down. I don’t think so! Why were the two bullies the only ones on the ferris wheel? Sparklefingers having enough lightning control to charge people’s cell phones as he strolled past.
Bottom line: It’s not as needlessly joyless as DC’s other recent offerings, but neither was it the optimistic romp it could have been. “Selfish kid learns to overcome his darkness and embrace heroism” was done much better in Disney/Marvel’s “Big Hero 6.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 12:14:45 GMT -5
First look at the Shazam Family in Fury of the Gods:
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Shazam!
Jun 23, 2021 22:15:56 GMT -5
Post by codystarbuck on Jun 23, 2021 22:15:56 GMT -5
I hate Johns' take on the material; but, I didn't hate the first film. Didn't think it was great; but, it was okay enough to be entertaining. They really need to do more to flesh out Mary and Pedro in the sequel, as they barely had personalities in the first film, which is one of the things I didn't like. Need to get Black Adam into things quickly, though they are still holding out for a Black Adam solo film that has been in development since 2008, with Dwayne Johnson involved (Shazam dates back to the beginning of the Millennium, from the William Goldman script). I say it's time to put up or shut up for that or move things forward without Johnson. If you can't get a script together in that amount of time you never will.
I do think these need to be lighter and stay that way, as the uneven tone in Shazam hurt it. The lighter stuff worked well, the darker Sivana (White Adam, really) did not.
They need to solve the problem with the name. Calling him Shazam, when he can't say the name, is the dumbest idea yet with the character. Calling him Captain Thunder was a better solution; heck, give him a promotion and call him Major Marvel. Marvel doesn't have a trademark on that (and can't just arbitrarily trademark the word Marvel, other than as a brand name for their comics).
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Shazam!
Jun 24, 2021 19:11:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 19:11:18 GMT -5
They are about 3 weeks away from completing filming on Black Adam.
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Shazam!
Jun 26, 2021 20:04:24 GMT -5
Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2021 20:04:24 GMT -5
If he cuts a promo about what the Adam is cooking, I'm outta there!
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Shazam!
Feb 17, 2022 22:12:43 GMT -5
Post by badwolf on Feb 17, 2022 22:12:43 GMT -5
This was actually entertaining, although they made some weird choices. Why merge Sivana and Black Adam? At least, it seems like that's what they did. Adam was mentioned, though not by name, by Shazam, so why not use him? Still, he was fun to watch.
And yeah the whole thing about Billy's mom abandoning him didn't make sense to me either. Also she said she was 17... so she had him when she was what, 12?
It's too bad Marvel & DC can't have joint use of the name, like they did for so many years in the comics.
The fake muscle suits for everyone were so poorly designed and cheap looking. Jackson Bostwick looked better!
Loved Mr. Mind at the end (and yes I did notice him at the beginning as well.)
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Shazam!
Feb 19, 2022 0:53:21 GMT -5
Post by codystarbuck on Feb 19, 2022 0:53:21 GMT -5
This was actually entertaining, although they made some weird choices. Why merge Sivana and Black Adam? At least, it seems like that's what they did. Adam was mentioned, though not by name, by Shazam, so why not use him? Still, he was fun to watch. And yeah the whole thing about Billy's mom abandoning him didn't make sense to me either. Also she said she was 17... so she had him when she was what, 12? It's too bad Marvel & DC can't have joint use of the name, like they did for so many years in the comics. The fake muscle suits for everyone were so poorly designed and cheap looking. Jackson Bostwick looked better! Loved Mr. Mind at the end (and yes I did notice him at the beginning as well.) Not so much joint use as specific use. DC could still call the character Captain Marvel, but not in a title; so, they just tapped out. Still, calling the guy Shazam doesn't work, just by the basic convention of the whole thing. Yeah, I know, civilians thought that was the name; but, nyah.... Obviously, no one had any confidence in Sivana as a mad genius, because 90% of Hollywood can't write that without being over-the-top campy, which could still work for Captain Marvel. Hell, 98.99% of DC and/or Marvel can't write that, since they all have chips on their shoulders about being called nerds by the jocks. Comics have to be SERIOUS and so do comic-based movies! I'll show everyone who ever laughed at me............ See, you'd think it would be easy for nerds-turned-pro; but, not enough therapy to embrace the lunacy. Or too much....I don't know. If you ask me, embrace bat-s@#$ insane for Captain Marvel, because serious superhero doesn't really work, so why not? They can't do whimsy: so, swing for stands with lunacy, I say. Of course, that would mean someone would actually have to take a chance. Can't have that in a corporate environment. Anyway, if it can at least be as watchable as the first, they will be doing all right (so long as they characters get a bit more development and they don't just repeat scenes). I can't understand why Hollywood is so afraid of going with actual cloth for the costumes, rather than molded latex and such. It photographs better and you can get more vibrant colors, without it going off kilter. The costume they came up for Stallone, in the first Judge Dredd worked pretty well and that would be great, for the Marvel Family. Worked for Tom Tyler and Jackson Bostwick looked okay, though a tunic instead of a t-shirt would have worked better.
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Shazam!
Feb 25, 2022 8:46:05 GMT -5
Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 25, 2022 8:46:05 GMT -5
This was actually entertaining, although they made some weird choices. Why merge Sivana and Black Adam? At least, it seems like that's what they did. Adam was mentioned, though not by name, by Shazam, so why not use him? Still, he was fun to watch. And yeah the whole thing about Billy's mom abandoning him didn't make sense to me either. Also she said she was 17... so she had him when she was what, 12? It's too bad Marvel & DC can't have joint use of the name, like they did for so many years in the comics. The fake muscle suits for everyone were so poorly designed and cheap looking. Jackson Bostwick looked better! Loved Mr. Mind at the end (and yes I did notice him at the beginning as well.) Not so much joint use as specific use. DC could still call the character Captain Marvel, but not in a title; so, they just tapped out. Still, calling the guy Shazam doesn't work, just by the basic convention of the whole thing. Yeah, I know, civilians thought that was the name; but, nyah.... Obviously, no one had any confidence in Sivana as a mad genius, because 90% of Hollywood can't write that without being over-the-top campy, which could still work for Captain Marvel. Hell, 98.99% of DC and/or Marvel can't write that, since they all have chips on their shoulders about being called nerds by the jocks. Comics have to be SERIOUS and so do comic-based movies! I'll show everyone who ever laughed at me............ See, you'd think it would be easy for nerds-turned-pro; but, not enough therapy to embrace the lunacy. Or too much....I don't know. If you ask me, embrace bat-s@#$ insane for Captain Marvel, because serious superhero doesn't really work, so why not? They can't do whimsy: so, swing for stands with lunacy, I say. Of course, that would mean someone would actually have to take a chance. Can't have that in a corporate environment. Anyway, if it can at least be as watchable as the first, they will be doing all right (so long as they characters get a bit more development and they don't just repeat scenes). I can't understand why Hollywood is so afraid of going with actual cloth for the costumes, rather than molded latex and such. It photographs better and you can get more vibrant colors, without it going off kilter. The costume they came up for Stallone, in the first Judge Dredd worked pretty well and that would be great, for the Marvel Family. Worked for Tom Tyler and Jackson Bostwick looked okay, though a tunic instead of a t-shirt would have worked better. For this, I actually really like the overly rubber look. Captain Marvel is what a kid thinks a superhero should look like, and in this day and age with how the previous superheros were brought to the screen a rubber looking suit fits right in.
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Shazam!
Feb 25, 2022 12:16:34 GMT -5
Post by codystarbuck on Feb 25, 2022 12:16:34 GMT -5
Not so much joint use as specific use. DC could still call the character Captain Marvel, but not in a title; so, they just tapped out. Still, calling the guy Shazam doesn't work, just by the basic convention of the whole thing. Yeah, I know, civilians thought that was the name; but, nyah.... Obviously, no one had any confidence in Sivana as a mad genius, because 90% of Hollywood can't write that without being over-the-top campy, which could still work for Captain Marvel. Hell, 98.99% of DC and/or Marvel can't write that, since they all have chips on their shoulders about being called nerds by the jocks. Comics have to be SERIOUS and so do comic-based movies! I'll show everyone who ever laughed at me............ See, you'd think it would be easy for nerds-turned-pro; but, not enough therapy to embrace the lunacy. Or too much....I don't know. If you ask me, embrace bat-s@#$ insane for Captain Marvel, because serious superhero doesn't really work, so why not? They can't do whimsy: so, swing for stands with lunacy, I say. Of course, that would mean someone would actually have to take a chance. Can't have that in a corporate environment. Anyway, if it can at least be as watchable as the first, they will be doing all right (so long as they characters get a bit more development and they don't just repeat scenes). I can't understand why Hollywood is so afraid of going with actual cloth for the costumes, rather than molded latex and such. It photographs better and you can get more vibrant colors, without it going off kilter. The costume they came up for Stallone, in the first Judge Dredd worked pretty well and that would be great, for the Marvel Family. Worked for Tom Tyler and Jackson Bostwick looked okay, though a tunic instead of a t-shirt would have worked better. For this, I actually really like the overly rubber look. Captain Marvel is what a kid thinks a superhero should look like, and in this day and age with how the previous superheros were brought to the screen a rubber looking suit fits right in. Still looks like they cut up a bunch of dodge balls and sealed them together to make the suit.
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Shazam!
Jul 25, 2022 19:25:39 GMT -5
Post by Batflunkie on Jul 25, 2022 19:25:39 GMT -5
Shazam: Fury Of The Gods Trailer Dropped
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Shazam!
Jul 25, 2022 21:34:51 GMT -5
Post by codystarbuck on Jul 25, 2022 21:34:51 GMT -5
So, now they are stealing doctor gags from the MCU?
Helen Mirren can't be bad in anything; so there is that. For the rest, it's too spastic to really judge. They missed the boat by not making Helen Aunt Minerva. She could have done something with that; but, we can't have nice things. Or, I can't. Whatever.
Looks like a similar tone to the first, which was entertaining enough; but, it doesn't exactly scream something new. If it is that close to the first, I have trouble seeing it limp to a third, unless it is The Big Red Chees vs the Big Rock Cheese.
If ya smelllllllllllllllll...............
what the Rock of Eternity.......
is cooking!
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