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Post by Confessor on May 31, 2018 17:51:02 GMT -5
[Eh, I think there's a big difference between people writing Tarzan, Conan and Holmes stories after the author's deaths and George Lucas selling his Universe lock stock and barrel to another company. Doyle and Burroughs didn't personally approve of further adventures of their characters so it's easy to view them as illegitimate but Lucas knowingly sold it knowing full well that other movies would be made so it's much more of an official passing of the torch; besides it's not as if Lucas didn't let others play with his world before so in that respect as well there's nothing unofficial about the new films, comics and novels. Now, that isn't to say one has to like them, or even take them as "real" in their own minds, only rather that they can't just be dismissed out of hand. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying categorically that the Disney Star Wars isn't cannon; I'm just saying that it's interesting to ponder whether it might not be cannon. The parallel with post-Conan Doyle Holmes stories (like the excellent Seven Percent Solution) or the later Oz stories not written by Frank L. Baum is too conspicuous to ignore for me. It demands consideration. While it's true that Lucas sometimes let others play with his toys, like the Dark Horse comics or the Timothy Zahn novels, those aren't cannon and even at the time Lucas himself had little time for the EU. I mean, he totally ignored and rode roughshod over then-current EU continuity when he made the prequels. And even with SW films he didn't direct, like The Empire Strikes Back, Lucas wrote the storyline and was standing behind Irvine Kershner, making sure that everything was being done to his liking. That constitutes him "signing off" on the film, as far as I'm concerned. Lucas has publically stated that the events of TFA and TLJ are not at all what he had planned for the SW saga -- even likening what Disney did with his characters as like selling his baby to white slavers (and I'm quoting him here). That, to me, has to at least raise the question of whether or not we should consider the sequel trilogy as "real Star Wars" or not.
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 31, 2018 20:20:26 GMT -5
[Eh, I think there's a big difference between people writing Tarzan, Conan and Holmes stories after the author's deaths and George Lucas selling his Universe lock stock and barrel to another company. Doyle and Burroughs didn't personally approve of further adventures of their characters so it's easy to view them as illegitimate but Lucas knowingly sold it knowing full well that other movies would be made so it's much more of an official passing of the torch; besides it's not as if Lucas didn't let others play with his world before so in that respect as well there's nothing unofficial about the new films, comics and novels. Now, that isn't to say one has to like them, or even take them as "real" in their own minds, only rather that they can't just be dismissed out of hand. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying categorically that the Disney Star Wars isn't cannon; I'm just saying that it's interesting to ponder whether it might not be cannon. The parallel with post-Conan Doyle Holmes stories (like the excellent Seven Percent Solution) or the later Oz stories not written by Frank L. Baum is to conspicuous to ignore for me. It demands consideration. While it's true that Lucas sometimes let others play with his toys, like the Dark Horse comics or the Timothy Zahn novels, those aren't cannon and even at the time Lucas himself had little time for the EU. I mean, he totally ignored and rode roughshod over then-current EU continuity when he made the prequels. And even with SW films he didn't direct, like The Empire Strikes Back, Lucas wrote the storyline and was standing behind Irvine Kershner, making sure that everything was being done to his liking. That constitutes him "signing off" on the film, as far as I'm concerned. Lucas has publically stated that the events of TFA and TLJ are not at all what he had planned for the SW saga -- even likening what Disney did with his characters as like selling his baby to white slavers (and I'm quoting him here). That, to me, has to at least raise the question of whether or not we should consider the sequel trilogy as "real Star Wars" or not. I'm all for head-canon, especially if helps one enjoy a work, but that's all I think can be argued for here with the facts being what they are. Lucas may not enjoy the new sequels, and they aren't the stories he would have told...but he sold the rights to the story to Disney knowing full well that there would be more stories told so that's a tacit approval of anything that comes after as if he didn't want anyone but himself making more Star Wars films he wouldn't have sold the rights. And it's that transaction that makes Star Wars a very different case than post Doyle Homes stories or post Howard Conan stories as those creators never said,"If you pay me, then you can write more stories."
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 1, 2018 3:05:18 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying categorically that the Disney Star Wars isn't cannon; I'm just saying that it's interesting to ponder whether it might not be cannon. The parallel with post-Conan Doyle Holmes stories (like the excellent Seven Percent Solution) or the later Oz stories not written by Frank L. Baum is to conspicuous to ignore for me. It demands consideration. While it's true that Lucas sometimes let others play with his toys, like the Dark Horse comics or the Timothy Zahn novels, those aren't cannon and even at the time Lucas himself had little time for the EU. I mean, he totally ignored and rode roughshod over then-current EU continuity when he made the prequels. And even with SW films he didn't direct, like The Empire Strikes Back, Lucas wrote the storyline and was standing behind Irvine Kershner, making sure that everything was being done to his liking. That constitutes him "signing off" on the film, as far as I'm concerned. Lucas has publically stated that the events of TFA and TLJ are not at all what he had planned for the SW saga -- even likening what Disney did with his characters as like selling his baby to white slavers (and I'm quoting him here). That, to me, has to at least raise the question of whether or not we should consider the sequel trilogy as "real Star Wars" or not. I'm all for head-canon, especially if helps one enjoy a work, but that's all I think can be argued for here with the facts being what they are. Lucas may not enjoy the new sequels, and they aren't the stories he would have told...but he sold the rights to the story to Disney knowing full well that there would be more stories told so that's a tacit approval of anything that comes after as if he didn't want anyone but himself making more Star Wars films he wouldn't have sold the rights. And it's that transaction that makes Star Wars a very different case than post Doyle Homes stories or post Howard Conan stories as those creators never said,"If you pay me, then you can write more stories." So canonicity is as simple as owning the brand?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 1, 2018 9:12:30 GMT -5
I'm all for head-canon, especially if helps one enjoy a work, but that's all I think can be argued for here with the facts being what they are. Lucas may not enjoy the new sequels, and they aren't the stories he would have told...but he sold the rights to the story to Disney knowing full well that there would be more stories told so that's a tacit approval of anything that comes after as if he didn't want anyone but himself making more Star Wars films he wouldn't have sold the rights. And it's that transaction that makes Star Wars a very different case than post Doyle Homes stories or post Howard Conan stories as those creators never said,"If you pay me, then you can write more stories." So canonicity is as simple as owning the brand? It is if the original creator is the one who sold it while still alive and aware that the other party intends to make sequels, yes. In the case of the Burroughs estate licensing out the rights to Tarzan or the Howard estate doing the same it's a different situation, as not only were they not alive to make those decisions but also having a licence to create more works is different than owning the work out right.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 1, 2018 11:20:25 GMT -5
Getting back on track... I few things I noticed:
- The forward of the TPB is by Kevin J Anderson (who is, IMO, the worst hack ever published).. it was interesting to have him discuss the communication and cooperation between the early EU writers though... too bad no one bothers with that anymore.
- I had forgotten Salla was around... I had in my head she was never in the DH continuity.
- I totally am tempted to re-read the Zahn stuff now.. that'll probably happen at some point soon
- I couple things struck me as really odd in the first 2 issues.. First, Han let Lando fly the Falcon while he was on it... I feel like that would never happen, unless it was because he was fixing something.. he could (and did) chat/console/snuggle Leia while he's flying
- Why were Lando and Wedge BOTH on a Star Destroyer? You want Lando (whos a 'General', not a Admiral) to Captain it, fine, but why Wedge too? Why isn't he leading Rogue Squadron, as he does? I mean, I guess everyone by Ackbar is a General in the Rebel Alliance/New Republic, but still.
- I'd have to check, but I feel like the Rebels had alot more than 2 Star Destroyers during the Thrawn trilogy.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 1, 2018 13:46:05 GMT -5
So canonicity is as simple as owning the brand? It is if the original creator is the one who sold it while still alive and aware that the other party intends to make sequels, yes. That seems a very arbitrary definition...who is to say that the original Marvel comics, or the Dark Horse comics, or the original Clone Wars TV series - all 'canon' when created - are not more in tune with what Lucas intended? Lucas gave his employees copies of Dark Empire as Christmas presents, and told Tom Veitch it was the closest thing he'd seen to his ideas for a sequel trilogy. In contrast, he wasn't fond of what Disney did with Episode VII. So which is more legitimate? I don't think you can say the current owners of the brand name take precedence over the artistic intentions of the creator.
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Post by Duragizer on Jun 1, 2018 22:39:09 GMT -5
My own 2 cents — I don't care for "canon". "Canon" is a person/persons declaring one set of imaginary stories more real/true than another set of imaginary stories; I find it perfectly ludicrous. I believe it better and less taxing on the mind to embrace the stories which resonate with me and disregard the ones which fail to, regardless of how they fit together (or don't).
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 2, 2018 5:36:56 GMT -5
[Eh, I think there's a big difference between people writing Tarzan, Conan and Holmes stories after the author's deaths and George Lucas selling his Universe lock stock and barrel to another company. Doyle and Burroughs didn't personally approve of further adventures of their characters so it's easy to view them as illegitimate but Lucas knowingly sold it knowing full well that other movies would be made so it's much more of an official passing of the torch; besides it's not as if Lucas didn't let others play with his world before so in that respect as well there's nothing unofficial about the new films, comics and novels. Now, that isn't to say one has to like them, or even take them as "real" in their own minds, only rather that they can't just be dismissed out of hand. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying categorically that the Disney Star Wars isn't cannon; I'm just saying that it's interesting to ponder whether it might not be cannon. The parallel with post-Conan Doyle Holmes stories (like the excellent Seven Percent Solution) or the later Oz stories not written by Frank L. Baum is too conspicuous to ignore for me. It demands consideration. While it's true that Lucas sometimes let others play with his toys, like the Dark Horse comics or the Timothy Zahn novels, those aren't cannon and even at the time Lucas himself had little time for the EU. I mean, he totally ignored and rode roughshod over then-current EU continuity when he made the prequels. And even with SW films he didn't direct, like The Empire Strikes Back, Lucas wrote the storyline and was standing behind Irvine Kershner, making sure that everything was being done to his liking. That constitutes him "signing off" on the film, as far as I'm concerned. Lucas has publically stated that the events of TFA and TLJ are not at all what he had planned for the SW saga -- even likening what Disney did with his characters as like selling his baby to white slavers (and I'm quoting him here). That, to me, has to at least raise the question of whether or not we should consider the sequel trilogy as "real Star Wars" or not. I know this is really a debate for another thread, but Lucas wasn't happy with what happened with The Empire Strikes Back, which is why he pretty much 'co-directed' - or directed the director on - Return of the Jedi. Lucas thought The Empire Strikes Back was too slow and didn't have enough action. He tried to edit it to be faster and more exciting in tune with his vision, but it didn't work.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 2, 2018 7:19:27 GMT -5
It is if the original creator is the one who sold it while still alive and aware that the other party intends to make sequels, yes. That seems a very arbitrary definition...who is to say that the original Marvel comics, or the Dark Horse comics, or the original Clone Wars TV series - all 'canon' when created - are not more in tune with what Lucas intended? Lucas gave his employees copies of Dark Empire as Christmas presents, and told Tom Veitch it was the closest thing he'd seen to his ideas for a sequel trilogy. In contrast, he wasn't fond of what Disney did with Episode VII. So which is more legitimate? I don't think you can say the current owners of the brand name take precedence over the artistic intentions of the creator. You and I are on the same page regarding the potential non-cannonicity of Disney Star Wars, aquagoat, but I can't agree that Dark Empire is every bit as legitimate as, say, The Force Awakens. To me, the fact that TFA and TLJ are movies -- with the yellow opening crawl, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hammil etc in it -- means they're much more cannon than a spin-off comic book. I know it's not fashionable anymore, but I still adhere to the old definition of SW cannonical hierarchy, which was published circa 1983 in the old SW fan club newsletter, Bantha Tracks. That is, that the movies trump everything -- they are absolute cannon. Then comes the novelisations of the movies...so, with anything in them that is contradicted by the movies, the movies still take precidence, but anything else in the novelisations is cannon. Then there's the radio dramatisations of the films -- so, anything in them that isn't contradicted by the novelisations or the films is also considered cannon. Lastly there's the novels, comics and things like the Star Wars Holiday Special, which are secondary cannon. So, for me, good as Dark Empire might be, it is definitely secondary cannon and less "official" than the recent films. SW is first and foremost a film series, not a comic book. That's just the way I see it.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 2, 2018 7:26:13 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying categorically that the Disney Star Wars isn't cannon; I'm just saying that it's interesting to ponder whether it might not be cannon. The parallel with post-Conan Doyle Holmes stories (like the excellent Seven Percent Solution) or the later Oz stories not written by Frank L. Baum is too conspicuous to ignore for me. It demands consideration. While it's true that Lucas sometimes let others play with his toys, like the Dark Horse comics or the Timothy Zahn novels, those aren't cannon and even at the time Lucas himself had little time for the EU. I mean, he totally ignored and rode roughshod over then-current EU continuity when he made the prequels. And even with SW films he didn't direct, like The Empire Strikes Back, Lucas wrote the storyline and was standing behind Irvine Kershner, making sure that everything was being done to his liking. That constitutes him "signing off" on the film, as far as I'm concerned. Lucas has publically stated that the events of TFA and TLJ are not at all what he had planned for the SW saga -- even likening what Disney did with his characters as like selling his baby to white slavers (and I'm quoting him here). That, to me, has to at least raise the question of whether or not we should consider the sequel trilogy as "real Star Wars" or not. I know this is really a debate for another thread, but Lucas wasn't happy with what happened with The Empire Strikes Back, which is why he pretty much 'co-directed' - or directed the director on - Return of the Jedi. Lucas thought The Empire Strikes Back was too slow and didn't have enough action. He tried to edit it to be faster and more exciting in tune with his vision, but it didn't work. Yeah, I did know that about the ESB, but still, it was Lucas's story, he was executive producer, an uncredited editor, and he was on set a lot during the shooting, putting in his tupence worth on directorial decisions.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 2, 2018 18:54:43 GMT -5
That seems a very arbitrary definition...who is to say that the original Marvel comics, or the Dark Horse comics, or the original Clone Wars TV series - all 'canon' when created - are not more in tune with what Lucas intended? Lucas gave his employees copies of Dark Empire as Christmas presents, and told Tom Veitch it was the closest thing he'd seen to his ideas for a sequel trilogy. In contrast, he wasn't fond of what Disney did with Episode VII. So which is more legitimate? I don't think you can say the current owners of the brand name take precedence over the artistic intentions of the creator. You and I are on the same page regarding the potential non-cannonicity of Disney Star Wars, aquagoat, but I can't agree that Dark Empire is every bit as legitimate as, say, The Force Awakens. To me, the fact that TFA and TLJ are movies -- with the yellow opening crawl, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hammil etc in it -- means they're much more cannon than a spin-off comic book. I know it's not fashionable anymore, but I still adhere to the old definition of SW cannonical hierarchy, which was published circa 1983 in the old SW fan club newsletter, Bantha Tracks. That is, that the movies trump everything -- they are absolute cannon. Then comes the novelisations of the movies...so, with anything in them that is contradicted by the movies, the movies still take precidence, but anything else in the novelisations is cannon. Then there's the radio dramatisations of the films -- so, anything in them that isn't contradicted by the novelisations or the films is also considered cannon. Lastly there's the novels, comics and things like the Star Wars Holiday Special, which are secondary cannon. So, for me, good as Dark Empire might be, it is definitely secondary cannon and less "official" than the recent films. SW is first and foremost a film series, not a comic book. That's just the way I see it. That's a very sensible way to look at it. For me, Dark Empire 'fits' after RotJ better than The Force Awakens does - so to me it's more of a piece with the original trilogy. But I can't argue that probably billions of people have seen The Force Awakens, whereas far, far less will have even heard of Dark Empire, and Star Wars is nothing if not a myth for the masses.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 3, 2018 11:53:02 GMT -5
Star Wars: Dark Empire # 3:'The Battle of Calamari'Writer: Tom Veitch Art: Cam Kennedy Letters: Tom Klein Cover art: Dave Dorman Plot: Lando Calrissian and the rebel fleet race to the planet of Mon Calamari to fight off an Imperial attack. Meanwhile, Leia is visited by the spirit of Luke, who has recently disappeared and crossed to the Dark Side. Despite Luke's plea, Leia is determined to find him, and together with Han Solo, Chewie and the droids, they go to rescue him. On the way, they meet some old friends of Han and a strange old woman who claims to see Leia's destiny...
The third issue opens with an enormous, eight-page battle that does the movies proud, as Lando and chums attempt to rescue the Calamari. Forget the widescreen comics that Bryan Hitch and co did in the late 90s - Cam Kennedy is doing widescreen right here (er...I mean back in 1991), creating images full of gigantic, cinematic action. The depth of field, perspective, and sense of motion is masterful - the explosions, for instance, seem to move in front of your eye. Combine that with great technical accuracy to the ships of the movies, add in Kennedy's new creations such as the World Devastators, and it's like looking at painted storyboards or (if you squint) freeze frames from a Star Wars movie that was never made. This is thrilling stuff. Lando's rebel Star Destroyer, Emancipator, leaves Hyperspace virtually right on top of three Imperial ones, blasting through them to lead his fleet down to Mon Calamari surface below. They arrive to the awe-inspiring sight of the World Devastators hovering up Calamari cities - which are then turned into hundreds of fully-robotic Tie Fighters, and spit back out into the battle! Then there's a truly chilling moment as one of the World Devastators rises from Calamari's surface, and heads straight towards Lando's Star Destroyer. There's nothing the crew can do except run to their escape pods as the entire Emancipator is shattered and sucked up. 'Things haven't been this bad for the alliance since Vader was alive!' shouts Lando. As dramatic as the battle is, the real impact comes from an line uttered by one of the Imperial officers during the battle - when he orders one of his men to, 'inform Supreme Commander Skywalker'. That's right - when we left Luke in the last issue, he had submitted to the Emperor and the Dark Side. Now we find he's not only joined the Empire - he's commanding it! Speaking of Luke, his only appearance in this issue comes in a strange, dream-like sequence with Leia. At first she sees a vision of Darth Vader, before it transforms into a brooding Luke, warning his sister not to interfere with his plans. 'Destiny has forced me to follow the path our father took...it was the only way to save everything from the power of the Dark Side!' he tells her. Luke's vision in The Empire Strikes Back; Leia's vision of Luke in Dark EmpireThis scene nicely mirrors the Degobah cave sequence in The Empire Strikes Back, showing how Luke has committed to the dark destiny it foretold. However, it's not clear why Luke would appear to Leia in the form of Vader. Equally, Leia asks, 'How can you save us by joining the Dark Side?' - something which no doubt left many readers scratching their heads. We'd find out before long though. Issue #3 sees Leia and Han come to the forefront of the Dark Empire story line. The conclusion of the previous issue - Han agreeing to help Leia search for Luke - is backtracked on and repeated, as Leia again has to convince her sceptical husband. Fortunately this time she knows Luke's location - unfortunately, he's deep in the Galactic Core, the Empire's home turf. Han plans to sneak in by using a ship that is licensed for the Deep Core, and being the shady wheeler-dealer he is, he knows just where to get such a ship. Thus we end up in the system of Nal Hutta, specifically the moon of Nar Shaddaa, described as 'an ungoverned, derelict world'. Even worse, as Leia well knows, 'it's crawling with Hutts and bounty hunters' - and given that she took out Jabba himself not so long ago, she's probably not going to get a warm reception. Again, writer Tom Veitch displays a perfect understanding of the pacing and style of the Star Wars movies - as soon as Han and Leia arrive on Nar Shaddaa, they are engaged in a life-and-death chase through the skyline as they are spotted by a group of bounty hunter ships. Cam Kennedy depicts an intriguing planet, heavily-mechanised and filled with imposing, industrial towers. Here we meet some of Han's old smuggler buddies - Mako, Shug Ninx and Salla, who turns out to be one of Han's ex-girlfriends. We also meet one of Dark Empire's most interesting new characters: Vima Da Boma, who claims to be a former Jedi who escaped Vader's purge. A shabby, wizened figure who conceals great wisdom, she is Leia's own Obi-Wan/Yoda; recognising Leia as a 'Daughter of the Force', and 'the spark that will rekindle the fire'. She even gives Leia a gift which turns out to be, of course, a lightsaber - before disappearing, as all good Jedi do. This was not the end of Vima though, she turned up again in Dark Empire II. Before creating Dark Empire, Veitch and Kennedy wanted to make a story about the Jedi before their extermination by Vader; presumably Vima was a character created for that. Inserting her in here is very effective, giving us further tantalising hints about what the Jedi Knights were like in their prime, and allows the story to explore both the post-RotJ and the pre-New Hope era at the same time. Just from her short appearance here, Vima has more mystique and drama to her than any of the Jedi that turned up in the Prequels, save Anakin himself. Vima pushing Leia towards her Jedi destiny also furthers what will become the essential through line of the story. It's summed up in another scene, when Mon Mothma tells General Rieekan, 'It is now clear to me that the future of the New Republic depends on the revival of the Jedi Knights...if Luke is lost to the Dark Side, the Alliance is finished.' Although the the focus of the drama so far is Luke falling to the Dark Side, the Emperor is playing a long game - luring the entire Skywalker dynasty into his clutches. Luke is bait for Leia, and with Leia...well, more on that later. Dark Empire expands the Star Wars story into the Skywalkers versus the Emperor, with the soul of Anakin just being the first round. This is one of the reasons why Dark Empire is such an effective sequel to the original movie trilogy, as it deepens and escalates what came before. With his cloning cycle ensuring he is effectively immortal, the Emperor can embody the same threat to every generation of the Skywalker family; he represents the Dark Side itself. So Star Wars becomes a story about a good family who are constantly threatened by corruption. There are a few minor negatives to this issue. While it's cool that Lando is now a committed rebel hero and leader, his role in Dark Empire so far is just the same as his role in Return of the Jedi; he's just basically 'a goodie'. He provides a point man on the front lines for the reader while Luke, Leia and Han are elsewhere, but it's a pity there's no real characterisation there. The World Devastators are again described as worse than the Death Star - something which doesn't really make a lot of sense, as they are small fry to a weapon that can destroy a planet in seconds. Leia is wearing the very 90's combo of baseball cap and parachute pants. And the title of this issue is a bit silly. Overall though, this is the best part so far. Amazing action - among the best battle scenes you'll find in any Star Wars comic - great new characters, Leia sets out on her own Hero's Journey...fantastic stuff. And it all wraps up with a nice cliffhanger - apparently a Mr Fett has turned up to see Han... Notable dialogue: ' I always get it right the second time' - Han, with a line that you can imagine the more self-depreciating version of The Force Awakens saying. Continuity issues: While the new Disney movies don't specifically deny Leia followed in Luke's Jedi footsteps when she was younger, and she displays her command of the Force in The Last Jedi, the two depictions don't really match up. Favourite panel: Again, you're spoilt for choice, but this panel puts you right into the action, as if you were sitting behind the Mon Calamari and looking up at the staggering battle unfolding above you. Rating: 5/5
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 3, 2018 21:25:05 GMT -5
I thought Lando was decent... it reminded me very much of ESB... he comes up with a great idea, it works for a bit, then he fails.. just like he thought he was 'helping' when he gave Han to Vader. There is alot of overstating things, both with the "World Devastators are worse than the Death Star' thing and the 'things are worse than ever' line, which is annoying. I mean, the World Devastators are pretty awesome.. they suck up your buildings and turn them into tie fighters to blow up more buildings... just be happy with that. Leia journey is pretty great... especially after the ridiculous scene with her flying back into the ship in the new movies, she HAD to have something like this happen .
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 4, 2018 12:22:50 GMT -5
There is alot of overstating things, both with the "World Devastators are worse than the Death Star' thing and the 'things are worse than ever' line, which is annoying. I mean, the World Devastators are pretty awesome.. they suck up your buildings and turn them into tie fighters to blow up more buildings... just be happy with that. It reminds me of some Doctor Who spin-offs, which introduce new monsters who are 'worse than the Daleks and the Cybermen' etc. It's a bit fan fiction-ish.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 4, 2018 12:45:20 GMT -5
Lando's characterization, or rather the lack there of, is one of the few flaws of the series for me. He's just so generic, and his addition to the story doesn't add anything other than a box checked off as a connection to the films. And although, as stated before, I don't like the devastators I thought the robotic tie fighters were great. That faceless, autonomous menace of the mechanical Ties really fit with the image of the Empire and are not only a fantastic evolution of what we saw in the original series but also, in hindsight, a great mirror for what we saw in the Prequels.
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