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Post by MDG on Jun 27, 2018 9:08:21 GMT -5
Alfred Pennyworth and Jarvis I smell crossover
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2018 9:21:43 GMT -5
Pogo might have fallen lower down on the fame list I guess along with Sheena. I wonder if Sgt. Rock is well known either anymore? To a certain extent, due to DC returning to the character every few years. He's probably the most important of the war comic features; though, personally, I think Enemy Ace was always the stronger feature. I've always thought Warner was missing the boat in the movie competition with Marvel, by not exploiting the depth of their non-superhero characters. Both Rock and Enemy Ace would make for great mainstream films, in the right hands. Bat Lash and Jonah Hex could be great (though Hex needs a liitle more time to get the stink off of it). Bat Lash would be perfect for a nice comedy adventure. By that token, you might point at the Blackhawks, though longevity is open for debate. They have hung around to keep the trademark alive; but, their profile hasn't been strong, since the 1950s (despite the excellent Mark Evanier and Dan Spiegle run).
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 27, 2018 9:59:06 GMT -5
I know there are no "rules" to this, but I don't consider non-powered individuals who are part of the Superhero Universes as part of this. (Fury, Alfred, etc...)
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Post by MDG on Jun 27, 2018 10:28:15 GMT -5
I know there are no "rules" to this, but I don't consider non-powered individuals who are part of the Superhero Universes as part of this. (Fury, Alfred, etc...) True, but for the Big Two, everyone--including war and western characters--get pulled into the superhero universe.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 27, 2018 11:02:19 GMT -5
Probably a pedantic answer since he really debuted after MAD became a magazine, but technically, Alfred E Neuman first appeared on the cover of MAD while it was still a comic (issue 21).
What about Underground characters such as Harvey Pekar (who I suppose started in real life and then moved to comics) or the creations of Robert Crumb?
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 27, 2018 11:51:04 GMT -5
Blackhawk(movie serials), Jonah Hex (he had a movie I thought was okay), and Alfred E. Neuman (was on a few vinyl records and in paperbacks) are good candidates I'd say. Although to be pedantic back, there was some silly run of the Blackhawk squad getting costumes and, not sure, but could be superpowers... Monsieur Machine and The Listener? I only know about any of that because of a Fred Hembeck cartoon though! I liked Enemy Ace a lot too, kind of the only war comic I had many of (Showcase and Star Spangled). Underground characters? Freak Brothers? Mr. Natural? Mickey Rat? I don't know, they seem kind of obscure even for the '60s-'70s. The artists are more well known both as real people and autobiographical cartoon versions though. Crumb in the New Yorker a lot and Pekar on Letterman, and both in movies about them. Did we forget Usagi Yojimbo? I remember he even had an action figure with the Mutant Turtle line, I'm assuming he may've been in the cartoons a few times.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 27, 2018 11:59:44 GMT -5
Alfred Pennyworth and Jarvis If either has ever had their own comic title I might go for it, although I think I do remember a short Alfred story on his own (in one of those giant Batman Familys?).
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Post by DubipR on Jun 27, 2018 12:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 27, 2018 12:20:47 GMT -5
How about the only character to start in underground comix and move to mainstream newspaper syndication: Zippy the Pinhead?
"Yow! Are we having fun yet?"
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Post by DubipR on Jun 27, 2018 12:36:50 GMT -5
How about the only character to start in underground comix and move to mainstream newspaper syndication: Zippy the Pinhead? "Yow! Are we having fun yet?" I was thinking of the undergrounds as well; Mr Natural, Fabulous Furry Freak Bros, Wonder Warthog....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 13:08:47 GMT -5
Alfred Pennyworth and Jarvis If either has ever had their own comic title I might go for it, although I think I do remember a short Alfred story on his own (in one of those giant Batman Familys?). To me, having both of them not having their comic book(s) -- is not the issue in my standpoint. To me, comic book characters can be anyone of thousands and thousands of them and most of them did not have their own comic books and having said that ... I felt that both Alfred and Jarvis qualify because of their great history and being associated with Batman and Iron Man. To me, what you are saying to me is irrelevant and I don't think a character has to have its own book to qualify this question that you've personally wants us to answer for. That's my own line of thinking and I do think outside the box sometimes ...
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 27, 2018 15:20:20 GMT -5
Would Judge Dredd count ?
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 27, 2018 15:20:39 GMT -5
Underground characters? Freak Brothers? Mr. Natural? Mickey Rat? I don't know, they seem kind of obscure even for the '60s-'70s. The artists are more well known both as real people and autobiographical cartoon versions though. Crumb in the New Yorker a lot and Pekar on Letterman, and both in movies about them. Did we forget Usagi Yojimbo? I remember he even had an action figure with the Mutant Turtle line, I'm assuming he may've been in the cartoons a few times. If we count Usagi can we count the Turtles? They've got more cultural penetration now than Richie Rich ever did. Howard the Duck? Freak Brothers were a huge deal among the stoner/head shop culture in the '70s... I've heard FFFB was the best selling comic of the '70s. (Because it was kept in print!) I've met a lot of not-comics people who know who the Freak Bros. are. Agreed on Crumb as more important than his characters. Although I guess Fritz the Cat had a movie (That I never saw.)
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Post by comicsandwho on Jun 27, 2018 15:46:56 GMT -5
Alfred Pennyworth and Jarvis If either has ever had their own comic title I might go for it, although I think I do remember a short Alfred story on his own (in one of those giant Batman Familys?). Yeah, there were a few Alfred stories during the Golden Age, and one or two others in 'Batman Family' during the '70s(used to have a digest that reprinted one of those, as he was trying to foil a burglary at Wayne Manor). As for my favorite 'non-super' characters...if we're talking about those with their own series, I'd go with Jonah Hex and Sgt. Rock. If we're just talking about prominent supporting characters..well, throw Alfred in with Commissioner Gordon. But Lois Lane almost needs a special classification, in that they've saved Superman more often that Batman's non-Boy Wonder pals bailed him out! And finally, a nod to Joe Robertson, balancing the 'crazy' in the Daily Bugle offices with a firm but friendly, no-nonsense attitude that really got the paper printed.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 27, 2018 15:56:59 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lois Lane. Jimmy Olsen. And Perry White be the 3 MOST known known. non-super characters of all. Then Tintin and Asterix.
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