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Post by rberman on Jun 28, 2018 13:41:37 GMT -5
My point is: why can't a comic be a great comic and that's enough? Nobody says Waiting for Godot or A Confederacy of Dunces hasn't "made it" because they haven't been made into a move (or a comic). The question here is posed as "characters," but is Suicide Squad or Ant-Man "greater" than a work like American Flagg or Black Hole or the USS Stevens saga or A Contract with God? Nothing wrong with that question; it's just not the way the question was phrased in this particular thread. There are also sorts of questions that we can have fun discussing: What non-super comic book character has proven to have staying power in popular media beyond comic books? What comic book character provides the most profound insight into human nature? What comic book saga provides the most entertainment value? Which comic book author has made you a better person in some sense? And so on. Having a thread about the first question (which is what this thread seems to be) still leaves those other questions as valid topics for future discussion. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 28, 2018 13:51:58 GMT -5
My point is: why can't a comic be a great comic and that's enough? Nobody says Waiting for Godot or A Confederacy of Dunces hasn't "made it" because they haven't been made into a move (or a comic). The question here is posed as "characters," but is Suicide Squad or Ant-Man "greater" than a work like American Flagg or Black Hole or the USS Stevens saga or A Contract with God? No, and more people knowing of a character doesn't make it more important. A non-super comic hall-of-fame can enshrine all kinds of achievement. It is still an achievement if a lot of people outside of comics know of the character though. That comics give birth to creations with 'legs', maybe even more of an achievement if they are well known and mainly for comics though, as I assume most people think Archie they think of the comics first, and Sgt. Rock perhaps too. In Holland there is Suske & Wiske and in Belgium The Smurfs/Schtroumpfs, very famous, started in comics and I think thought foremost as being in comics. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 13:56:38 GMT -5
Two more that I haven't seen mentioned but would likely get HoF nods for non-super-heroes...
Elfquest by Wendy & Richard Pini
Cerebus by Dave Sim
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Post by brutalis on Jun 29, 2018 7:37:11 GMT -5
Tarzan, Mandrake the Magician, The Phantom, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, Prince Valiant, Grimjack, The Badger, Travis Morgan the Warlord, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Batman (his super power is being rich), Robin, Nightwing, Speedy(Arsenal/Red Arrow), Ben Casey, Modesty Blaise, Rip Kirby, Dick Tracy, Shang Chi, Steve Canyon, Terry Lee of Terry and the Pirates, Johnny Hazard, and the list goes on......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 15:15:50 GMT -5
Tarzan, Mandrake the Magician, The Phantom, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, Prince Valiant, Grimjack, The Badger, Travis Morgan the Warlord, Green Arrow, Hawkeye, Batman (his super power is being rich), Robin, Nightwing, Speedy(Arsenal/Red Arrow), Ben Casey, Modesty Blaise, Rip Kirby, Dick Tracy, Shang Chi, Steve Canyon, Terry Lee of Terry and the Pirates, Johnny Hazard, and the list goes on...... Many of those started in comic strips, not comic books, and so were excluded from consideration by the OP. And costumed heroes without powers are still super-heroes in the perception of most folks, so wouldn't qualify either. -M |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 1, 2018 7:06:30 GMT -5
Tintin....animation, movies, and books that have millions of copies in print worldwide...  Yeah, Tintin gets my vote too. Herge's Tintin books are just fantastically good comics. The boy reporter pre-dates comic Superheroes as we know them anyway, having debuted in the pages of Le Vingtième Siècle in 1929, some 9 years before Action Comics #1. Jonah Hex. Cei-U! I summon the gritty gunslinger! ...and this would be my #2 choice. Love me some Jonah Hex. |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 1, 2018 7:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by comicsandwho on Jul 1, 2018 12:08:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know why so many think Tintin is a relative of RIN Tin Tin... Tintin, Asterix, and Jonah Hex...a crossover that needs to happen.... |
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Post by rossn on Jul 5, 2018 11:48:00 GMT -5
 I'm not the first to say it but Tintin of course! Honourable mention:  |
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Post by Søren on Jul 5, 2018 11:57:43 GMT -5
I always loved Moomin. Learned of it from the 90s tv shows and books but was a comic first. Its the humour I like, its weird, got typical Scandinavian dark humour doesn't pretend life isn't scarey and bad at times but shows the fun and beauty in it too. They had a few new films recently and there is a theme park in Finland so for sure popularity hasn't faded. I got a large plush Moomin staring at me from my bed now     Some quotes: it would be awful if the world exploded it is so wonderfully splendid -Snufkin “I only want to live in peace, plant potatoes and dream!” – Moomintroll “All things are so very uncertain, and that's exactly what makes me feel reassured.” – Too-Ticky “I knew nothing, but I believed a lot.” – Moominpappa “You must go on a long journey before you can really find out how wonderful home is.” – Snufkin |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 5, 2018 12:03:52 GMT -5
I had only recently in the last year or so learned about Moomin.
Haven't read any, and didn't know it was a show, but am looking forward to trying it later.
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Post by Søren on Jul 5, 2018 12:15:44 GMT -5
I had only recently in the last year or so learned about Moomin. Haven't read any, and didn't know it was a show, but am looking forward to trying it later. You can get the reprinted comics in book form, I would recommend some of the stories too even if they are for kids just as the little illustrations are so nice. The animated tv show is on dvd too...not sure about the stop-motion version. this is what I woke up watching most morning before school (: such catchy theme tune lol  |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 5, 2018 12:19:16 GMT -5
Thanks for that Soren !
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Post by cellardweller on Jul 5, 2018 21:30:46 GMT -5
Hmm, not a big fan myself, but Rick Grimes and the characters from the Walking Dead might be the current most well known non-super-hero characters originating in comics in mass pop culture. -M I just saw this thread, and was about to post the same thing. Rick & Carl Grimes, Maggie Greene, Glenn Rhee, Carol Peletier, Negan, Michonne. Started in comics, now on TV, action figures, numerous board games (Walking Dead game, plus versions of Trivial Pursuit, Yahtzee, Monopoly and Clue). Just search "Walking Dead cosplay" and you'll find tons of people dressed as the characters. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 6, 2018 9:11:21 GMT -5
If Shang-Chi counts (he doesn't really have a costume) then I'd nominate him.
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