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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 9, 2018 19:32:31 GMT -5
I was thinking of asking if there was ever an all female team, then I remembered seeing Fem Force. Never had one I don't think but I did have one issue of a Phantom Lady type character Nightveil they published and it had Fem Force ads. Any others? I can't think of any. Wonder how a League Of All Manly Men would go over, so it's a bit of a silly question really. Birds of Prey wasn’t there an all-female X-team recently? You're thinking of A-Force and I'd hardly call them mutant centric, though your mileage may vary. It did at least bring Dazzler back into the limelight, so that's a plus
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Post by Cheswick on Jul 9, 2018 19:54:43 GMT -5
Birds of Prey wasn’t there an all-female X-team recently? You're thinking of A-Force and I'd hardly call them mutant centric, though your mileage may vary. It did at least bring Dazzler back into the limelight, so that's a plus I think he was referring to the roster during Brian Wood's run on X-Men from about 5 years ago. It was an all-female team (Storm , Kitty, Psylocke, Rachel, Jubilee, M and, initially, Rogue).
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Post by rberman on Jul 9, 2018 20:56:44 GMT -5
You're thinking of A-Force and I'd hardly call them mutant centric, though your mileage may vary. It did at least bring Dazzler back into the limelight, so that's a plus I think he was referring to the roster during Brian Wood's run on X-Men from about 5 years ago. It was an all-female team (Storm , Kitty, Psylocke, Rachel, Jubilee, M and, initially, Rogue). Yeah, that was it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2018 21:25:11 GMT -5
There was the all-female Avengers team of the Liberators, in a "women's lib" storyline; but, it wasn't sustained.
Femforce is an all-female team; but, through a very male lens. Bill Black definitely wasn't aiming that at a female audience.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 9, 2018 21:37:20 GMT -5
I was a huge NW fan when it was coming out.. it really managed to capture the 'family' vibe of the Wolfman/Perez Titans, but with deeper, more humanized characters. I really wish Marvel would let characters age and develop, because there was some really cool stuff going on there. I think that the big two HAS allowed their characters to age. Not the adult characters but most of the Teen Titans are adults and the Marvel kids have grown up , for the most part. That's true... alot of the kid and teen characters have 'caught up' the the adults, but Marvel seems to not be able to decide about the Warriors... sometimes they see ready to let them grow up and develop (Justice and Firestar's marriage, for instance), then they change they mind and go back (having Firestar later be a college student again).
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 9, 2018 21:39:50 GMT -5
I was thinking of asking if there was ever an all female team, then I remembered seeing Fem Force. Never had one I don't think but I did have one issue of a Phantom Lady type character Nightveil they published and it had Fem Force ads. Any others? I can't think of any. Wonder how a League Of All Manly Men would go over, so it's a bit of a silly question really. A million years ago, a frequent letter col writer named Bob Rodi (now an author) floated his idea to team Hawkgirl, Batgirl, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, and a couple of other female heroes as the Amazon Brigade. (Maybe it was in a JLA letters page?)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 21:50:19 GMT -5
Loved team comics in my younger years. Now not so much.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2018 22:18:32 GMT -5
I've enjoyed some teams; but, it depends greatly on the storytellers. I loved the JLA, as a kid, especially the fact that they called each other by their real first names, in private. They were colleagues and friends. In the best FF stories, they are a family and some of the best stories have the playful bickering of Ben and Johnny. It always worked better, for me, when it seemed like they were just poking fun at each other, rather than deliberately trying to hurt each other, physically or emotionally.
The Avengers depended greatly on the line-up and creators. I liked the Engelhart run, as Beast brought more of a sense of fun, while george Perez added the visual dynamics. Also, there were a lot of good foes in the Perez era, from Englehart to Shooter. The Byrne run, with Wundagore and all, was also quite good.
I've always enjoyed the Defenders, as they were kind of the lovable misfits of the MU, especially in the hands of Gerber and those that followed, like David Anthony Kraft and Jm DeMatteis.
New Teen Titans was also like a family, mixed with a group of close friends.
X-Men is one that enjoyed at different stages; but, less so when they became the focus of Marvel editorial. I liked it better when their adventures were kept more on the smaller scale and more in their own realm, with the occasional bigger story.
New Warriors I pretty much ignored. I looked at the first issue and it didn't grab me and I snorted at a skateboard-riding vigilante. I never read their adventures after; but, then again, I was reading very little Marvel in that era.
The Invaders and the All-Star Squadron were great favorites, due to the use of wartime history, as well as the pulpier Golden Age villains.
Outside of the Big Two, I was a sucker for the THUNDER Agents, as a concept, the Mighty Crusaders, in principle, though neither was as great in the execution. The Hero Alliance was an interesting one, for character interplay and a team beyond the fights and the Justice Machine was an interesting sci-fi/dystopian twist on the JLA and Avengers. It lacked in execution, as well. DNAgents was a satisfying book, with characters really finding their way. It takes the Teen Titan concept into more adolescent angst territory. Elementals was much the same way, though a bit more action-oriented.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 9, 2018 22:19:47 GMT -5
There was the all-female Avengers team of the Liberators, in a "women's lib" storyline; but, it wasn't sustained Did any of them have 60's style Rowen & Martin Laugh-In Psychedelic Pasties or is that too far out of the realm of sheer farscile improbability?
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 9, 2018 22:27:31 GMT -5
New Warriors I pretty much ignored. I looked at the first issue and it didn't grab me and I snorted at a skateboard-riding vigilante. I never read their adventures after; but, then again, I was reading very little Marvel in that era. I've heard that Night Thrasher was created by Christopher Priest as a joke when the upper management wanted "hip new heroes for the 90's" The Invaders and the All-Star Squadron were great favorites, due to the use of wartime history, as well as the pulpier Golden Age villains. Same, Cap always spurred on me a love and keen interest in older heroes. I was lucky to get some random issues of Invaders in my Mycomicshop Captain America grab-bag that I got for my birthday Outside of the Big Two, I was a sucker for the THUNDER Agents, as a concept, the Mighty Crusaders, in principle, though neither was as great in the execution. The Hero Alliance was an interesting one, for character interplay and a team beyond the fights and the Justice Machine was an interesting sci-fi/dystopian twist on the JLA and Avengers. It lacked in execution, as well. DNAgents was a satisfying book, with characters really finding their way. It takes the Teen Titan concept into more adolescent angst territory. Elementals was much the same way, though a bit more action-oriented. I liked the silver age Mighty Crusaders because they just came off as a total pot-shot towards both Marvel and DC, shame that they didn't stick around longer, but that's Archie for you. If it isn't some dopey teen perpetually stuck in the 50's or a Blue Hedgehog, it won't sell Found both DNA Agents and the Elementals to be interesting conceptually, but not in execution. Comico later had the Elementals go far off into the deep end into the "adult comic book market", that's all I'll say. It's about as abhorrent and tasteless as it sounds
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 22:32:23 GMT -5
There was the all-female Avengers team of the Liberators, in a "women's lib" storyline; but, it wasn't sustained Did any of them have 60's style Rowen & Martin Laugh-In Psychedelic Pasties or is that too far out of the realm of sheer farscile improbability? Avengers #83 I've think your are thinking about Valkyrie who was the leader of the Lady Liberators who had a familiar R&ML-IPP that you are thinking about here. This is the best answer that I can give you ... picture worth a thousand words. Introductory Issue in Avengers 83.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 9, 2018 22:43:11 GMT -5
New Warriors I pretty much ignored. I looked at the first issue and it didn't grab me and I snorted at a skateboard-riding vigilante. I never read their adventures after; but, then again, I was reading very little Marvel in that era. I've heard that Night Thrasher was created by Christopher Priest as a joke when the upper management wanted "hip new heroes for the 90's" The Invaders and the All-Star Squadron were great favorites, due to the use of wartime history, as well as the pulpier Golden Age villains. Same, Cap always spurred on me a love and keen interest in older heroes. I was lucky to get some random issues of Invaders in my Mycomicshop Captain America grab-bag that I got for my birthday Outside of the Big Two, I was a sucker for the THUNDER Agents, as a concept, the Mighty Crusaders, in principle, though neither was as great in the execution. The Hero Alliance was an interesting one, for character interplay and a team beyond the fights and the Justice Machine was an interesting sci-fi/dystopian twist on the JLA and Avengers. It lacked in execution, as well. DNAgents was a satisfying book, with characters really finding their way. It takes the Teen Titan concept into more adolescent angst territory. Elementals was much the same way, though a bit more action-oriented. I liked the silver age Mighty Crusaders because they just came off as a total pot-shot towards both Marvel and DC, shame that they didn't stick around longer, but that's Archie for you. If it isn't some dopey teen perpetually stuck in the 50's or a Blue Hedgehog, it won't sell Found both DNA Agents and the Elementals to be interesting conceptually, but not in execution. Comico later had the Elementals go far off into the deep end into the "adult comic book market", that's all I'll say. It's about as abhorrent and tasteless as it sounds I only count the Elementals in the hands of Bill Willingham. Anything from the Andrew Rev era of Comico is Bizarro World Comico.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 9, 2018 23:00:57 GMT -5
Thanks! I did see that when looking into newer comics I've missed, but I wasn't completely sure if they were all women or if the team was more of a bird themed situation.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 9, 2018 23:06:42 GMT -5
Avengers #83 That's a lot like the Adventure Comics Legion stories where the girls revolt! And once it was the super-pets revolting! The things they will put on covers to get those dimes! We're so glad that John Lennon came along just about then to end all war, even of the sexes!
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 9, 2018 23:08:11 GMT -5
Did any of them have 60's style Rowen & Martin Laugh-In Psychedelic Pasties or is that too far out of the realm of sheer farscile improbability? Avengers #83 I've think your are thinking about Valkyrie who was the leader of the Lady Liberators who had a familiar R&ML-IPP that you are thinking about here. This is the best answer that I can give you ... picture worth a thousand words. Introductory Issue in Avengers 83. Surely a lady spy who relies more on her looks, a woman with an eternal bad hair day, and a woman possessed by a norse goddess can take on the world. Surely! I'm more curious as to what Roy or whomever penned this issue was thinking. Because it wasn't bringing a pivotal social agenda to the forefront, that's for sure....
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