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Post by Cheswick on Jul 10, 2018 0:33:53 GMT -5
Thanks! I did see that when looking into newer comics I've missed, but I wasn't completely sure if they were all women or if the team was more of a bird themed situation. Gail Simone's Birds of Prey run is really good. It ran from #56-109 and the lineup featured Oracle (Barbara Gordon), Black Canary and Huntress at first, with other women characters being brought in later. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 10, 2018 5:06:01 GMT -5
Surely a lady spy who relies more on her looks, a woman with an eternal bad hair day, and a woman possessed by a norse goddess can take on the world. Surely! I'm more curious as to what Roy or whomever penned this issue was thinking. Because it wasn't bringing a pivotal social agenda to the forefront, that's for sure....
That issue happened to be a great story by Thomas and Buscema that introduced the Valkrie to the Marvel universe with an old school villain behind it all. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 10, 2018 5:07:30 GMT -5
Thanks! I did see that when looking into newer comics I've missed, but I wasn't completely sure if they were all women or if the team was more of a bird themed situation. Gail Simone's Birds of Prey run is really good. It ran from #56-109 and the lineup featured Oracle (Barbara Gordon), Black Canary and Huntress at first, with other women characters being brought in later. I have the entire 127 issue run, and for the most part, it was excellent with the best artists around doing the pencils. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 10, 2018 5:23:27 GMT -5
This book was part of a mini series where the JL are robbed of their memories by a new villain and they all form their own teams instinctively knowing that there should be a JL of some sort.  Nice Perez covers but the insides were by various artists . It was a 8 issue series I believe. |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 10, 2018 5:56:32 GMT -5
I'm more curious as to what Roy or whomever penned this issue was thinking. Because it wasn't bringing a pivotal social agenda to the forefront, that's for sure....But that's the thing, it was bringing the Women' Lib movement to the forefront of mainstream comics for the 8 to 14-year-old male audience that predominantly consumed them. Women's Lib was a hot button topic in the early 70s, and Marvel had always been a pretty progressive comic book company. So, naturally they felt that they should strive to address and incorporate the movement into their comics, just as they had done with other high-profile issues of the day. And just like their earlier forays into civil rights commentary, Marvel were able to make a powerful point about feminism in a quite subversive way to their predominantly male audience. That's not something to be sniffed at or ridiculed. This was not an over-intellectualised treatise on female oppression; this was a fun superhero comic, in which Roy Thomas put forward some important points about equality of the sexes, in a way that the target audience would be able to absorb. You were maybe expecting Germain Greer or Anne Koedt? |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 10, 2018 10:30:08 GMT -5
Surely a lady spy who relies more on her looks, a woman with an eternal bad hair day, and a woman possessed by a norse goddess can take on the world. Surely! I'm more curious as to what Roy or whomever penned this issue was thinking. Because it wasn't bringing a pivotal social agenda to the forefront, that's for sure....
That issue happened to be a great story by Thomas and Buscema that introduced the Valkrie to the Marvel universe with an old school villain behind it all. Trust me, I have a deep fondness for Roy and all the boys at Marvel during it's heyday. If it did actually bring some important social issues to the forefront, that's fine. It's just a lot of times Marvel doesn't really know how to handle emotional situations like romance and when they do, they come off like something a socially awkward 14 year old would pen for a writing.com fan fiction story Roy has never steered me wrong and neither has Shooter |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 10, 2018 13:30:49 GMT -5
This was not an over-intellectualised treatise on female oppression; this was a fun superhero comic, in which Roy Thomas put forward some important points about equality of the sexes, in a way that the target audience would be able to absorb. You were maybe expecting Germain Greer or Anne Koedt? Funny, I can totally agree whit what you're saying here! I was thinking you were more about how it could actually be Greer or Steinem or whoever. Well, we'll figure it out. I actually talked to Denny O'Neil once specifically about Green Lantern/Green Arrow stories with drug-abuse and other starkly real social issue content. I'm going to be really short on time for the next few days though.  |
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Post by brutalis on Jul 10, 2018 17:13:37 GMT -5
I always liked the Challengers of the Unknown and Blackhawk and Sea Devils. Growing up though they were hard to find. Only ever had a couple of issues of each thanks to my Uncle's barbershop. He passed them along to me once they were well read. Those few issues captivated me greatly. So thankful when DC did the Showcase Presents reprinting these teams. If only DC would reprint the early Blackhawk war stuff then I could be a real happy camper! Would even appreciate the Evanier/Spiegle "Hawks being collected.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 10, 2018 17:29:51 GMT -5
I always liked the Challengers of the Unknown and Blackhawk and Sea Devils. Growing up though they were hard to find. Only ever had a couple of issues of each thanks to my Uncle's barbershop. He passed them along to me once they were well read. Those few issues captivated me greatly. So thankful when DC did the Showcase Presents reprinting these teams. If only DC would reprint the early Blackhawk war stuff then I could be a real happy camper! Would even appreciate the Evanier/Spiegle "Hawks being collected. Showcase is something the world needs more of, same with Millennium Editions. Those books, though little more than just reprints, were my consumate bible(s) growing up |
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Post by String on Jul 10, 2018 20:20:40 GMT -5
New Warriors I pretty much ignored. I looked at the first issue and it didn't grab me and I snorted at a skateboard-riding vigilante. I never read their adventures after; but, then again, I was reading very little Marvel in that era. I've heard that Night Thrasher was created by Christopher Priest as a joke when the upper management wanted "hip new heroes for the 90's" Hm, well, whether accurate or not, I seem to remember Thrasher being one of the best characters under Nicieza. Then again, I was late to this party back then when a friend encouraged me to try out New Warriors. This was around the four-part story where Thrasher really began his search for answers about his past.  Didn't Thrasher get his own min-series too? New Teen Titans is a seminal favorite but I also enjoyed Johns & McKone's Teen Titans relaunch with Tim, Conner, Cassie and Bart.  Exiles under Winick and McKone (again) was another good team book, great character dynamics and an interesting set-up to switch out members when (and if) needed  |
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Post by Farrar on Jul 10, 2018 20:44:28 GMT -5
I was thinking of asking if there was ever an all female team, then I remembered seeing Fem Force. Never had one I don't think but I did have one issue of a Phantom Lady type character Nightveil they published and it had Fem Force ads. Any others? I can't think of any. Wonder how a League Of All Manly Men would go over, so it's a bit of a silly question really.  A million years ago, a frequent letter col writer named Bob Rodi (now an author) floated his idea to team Hawkgirl, Batgirl, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, and a couple of other female heroes as the Amazon Brigade. (Maybe it was in a JLA letters page?) I recall a letter about that back in Justice League of America #58 (1967), but it was by frequent letter writer Leonard Rosenberg  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 11, 2018 17:11:26 GMT -5
Avengers #83  That's a lot like the Adventure Comics Legion stories where the girls revolt! And once it was the super-pets revolting! The things they will put on covers to get those dimes! We're so glad that John Lennon came along just about then to end all war, even of the sexes!  Ha! I was just gonna ask someone to post the splash for that story, a classic for the ages, nearly equal to the Super Moby Dick of Space. I also quite liked Birds of Prey (although Gail Simone is in my "Her creator owned work is leagues better than her corporate work" category.) I dug the all woman X-Men as well. Edit: There was an all female Avengers team "A-Force" with Medusa, MsCaptain Marvel, Nico Minouri, She-Hulk etc. written by my old blogmate Kelly Thompson. Dunno if it's cancelled, though. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 11, 2018 17:41:04 GMT -5
That's a lot like the Adventure Comics Legion stories where the girls revolt! And once it was the super-pets revolting! The things they will put on covers to get those dimes! We're so glad that John Lennon came along just about then to end all war, even of the sexes!
I also quite liked Birds of Prey (although Gail Simone is in my "Her creator owned work is leagues better than her corporate work" category.) I dug the all woman X-Men as well. Edit: There was an all female Avengers team "A-Force" with Medusa, MsCaptain Marvel, Nico Minouri, She-Hulk etc. written by my old blogmate Kelly Thompson. Dunno if it's cancelled, though. You mean this ?  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 11, 2018 23:53:40 GMT -5
Nah, the Legion one. I don't think the cover was anything special but the intro page was money.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 12, 2018 7:45:30 GMT -5
From Marvel there was the spectacular updating to being more historically accurate teaming of the Mighty Marvel Western gunfighters in 2 mini-series from John Ostrander with Leonardo Manco artwork. Blaze of Glory: The Last Ride of the Western Heroes and Apache Skies. Taking the silliness out of those young heroes and creating a more traditional shoot em up for Rawhide Kid, Kid Colt and Two-Gun Kid being the main stars. This grittier, dirty and sweat filled Spaghetti Western style comic from Manco and Ostrander was a big hit at the time and I loved it. Wish there had been more done with it than just these 2 mini's.
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