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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 8, 2024 10:57:13 GMT -5
Work place romances have been around since the Stone Age, even if they are discouraged. At the least it’s bad judgement, at most, he’s in big trouble. Ex head coach of the New England Patriots is 72 and he’s dating a 27 year old. Who are we to rush to a decision?
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Post by Confessor on Jul 8, 2024 13:20:10 GMT -5
Can you be consenting when you are in a subordinate position within the workplace? The woman was Gaiman's employee and he had authority over her. He was also nearly 40 years her senior, which adds a further level of authority. Well, that's the big question, isn't it? And especially as it was her very first day at work. My feeling is that, yes, it is potentially possible for a 61 year old man and a 22 year old woman to fall in love at work and have a consensual relationship in theory... BUT, the older boss would have to tread pretty carefully not to abuse his position of power. It doesn't look good that Gaiman was at it on this girl's very first day. That definitely does not smack of a perfectly consensual affair IMHO. |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 8, 2024 13:22:15 GMT -5
Work place romances have been around since the Stone Age, even if they are discouraged. At the least it’s bad judgement, at most, he’s in big trouble. Ex head coach of the New England Patriots is 72 and he’s dating a 27 year old. Who are we to rush to a decision? Nobody is rushing to a decision though. We're just speculating on the news article and, in particular, Gaiman's own comments on the sexual abuse allegations. I personally think those comments sound really dodgy and pretty creepy. |
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Post by tonebone on Jul 8, 2024 14:31:30 GMT -5
...and all the rest of us are pure as the driven snow.
I think not.
Good Grief. Let the public opinion dog-piling begin... without knowing the specifics of the cases.
Please note that this is not aimed specifically at commond , Roquefort Raider or codystarbuck -- you are all entitled to your personal opinions, like anyone else. My gripe is primarily about the ensuing social media wildfires that surround such events-- often with clear intent to target or damage someone prior letting the legal process play out. We've seen it happen over and over in the last 10-15 years, and it's flat out ridiculous. I'm not here to defend Gaiman or anybody else, but let anyone here who is directly connected to the situation and knows the intimate details of the formal charges (if any have been made), including the specific legal filings, please raise their hand and their legal opinion will be validated. If you're going to take a posturing opinion based on speculation of the limited details, which may or may not include hearsay, I suppose that's your prerogative, but it really doesn't offer the moral high horse you might think. I'm sick of lynch mobs in the public discourse which devolves into character assassination based on supposed moral high ground of the mob. Anybody can file complaints or charges against anyone, including people who are incredibly quick to judge based on one "news" story. Rightly or wrongly accused, the man still deserves his day in court. Let it happen before you immediately cast him to the 9th level of Hell.
It probably doesn't make any difference, but I've never been a Gaiman fan at all... however, that doesn't mean I want him to burn based on a situation that may or may not be credible. In this situation, if Gaiman is found liable in a civil case, then the legal system will handle it accordingly. Likewise if he is found guilty in a criminal case.
Sorry, for the rant, but if any of YOU were accused in such a scenario, I wouldn't immediately "unfriend" you... I'd let the legal process take its course long before I would decide to get up on my personal judge's bench and morally sentence you based on something you may have done.
There are no living saints... can we please quit pretending that people who's work we may admire are in some way infallible? -- everyone has a skeleton in their closet.
Who is going to be the first to condemn the works of Martin Luther King Jr. in their entirety simply because it was known that he had multiple extra-marital relationships? Certainly not me. The lens of public condemnation is tinted only by what we know, not by what we don't know.
Sounds good. Although... he has taken a "Believe all women" stance in the past, in light of OTHER people's sexual assault allegations. So I guess we should judge him by the virtues he, himself, signaled. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jul 9, 2024 10:31:23 GMT -5
If the description of his “courtship “of these women is accurate, may be within the bounds of law, and conceivably ethics, but certainly in poor taste. I can’t imagine addressing someone this way, especially a woman, half my age who is working for me.
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Post by tonebone on Jul 12, 2024 8:45:31 GMT -5
I stumbled across this fabric while looking for something else at my local Michaels store. Sorry for the jpeg compression... byproduct of the image uploader.  |
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Post by kirby101 on Jul 12, 2024 9:28:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's Jose LG Lopez.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 12, 2024 9:53:46 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's Jose LG Lopez. It absolutely is. |
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Post by tonebone on Jul 12, 2024 16:16:28 GMT -5
Pretty sure that's Jose LG Lopez. It absolutely is. Edited, tho... I think. In the classic 80's licensing style guide, Supergirl has the 70's puffy shirt or the 80s headband costume throughout... The one on the fabric looks more modern.   |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 12, 2024 18:41:11 GMT -5
Speaking of, DC's releasing the original style guide sometime in August
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 12, 2024 20:30:18 GMT -5
It's hilarious how much time and effort DC put into redesigning the costumes and the merchandise mostly feature the JLGL (PBHN) designs, from the style guide.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 14, 2024 12:55:51 GMT -5
Apparently Wally Wood submitted samples and worked his butt off to get the Prince Valiant strip when Hal Foster was retiring. One has to wonder if he could have kept up with the grind. But, damn, that would have been gorgeous work.
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Post by jason on Jul 14, 2024 14:06:05 GMT -5
It's hilarious how much time and effort DC put into redesigning the costumes and the merchandise mostly feature the JLGL (PBHN) designs, from the style guide. Same goes for Marvel to be fair. Not all the time, but I've seen lots of current merchandise that uses the Kirby/Romita era designs for the characters (unless it's a character who debuted later). |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 14, 2024 17:27:47 GMT -5
It's hilarious how much time and effort DC put into redesigning the costumes and the merchandise mostly feature the JLGL (PBHN) designs, from the style guide. Same goes for Marvel to be fair. Not all the time, but I've seen lots of current merchandise that uses the Kirby/Romita era designs for the characters (unless it's a character who debuted later). I've kind of been seeing some Captain America shirt artwork lately that seems to resemble Paul Neary I think (he took over for Zeck after her went off to do Secret Wars).  |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jul 15, 2024 1:50:52 GMT -5
That looks more like Gene Colan to me.
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