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Post by MDG on Nov 10, 2022 16:45:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 16:08:53 GMT -5
Today would have been the late, great Darwyn Cooke's 60th birthday. Gone way too soon. memorial portrait by Francavilla -M
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 22:52:57 GMT -5
This speech came up in a conversation I had with another comic fan today about how to reach new readers and the value of comics in and of themselves vs. comics as grist for adaptation in other mediums. It was eye opening when I heard it in 2017 when David Petersen gave it, and after mentioning it to them, I went back and found it on youtube again to listen to with fresh years, and it is still insightful and important 5 years later. Thius is David Petersen's (creator of Mouse Guard) Keynote speech at the 2017 Ringo Awards...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 13:08:13 GMT -5
This was shared by Ron Frenz via his Facebook page: A reminder to me that Supes’ rogues gallery is a lot more comprehensive than I often think (I am quite the fan of Bats’ rogues gallery).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 9:08:08 GMT -5
From the latest 2000 AD, concerning the late Kevin O’Neill, focus on the second paragraph: Were publishers not doing credits as a form of protectionism? It does make me think.
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Post by MWGallaher on Nov 23, 2022 5:42:27 GMT -5
Forgotten heroes of the forties: The Stars and Stripes Strip For Action Gang! Source: STARS AND STRIPES #6, December 1941, Centaur, by Myron Strauss
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Post by foxley on Nov 23, 2022 6:49:37 GMT -5
Forgotten heroes of the forties: The Stars and Stripes Strip For Action Gang! Source: STARS AND STRIPES #6, December 1941, Centaur, by Myron StraussAnd this why punctuation matters, kids.
Now I have to go and help my friend, Jack, off a horse.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 24, 2022 13:47:48 GMT -5
Saw on Facebook. Worth thinking about. Who really revamped the Marvel line? Goodman and Lee, or Kirby and Ditko? Facebook.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:16:40 GMT -5
Saw this quote from a comic creator recently:
I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean.
Particularly struggling with “an inaccessible parallel where the characters were found”.
I don’t see what the ‘vital thing that was lost is’ because the term Marvel Universe was created. Absolutely struggling with that one.
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Post by jason on Nov 24, 2022 20:32:54 GMT -5
The creator seems to be saying that previously, one could imagine that the stories happening in the books, despite the fantastical elements, were happening in your world, while once the Marvel Universe was created, it was its own world that could only exist in the world of the comics. I can kind of see what was being said, but considering that they werent using many real world people/things even back then (instead of using the New York Times or New York Post, they had the fictional Daily Bugle for example), the whole "this is happening in your world" thought was kind of absurd.
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Post by tarkintino on Nov 24, 2022 21:14:54 GMT -5
The creator seems to be saying that previously, one could imagine that the stories happening in the books, despite the fantastical elements, were happening in your world, while once the Marvel Universe was created, it was its own world that could only exist in the world of the comics. I can kind of see what was being said, but considering that they werent using many real world people/things even back then (instead of using the New York Times or New York Post, they had the fictional Daily Bugle for example), the whole "this is happening in your world" thought was kind of absurd. In the 60s, it was a mix of the fictional and real, since Marvel comics often used real world references, landmarks or real locations (note the covers of Daredevil #45 or Sub-Mariner #7, both from '68), and since those Silver Age stories & images were a part of the same world as that after "Marvel Universe" was coined, I did not see it as a separate universe.
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Post by Chris on Nov 25, 2022 1:16:59 GMT -5
Forgotten heroes of the forties: The Stars and Stripes Strip For Action Gang! Source: STARS AND STRIPES #6, December 1941, Centaur, by Myron StraussAnd this why punctuation matters, kids.
Now I have to go and my friend, Jack, off a horse.
What's wrong with the punctuation? He's doing exactly what he's saying he'll do.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 25, 2022 9:11:04 GMT -5
My take on the MU. In the 60s, when I read comics here and there, I didn't think much of the Universe the stories where placed in. I don't know if "real world" has much meaning when you are 10. But in the 70s, as I became a serious comic reader, I bought into the shared Universe and that it was based on the one I lived in. Real places and real people interacted with the Marvel population. Unlike DC, which felt more like a parallel dimension. We can talk about how much there really was a company wide same Universe, or how much continuity they had, but it felt like that. Past stories were history, what happened in one book was talked about in others. It felt connected and continuous, and that's what mattered to the fans. I was able to hold onto that until the 90s, when the expansion of the Marvel U, the domination of the X-Universe, and pure time disrupted it all. It was harder and harder to keep all that was happening in the same Universe. But more than that, the characters I had been reading for 30 years could not keep their past, and the Universe fell apart. I could keep with the slower time progress for a while, as characters aged slower than me. They still matured, but at a slower rate. But by the 90s, the history wasn't possible. Reed and Ben couldn't have fought in WWII, Peter couldn't fight Doc Ock after hanging out in Greenwich Village in the 60s, Tony couldn't have invented the armor while captive in Vietnam. I know they tried to move those moments forward, but in doing so, they left the real world behind, inventing wars and places to substitute for our world. Read Fantastic Four Annual '98. Karl Kessel wrote a story that takes place in a parallel dimension where the Marvel characters are aged as if they were started in the 60s. But to me that wasn't a parallel dimension, that was the MU I grew up with and loved. The one in the other books was the alternate one. So calling it the Marvel Universe didn't affect my view of the comics, but the Marvel Universe itself mutated into something I didn't recognize. (pun intended)
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 25, 2022 10:29:56 GMT -5
Saw this quote from a comic creator recently: I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean. Particularly struggling with “an inaccessible parallel where the characters were found”. I don’t see what the ‘vital thing that was lost is’ because the term Marvel Universe was created. Absolutely struggling with that one. I'd suggest that the creator is trying too hard to find problems and be a victim.
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Post by foxley on Nov 26, 2022 1:34:52 GMT -5
Personally, I've always found it amusing when Marvel zombies try to claim that Marvel is superior to DC because it takes place in the 'real world' instead of made-up places like Metropolis and Gotham City. Really? Because I've checked my atlas and I can't find Latveria or Wakanda or any of those dozens of Central and South American countries who got taken over by communist supervillains and had to be rescued liberated and converted to capitalism by Ant-Man and the Wasp. Or is 'real world' code for New York City?
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