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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 6, 2023 23:18:06 GMT -5
I tell you Dr. Doom gets no respect... -M A Marvel Poop Art Production.
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Post by MDG on Mar 7, 2023 11:30:39 GMT -5
What I'm getting from this is that Dr. Doom was not appropriately trademarked. Also, that there are opportunities waiting...
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 8, 2023 13:24:28 GMT -5
What I'm getting from this is that Dr. Doom was not appropriately trademarked. Also, that there are opportunities waiting... I don't see a trademark notice; but, it could still be a licensed product. I have seen such things around. Someone who came back from a liquid lunch might have okayed a license without listening to the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 13:10:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 20:45:23 GMT -5
Mad artist Al Jafee turns 102 today. -M
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 7:57:50 GMT -5
I love this:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 15:38:30 GMT -5
Today is the 122nd anniversary of the birth of comics legends Carl Barks. -M
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 18:17:12 GMT -5
IcctromboneThe Cartoonist Kayfabe crew looks at Liefeld's Captain America... it's not necessarily a flattering look. -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 27, 2023 23:22:13 GMT -5
Icctrombone The Cartoonist Kayfabe crew looks at Liefeld's Captain America... it's not necessarily a flattering look. -M Really? I am shocked.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 27, 2023 23:23:10 GMT -5
ps Are we sure that Cap's chest isn't hinged and he just didn't get the lid shut?
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Post by tonebone on Mar 28, 2023 13:51:17 GMT -5
Icctrombone The Cartoonist Kayfabe crew looks at Liefeld's Captain America... it's not necessarily a flattering look. -M I often enjoy Comics Kayfabe, but sometimes, when Ed Piskor refers to some comics artists as "jobbers", I could reach through my computer monitor and throttle him. He loves to draw a distinction between the "auteur" artists of comics and the every day work-for-hire "jobbers". He (of course) falls on the side of the auteurs, and the jobbers are mentioned with disdain and dismissed as miserable schlubs who would do anything for a dollar. How does all that Grand Design money taste, Piskor?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2023 13:55:08 GMT -5
Icctrombone The Cartoonist Kayfabe crew looks at Liefeld's Captain America... it's not necessarily a flattering look. -M I often enjoy Comics Kayfabe, but sometimes, when Ed Piskor refers to some comics artists as "jobbers", I could reach through my computer monitor and throttle him. He loves to draw a distinction between the "auteur" artists of comics and the every day work-for-hire "jobbers". He (of course) falls on the side of the auteurs, and the jobbers are mentioned with disdain and dismissed as miserable schlubs who would do anything for a dollar. How does all that Grand Design money taste, Piskor? If Grand Design were a jobber work, it would have been done in Marvel's House Style and not Piskor's unique style. It's not work for hire that makes you a jobber, it's subsuming your artistic voice/vision/style to accommodate a house style for a paycheck rather than producing something that is true to you whether it's creator-owned or work-for-hire, or "hacking" to make a deadline instead of producing something that is to the best of your ability. I don't see any hypocrisy in Piskor's having done Grand Design and calling out jobbers. -M
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Post by tonebone on Mar 28, 2023 14:55:05 GMT -5
I often enjoy Comics Kayfabe, but sometimes, when Ed Piskor refers to some comics artists as "jobbers", I could reach through my computer monitor and throttle him. He loves to draw a distinction between the "auteur" artists of comics and the every day work-for-hire "jobbers". He (of course) falls on the side of the auteurs, and the jobbers are mentioned with disdain and dismissed as miserable schlubs who would do anything for a dollar. How does all that Grand Design money taste, Piskor? If Grand Design were a jobber work, it would have been done in Marvel's House Style and not Piskor's unique style. It's not work for hire that makes you a jobber, it's subsuming your artistic voice/vision/style to accommodate a house style for a paycheck rather than producing something that is true to you whether it's creator-owned or work-for-hire, or "hacking" to make a deadline instead of producing something that is to the best of your ability. I don't see any hypocrisy in Piskor's having done Grand Design and calling out jobbers. -M There is some contradiction when talking about certain artists, tho. He considers Kirby a god of the artform, but he was the ultimate jobber, by his estimation. Same with Toth, Adams, etc... They did great work, and had incredible natural skills, but mostly stuck to working dispassionately for a paycheck. It just bugs me when he talks derisively about people like Trimpe, Paul Ryan, Ron Lim, Ron Wilson, Don Heck, and others who did damn fine work, but either didn't want to be auteurs or didn't have an opportunity to. (Or didn't work on things Piskor personally sees as worthy of his respect.) But then you have the ultimate respected auteur in Frank Miller who just vomits out something like DK2.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 28, 2023 17:22:31 GMT -5
Found this through a facebook group. A guy in detroit died recently and left an impressive comic book collection (among other things) that his son is currently auctioning off
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Post by commond on Mar 28, 2023 18:14:35 GMT -5
Jobbers were the guys in wrestling who lost all the time, usually in squashes matches on syndicated television shows. When Ed refers to someone as a jobber, he's really talking about their ability since jobbers were typically the least talented wrestlers. He may use it as a prerogative at times for doing work-for-hire gigs for Marvel or DC, in the sense that those guys are jobbing (i.e. losing) when they could be winning if they did their own creator-owned work and made more money, but I don't think it's meant to slander anyone who's paid a page rate.
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