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Post by tonebone on Mar 29, 2023 8:00:23 GMT -5
Found this through a facebook group. A guy in detroit died recently and left an impressive comic book collection (among other things) that his son is currently auctioning off WOW... I will show this to my wife and show her I am small-time in my obsessions. No cargo containers.... yet.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 29, 2023 8:04:13 GMT -5
I love the “buried treasure” aspect to it.
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Post by tonebone on Mar 29, 2023 8:19:55 GMT -5
I often enjoy Comics Kayfabe, but sometimes, when Ed Piskor refers to some comics artists as "jobbers", I could reach through my computer monitor and throttle him. He loves to draw a distinction between the "auteur" artists of comics and the every day work-for-hire "jobbers". He (of course) falls on the side of the auteurs, and the jobbers are mentioned with disdain and dismissed as miserable schlubs who would do anything for a dollar. How does all that Grand Design money taste, Piskor? If Grand Design were a jobber work, it would have been done in Marvel's House Style and not Piskor's unique style. It's not work for hire that makes you a jobber, it's subsuming your artistic voice/vision/style to accommodate a house style for a paycheck rather than producing something that is true to you whether it's creator-owned or work-for-hire, or "hacking" to make a deadline instead of producing something that is to the best of your ability. I don't see any hypocrisy in Piskor's having done Grand Design and calling out jobbers. -M Does Marvel still have a "house style"? I don't think you could really say that today. I mean their comics run the gamut from Skottie Young to David Finch and every tumbler artist style inbetween (unfortunately).
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Post by MDG on Mar 29, 2023 9:13:15 GMT -5
If Grand Design were a jobber work, it would have been done in Marvel's House Style and not Piskor's unique style. It's not work for hire that makes you a jobber, it's subsuming your artistic voice/vision/style to accommodate a house style for a paycheck rather than producing something that is true to you whether it's creator-owned or work-for-hire, or "hacking" to make a deadline instead of producing something that is to the best of your ability. I don't see any hypocrisy in Piskor's having done Grand Design and calling out jobbers. -M There is some contradiction when talking about certain artists, tho. He considers Kirby a god of the artform, but he was the ultimate jobber, by his estimation. Same with Toth, Adams, etc... They did great work, and had incredible natural skills, but mostly stuck to working dispassionately for a paycheck. It just bugs me when he talks derisively about people like Trimpe, Paul Ryan, Ron Lim, Ron Wilson, Don Heck, and others who did damn fine work, but either didn't want to be auteurs or didn't have an opportunity to. (Or didn't work on things Piskor personally sees as worthy of his respect.) But then you have the ultimate respected auteur in Frank Miller who just vomits out something like DK2. The term "jobber" also doesn;t recognize the difference in the business models that artists were working under through the bronze age and now.
In a documentary, Martin Scorsese talks about "smugglers"--directors who were able to make personal films while working on small genre movies, like Budd Boetticher, Robert Siodmak, or Andre DeToth. I think folks like Toth, Ditko, and Kirby were doing something similar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 18:46:02 GMT -5
Gem City Comic Con (this July 22-23) is starting to announce and promote it's guests. So far Don Simpson and Michael T. Gilbert are the two I am most excited about, though they were both previous gusts and I have met both before. -M
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Post by foxley on Mar 31, 2023 3:13:44 GMT -5
It is fairly well known that Steve Englehart surreptitiously continued his "Celestial Madonna" storyline from Marvel's Avengers series by having the character of Mantis essentially appear as 'Willow' in DC's Justice League of America #142. However, while doing some research on the books Don Glut wrote for Gold Key, I learned Don pulled a similar stunt. In Dagar the Invincible #15 (April 1976), Dagar's love interest Graylin decides that she can no longer tolerate the nomadic life of a mercenary warriors mate and leaves him. In Marvel's Kull the Destroyer #22 (August 1977), Graylin turns up as an amnesiac who cannot remember her name or where she came from, but has vague memories that she used to love a warrior. Dubbed Larelai, she travels with Kull untill #28, when she leaves him for the same reason she left Dagar. The next issue revealed that her amnesia had been caused by Thulsa Doom as part of a plot to ensnare Kull.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 5:52:27 GMT -5
Frustrating moment for me in my LCS yesterday.
It’s six miles from me. I went there as I the latest issue of Back Issue is out - but I did not leave with it.
When I got there, people were queuing up outside. A woman opened the door and told us that they’d had an IT issue and that their tills could not take cash or card payments. Okay. It happens. Then she told us the manager had insisted the shop open for browsing purposes only.
Browsing purposes? If you can’t take any cash or card payments, why open at all?
Before I left, I did mention to the woman that I was a regular customer and was coming to pick up an order. Fuel isn’t cheap nowadays, and driving six miles there and six miles back isn’t fun. So she told me to go upstairs and they’d no doubt be able to sort something out for me.
I went upstairs. My Back Issue was on the counter. I’m a regular customer who has a customer order number. The woman appeared to suggest I could take the issue home, but then changed her mind, it would seem. She reiterated the “we can’t take cash or card payments”. What else is there?
I get that IT issues happen (my barbershop has an ancient till, I bet he has no IT issues). But I’ve experienced something similar previously - and that was rectified. Once, I went into WHSmith to buy some books - and their tills were down. The manager sold me the items anyway, and she wrote down the description of items sold/cash taken. She told me that she’d simply put the cash in the till later. On another occasion, the newsagents had an IT issue, but he did the same. He wrote stuff down, put the cash in an envelope and said he’d register the transaction later.
For anyone here who may have worked in a comic store, could my LCS not have done the same? What if I’d given her the money and she’d wrote my customer reference number on an envelope, putting it in the till later?
In a nutshell, I see zero point in opening the shop merely for browsing purposes. As I left, there didn’t appear to be an employee on the door to explain to people it was for browsing only. How many might go in, browse for ten minutes, pick up items and then go to the till? If you can’t take payments of any kind, close the shop. Closed or open, you’re not going to make money either way.
Incidentally, this shop, which doesn’t seem to have much of an emphasis on customer service, has frustrated me and others in the past. Thing is, that’s my nearest comic store. There are Forbidden Planet stores in Wolverhampton and Coventry, both of which I have visited in the past (great service from both!), but they’re far from me. Wolverhampton is 18 miles from my front door. Coventry is 16 miles from here. My options are limited. The local newsagents and WHSmith cannot order in TwoMorrows magazines because they can only order in titles published by a UK publisher. While I have found TwoMorrows books on Amazon, I haven’t been able to find individual magazines.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 7:38:29 GMT -5
Frustrating moment for me in my LCS yesterday. It’s six miles from me. I went there as I the latest issue of Back Issue is out - but I did not leave with it. When I got there, people were queuing up outside. A woman opened the door and told us that they’d had an IT issue and that their tills could not take cash or card payments. Okay. It happens. Then she told us the manager had insisted the shop open for browsing purposes only. Browsing purposes? If you can’t take any cash or card payments, why open at all? Before I left, I did mention to the woman that I was a regular customer and was coming to pick up an order. Fuel isn’t cheap nowadays, and driving six miles there and six miles back isn’t fun. So she told me to go upstairs and they’d no doubt be able to sort something out for me. I went upstairs. My Back Issue was on the counter. I’m a regular customer who has a customer order number. The woman appeared to suggest I could take the issue home, but then changed her mind, it would seem. She reiterated the “we can’t take cash or card payments”. What else is there? I get that IT issues happen (my barbershop has an ancient till, I bet he has no IT issues). But I’ve experienced something similar previously - and that was rectified. Once, I went into WHSmith to buy some books - and their tills were down. The manager sold me the items anyway, and she wrote down the description of items sold/cash taken. She told me that she’d simply put the cash in the till later. On another occasion, the newsagents had an IT issue, but he did the same. He wrote stuff down, put the cash in an envelope and said he’d register the transaction later. For anyone here who may have worked in a comic store, could my LCS not have done the same? What if I’d given her the money and she’d wrote my customer reference number on an envelope, putting it in the till later? In a nutshell, I see zero point in opening the shop merely for browsing purposes. As I left, there didn’t appear to be an employee on the door to explain to people it was for browsing only. How many might go in, browse for ten minutes, pick up items and then go to the till? If you can’t take payments of any kind, close the shop. Closed or open, you’re not going to make money either way. Incidentally, this shop, which doesn’t seem to have much of an emphasis on customer service, has frustrated me and others in the past. Thing is, that’s my nearest comic store. There are Forbidden Planet stores in Wolverhampton and Coventry, both of which I have visited in the past (great service from both!), but they’re far from me. Wolverhampton is 18 miles from my front door. Coventry is 16 miles from here. My options are limited. The local newsagents and WHSmith cannot order in TwoMorrows magazines because they can only order in titles published by a UK publisher. While I have found TwoMorrows books on Amazon, I haven’t been able to find individual magazines. I've been a retail manager for 30 years. Every place I have worked has a protocol for doing manual transactions, if the computer system goes down. It's a pain in the tuchus; but, it can be done. The hard part is applying correct sales tax and credit card authorizations. But, yeah, we still operate without computers. We might be more limited, especially in my current workplace, as our production is heavily dependent on computer networks; but, I have operated without them, before, for a couple of hours, while we got the system restored. What you have there is a manager who doesn't know how to adapt to situations and deliver customer service. Part of being a leader is dealing with emergencies and directing your subordinates in handling the emergency and finding work-around mechanisms. That's the real art to the job: creative problem solving. For a retail store, you are providing a service; so, you figure out how to best deliver that service to your customers, with the tools you have. Now, if we don't have electrical power, we do not open. It's not a safe environment and none of our systems will work, preventing us from delivering any service. I have had this on a couple of occasions. You communicate with your customers, honestly and offer possible solutions to their needs. At my current location, we had power down for an hour or so and still allowed customers to pick up pre-paid orders; we just couldn't tender them out in the register until later. What you have is a manager who just doesn't want to do the extra work, when the system is restored. Or is too clueless to figure out how. Or both. As far as customer service in comic shops: I have experienced both ends of the spectrum and in between. However, I have been to a very select few where the owner/operator was a really good, professional businessman. A lot of store owners were fans who opened a store, but ran their business with a fan's eye, instead of a businessman's. Most of them didn't remain open, after 5-10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 7:52:07 GMT -5
It’s good to get your perspective, codystarbuck . And, yes, I have experienced both ends of the spectrum and in between. As confusing as it is, here in the UK, Forbidden Planet and Forbidden Planet International are two separate entities. I went into Forbidden Planet once to see if I could order a graphic novel. I asked the guy on the counter if he had a particular graphic novel, but, after barely looking up, he said something like, “If it ain’t on the shelf, mate, I’d try Waterstones.” Great. No offer to even order it? I made sure people knew that Forbidden Planet International wasn’t the same as Forbidden Planet, which had not offered me good service. I went into another comic store once to enquire about setting up a book club. My idea was to tie it into the comic store. Customers would pick the graphic novel up from that store, and the store would advertise the book club meet, which would take place at a coffee shop or somewhere (the store had no meeting rooms). The woman on the counter seemed keen. She took my number and said the manager would ring me. I never got a call. I mean, not only would this graphic novel club be a good social occasion for us comic fans, but with the proviso that you’d pick the book up from the store, it’d bring some £££s to the store, too. (The idea was it’d be arranged via the store) I guess the manager didn’t ring back. Or maybe the store assistant didn’t pass my number on to him. I thought that a book club would be nice, but I also thought it’d be great to set up a Facebook page and give the comic store some free advertising, totally unconditional. Anyway, from what you describe, it sounds like they could have accommodated me. I was not looking for special treatment. But I do have an order with the store. The guy who happened to be passing anyway, and spotted a Swamp Thing figure in the window, is probably not gonna be too irked if he is told to come back. A customer with a regular order, like me, who has to travel six miles to that shop, expected something a bit more accommodating, I confess.
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 1, 2023 8:44:50 GMT -5
Here is a tidbit from Mark Evaner.
Looking at those early Spider-Man issues we had" The Vulture Doc Ock The Sandman The Lizard Electro Mysterio The Green Goblin Kraven The Scorpion
So I wonder which started with a Kirby design? I think Ditko put his imprint on all of them, so it's really hard to tell. As Mark said, both were capable of coming up with all of them. To me the mostly that started with a Kirby design are Doc Ock and Kraven.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 17:07:49 GMT -5
It’s good to get your perspective, codystarbuck . And, yes, I have experienced both ends of the spectrum and in between. As confusing as it is, here in the UK, Forbidden Planet and Forbidden Planet International are two separate entities. I went into Forbidden Planet once to see if I could order a graphic novel. I asked the guy on the counter if he had a particular graphic novel, but, after barely looking up, he said something like, “If it ain’t on the shelf, mate, I’d try Waterstones.” Great. No offer to even order it? I made sure people knew that Forbidden Planet International wasn’t the same as Forbidden Planet, which had not offered me good service. I went into another comic store once to enquire about setting up a book club. My idea was to tie it into the comic store. Customers would pick the graphic novel up from that store, and the store would advertise the book club meet, which would take place at a coffee shop or somewhere (the store had no meeting rooms). The woman on the counter seemed keen. She took my number and said the manager would ring me. I never got a call. I mean, not only would this graphic novel club be a good social occasion for us comic fans, but with the proviso that you’d pick the book up from the store, it’d bring some £££s to the store, too. (The idea was it’d be arranged via the store) I guess the manager didn’t ring back. Or maybe the store assistant didn’t pass my number on to him. I thought that a book club would be nice, but I also thought it’d be great to set up a Facebook page and give the comic store some free advertising, totally unconditional. Anyway, from what you describe, it sounds like they could have accommodated me. I was not looking for special treatment. But I do have an order with the store. The guy who happened to be passing anyway, and spotted a Swamp Thing figure in the window, is probably not gonna be too irked if he is told to come back. A customer with a regular order, like me, who has to travel six miles to that shop, expected something a bit more accommodating, I confess. They could have accommodated everyone. They chose not to; which I would bear in mind in future dealings. I could understand if you didn't have power to the store, or had something like flooding, or structural issues that prevented you from opening, period....even staffing issues (these days); but, just because you computer system is down? At Barnes & Noble, our registers could function in an off-line mode, if we lost the network. They would store sales information until the network was available again, the upload the sales information to the network. It would auto-approve credit card transactions up to $50 (since it is covered by insurance). For larger sales, we would call for authorization, give them the merchant ID number, the card number and the sale total and they would give us an approval code or a denial. The only issue would be that we couldn't access the B&N Member Card system. If the customer had their card, we applied the discount. If they didn't have it with them, we normally took their word for it, unless it was a high dollar item. If we had no operable registers, we had a "crash kit," with credit card authorization forms, a card imprinter (the old school sliding thing that imprinted the cards info on a carbon), tabulating calculators, and inventory forms to record the ISBNs or UPCs purchased. We then wrote out receipts, from a generic receipt book and stamped them with a store stamp. In 20 years, I think we resorted to that once. Our registers, while in offline mode, could be unplugged and taken to an off-site event, to ring sales. We used to provide retail books for author events at the local public librabry, so they could be signed. We'd haul the books and a register unit out there and hook it all up, ring the sales, then return to the store and plug the register back into the network, where it would upload all of the sales. Once in a great while we got a decline, on a credit card transaction; but, like I said, we were covered for up to $50 in value. Meanwhile, I have run into that situation at fast food restaurants, where they have no electronic payment back-up and usually just drive off to another restaurant that can take my debit card (I rarely carry cash). The fact that they have no back-up is on their franchise owner, who was too cheap to pop for something.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 1, 2023 17:11:48 GMT -5
Here is a tidbit from Mark Evaner. Looking at those early Spider-Man issues we had" The Vulture Doc Ock The Sandman The Lizard Electro Mysterio The Green Goblin Kraven The Scorpion So I wonder which started with a Kirby design? I think Ditko put his imprint on all of them, so it's really hard to tell. As Mark said, both were capable of coming up with all of them. To me the mostly that started with a Kirby design are Doc Ock and Kraven. My suspects would be Doc Ock, Sandman, maybe Green Goblin. Kraven and Electro I could see from either. Vulture, Lizard and Scorpion feel more like Ditko villains, like you would see in Blue Beetle or The Question. Doc Ock and Sandman are similar to a lot of Simon & Kirby villains.
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 1, 2023 20:02:48 GMT -5
Sandman does have a Kirby feel, and is a character name Kirby used before. IIRC
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Post by MWGallaher on Apr 2, 2023 5:49:03 GMT -5
Here is a tidbit from Mark Evanier. Looking at those early Spider-Man issues we had" The Vulture Doc Ock The Sandman The Lizard Electro Mysterio The Green Goblin Kraven The Scorpion So I wonder which started with a Kirby design? I think Ditko put his imprint on all of them, so it's really hard to tell. As Mark said, both were capable of coming up with all of them. To me the mostly that started with a Kirby design are Doc Ock and Kraven. My guesses: The Vulture feels like a Ditko creation: the old man's face, the wings under the arm were echoed in Ditko's Dove. Kirby did several other multi-armed characters over his career, so Dr. Octopus is a possible Kirby design. When Kirby did Sandman in FANTASTIC FOUR, he redesigned the costume, so I'd assume the mundane original is Ditko. Kirby did countless animal/human hybrids, so The Lizard might have been his. Electro's design seems too gaudy and on-the-nose for Kirby. Mysterio is 100% Ditko, to my eyes: the filigree, the elaborate bracers, the weird eyes on the chest. Green Goblin seems like Ditko's creation. I can't see Kirby giving a major villain a rubber mask, but then again, if Kirby designed it, that may not have been his intent, but instead justifying a bit of fantasy in a character he saw as using a more practical costume. Kraven is the only one of them I can recall Kirby using in a solo writing/drawing effort, so it may have been one of his own designs inspiring him to use the character in a Ka-Zar story. The Scorpion strikes me as designed around Ditko-style poses, so I'd bet on this one being Ditko's. If we take it that Kirby did indeed design more than one villain for AS-M, my money's on Kraven and the Lizard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 6:09:48 GMT -5
I'm not saying Evanier was making things up per se or it isn't possible Kirby had any input, but my head isn't there that any of those villain designs absolutely scream Jack.
ASM during Ditko's run noticeably had a much more robust line-up of villains than the main credited titles Kirby worked on, so maybe he contributed an idea here or there, but I'm not sharing Steve's credit without more verifiable info.
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