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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:12:47 GMT -5
This is a poor early teaser to generate some interest in a new movie for a hero that nobody was really expecting or well known. It really does nothing to sell the concept or bring folks in. Hoping future trailers will prove a bit more fun and interesting. You would think Disney could learn something from lackluster trailers (like John Carter) and stop relying on the MARVEL brand to put people in the theaters. I'm not expecting a stinker as Marvel has pretty much shown they know what they are doing with their movies and yet with how big Wonder Woman went over why are they "underselling" Captain Marvel? Especially when she will be their 1st major female stand alone movie? The usual Corporate hands that don't think things through properly. Lets see her kicking some Skrull butt and standing loud and proud for crying out loud!!! Disagree completely that this does a poor job to generate interest. This is an origin story set up as a mystery, as no one (except we geeks) knows about her. When I watch this, I want to know why she fell to Earth, what was she doing in space in the first place, why does she punch that old lady on the bus, and why does she have the memory gaps? They even set it up with the "Discover...What Makes...Her (which morphs into A Hero)" script. They're being intentionally cryptic to draw you in, because it's not going to be the Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel origin from the old Captain Marvel series that comic book fans know. I'm excited for it, both for myself and because I will be able to take my daughters to a female-led Marvel movie for the first time. They enjoyed Wonder Woman, even though they only had a passing knowledge about her, and as my older daughter has actually read most of the Silver/Bronze Age Captain Marvel series (I buy $5 Essentials for her when I find them, and she has the first two for CM), she already knows who Carol Danvers is.
In fairness, that "Her... A Hero" thing has really struck a chord - lots and lots of positive reaction from women to that. I hope that it's not just going to polarise and that women flock to it and men just ignore it, but of all of the male nerds I've talked to outside of this board, 100% have been unimpressed / uninterested, which isn't a great sign.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 13:23:46 GMT -5
Disagree completely that this does a poor job to generate interest. This is an origin story set up as a mystery, as no one (except we geeks) knows about her. When I watch this, I want to know why she fell to Earth, what was she doing in space in the first place, why does she punch that old lady on the bus, and why does she have the memory gaps? They even set it up with the "Discover...What Makes...Her (which morphs into A Hero)" script. They're being intentionally cryptic to draw you in, because it's not going to be the Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel origin from the old Captain Marvel series that comic book fans know. I'm excited for it, both for myself and because I will be able to take my daughters to a female-led Marvel movie for the first time. They enjoyed Wonder Woman, even though they only had a passing knowledge about her, and as my older daughter has actually read most of the Silver/Bronze Age Captain Marvel series (I buy $5 Essentials for her when I find them, and she has the first two for CM), she already knows who Carol Danvers is. In fairness, that "Her... A Hero" thing has really struck a chord - lots and lots of positive reaction from women to that. I hope that it's not just going to polarise and that women flock to it and men just ignore it, but of all of the male nerds I've talked to outside of this board, 100% have been unimpressed / uninterested, which isn't a great sign.
My personal experience has been the opposite. Over on the Mego Museum, all the male nerds except one were impressed by the trailer and super-excited, and all the males in our local comic creator/con going friends circle on my wife's facebook have been super-hyped about this after seeing the trailer. The most negativity I have seen about this trailer has been here on these boards. Pretty much I have seen exactly three guys* outside here (out of about 150 or I have taled to/seen comments from about the film) who have not liked or are negative to the film. And like here, they are all in the "get off my grass" group of fandom. -M *excluding anyone associated with Comicsgate that is, but their opinions are irrelevant to me and they wouldn't like a female led film if it was the second coming of The Godfather in quality. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 14:55:45 GMT -5
I've just watched half a dozen reaction videos to the trailer, and one of the things I'm starting to realise that doesn't work for me is that I'm really not convinced by Brie Larsen - her performance just seems really insipid in this. Now, admittedly, she doesn't get to do very much, other than make soppy cryptic comments and pose a bit, but I think that's the problem - I'm just not getting "powerful superhero-to-be" from her performance, I'm just getting "meh". I don't know if that is her, specifically (I've not consciously seen her in anything else), or just the selection of scenes in the the trailer, but it's just feeling a bit forced - here's this fairly ordinary person and (hand wave) she's now the most powerful character around, and it just doesn't feel deserved, from what we've seen so far.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 20, 2018 17:24:08 GMT -5
The actress seems very bland, and she sounds like a 12 year-old. I always imagined Carol as having a deeper, more authoritative voice. I think Scarlet Johannson would have been perfect if she wasn't already known for a different Marvel character.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 21, 2018 8:44:21 GMT -5
The actress seems very bland, and she sounds like a 12 year-old. I always imagined Carol as having a deeper, more authoritative voice. I think Scarlet Johannson would have been perfect if she wasn't already known for a different Marvel character. How does she seem "bland"? Is that code for "not incredibly hot"? I'll take an actress with an Oscar over some piece of eye candy any day of the week. While I'll give you that Brie Larson doesn't have a commanding voice, speaking as someone who's had a 12-year old girl under his roof for the past 10 months, Larson sounds nothing like a tween girl. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Sept 21, 2018 9:42:14 GMT -5
I'm suspicious of Jude Law's character in the movie. Supposedly, he plays Walter Lawson / Mar-Vell, but they've been very circumspect about the role. Law looks nothing like any version of Mar-Vell that I can recall, but he does bear a strong resemblance to Col. Yon-Rogg, Captain Marvel's traitorous superior and the man indirectly responsible for Carol becoming Ms. Marvel.
It's nothing other than a guess, but I suspect Law's character will be a seemingly benevolent mentor for Carol until his treachery is revealed (conspiring with Ronan to overthrow the Supreme Intelligence, perhaps?) late in the film.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 21, 2018 10:03:56 GMT -5
How does she seem "bland"? Is that code for "not incredibly hot"? I'll take an actress with an Oscar over some piece of eye candy any day of the week. No, it's code for "she looks completely bored in every scene." |
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 21, 2018 10:32:08 GMT -5
It doesn't matter one darn bit what we comics nerds think of the trailer or the movie because all of us together make up a tiny fraction of the audience that goes to the MCU films. The trailer's job is to entice those other, non-comics-reading folks to plant their butts in the theater seats. It's their reactions that matter, not ours. These aren't "our" characters anymore. They belong to the world.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 21, 2018 11:07:07 GMT -5
How does she seem "bland"? Is that code for "not incredibly hot"? I'll take an actress with an Oscar over some piece of eye candy any day of the week. No, it's code for "she looks completely bored in every scene." I just don't understand how people make these kind of assessments based on 60 seconds of snippets of scenes from a movie. There's absolutely zero context to why she may have a particular look or be acting a certain way. |
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Post by rberman on Sept 24, 2018 16:44:38 GMT -5
How does she seem "bland"? Is that code for "not incredibly hot"? I'll take an actress with an Oscar over some piece of eye candy any day of the week. No, it's code for "she looks completely bored in every scene." This week's topic has been the calls for her to "smile more," which is often code for "females should look appealing, not threatening," resulting in a spate of photoshopped pictures in which she and other Marvel heroes have been given smiles:   |
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Post by berkley on Oct 2, 2018 1:58:04 GMT -5
I don't have any connection with the character as Ms. Marvel was introduced just as I was starting to get out of reading Marvel Comics. In fact, the introduction of characters like Ms. Marvel and the She-Hulk was one of the reasons I began to lose interest in their product - and that's what it increasingly felt like, just product, something invented strictly for commercial reasons, with no creative soul or impulse behind it.
I'll still probably see this, though, since I've seen all the other Avengers-related movies and this one seems to be linked to the whole Thanos story-arc. And I'm curious to see how they handle the whole Kree angle.
Regarding Marvel's push to make Ms or the current female version of Captain Marvel their Wonder Woman, I think the Marvel heroine suffers from the lack of a compelling character-concept. Mar-Vell, on the other hand, had what I've always thought was a really strong underlying concept, though it never did translate into much popularity so there's no telling what audiences will go for.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 2, 2018 8:40:04 GMT -5
I'm suspicious of Jude Law's character in the movie. Supposedly, he plays Walter Lawson / Mar-Vell, but they've been very circumspect about the role. Law looks nothing like any version of Mar-Vell that I can recall, but he does bear a strong resemblance to Col. Yon-Rogg, Captain Marvel's traitorous superior and the man indirectly responsible for Carol becoming Ms. Marvel. It's nothing other than a guess, but I suspect Law's character will be a seemingly benevolent mentor for Carol until his treachery is revealed (conspiring with Ronan to overthrow the Supreme Intelligence, perhaps?) late in the film. I have felt all along that Jude Law looks more like Yon-Rogg and truly believe he will end up being the traitorous villain of the movie. Why would Jude otherwise "waste" his talents on a mostly throw away character background in a movie unless there was some tasty villainy chewing acting to enjoy? I just hope the MU movieverse doesn't spit upon the good name Mar-Vell. |
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Post by brutalis on Nov 30, 2018 7:34:43 GMT -5
Funko Pop's leaked Jude Law's character with a picture advertisement listing of upcoming Captain Marvel Pop's being released. Jude is playing Yon-Rogg in the movie. So now we must speculate and wonder if there will be somebody playing Mar-Vell in the movie? Does this make Yon-Rogg the big bad in this movie or set him up for a sequel as the villain?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 21:54:19 GMT -5
Trailer #2:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 4:41:24 GMT -5
Much much much better... though (nitpicking) her voice still sounds a bit weak
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