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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 12, 2018 19:32:51 GMT -5
Stan Lee was a creative genius. No matter how you slice it, he helped bring to life some of the most original characters ever to exist. They are timeless, they are part of history, and they will continue to be for generations to come. I am sad I was never able to attend a con to thank him personally but I will make sure to pass along the collecting bug whenever I can so the world can continue to love what he has done. Thanks Stan...'nuff said!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 12, 2018 19:38:13 GMT -5
So really what is there left to say? People who knew Stan Lee have weighed in with memories of The Man. People who met him and worked with him and spent time with him. I didn’t. I’m just one of the multitudes whose life was shaped in part by his work. Directly…but more so, indirectly.
Stan was no longer writing or actively editing when I started buying my own comics. He’d since moved on to be Publisher of Marvel Comics. The first three books I bought were DC…because…Batman. But I soon branched out to Marvel, particularly Spider-Man. And while Stan wasn’t actively writing books…his work was still on the newsstands in the late 70s when I started buying. Among the first books I bought were issues of Marvel Tales with work by Stan and John Romita. And issues of Marvel’s Greatest Comics with Stan and Jack’s work from the glory days of Fantastic Four. And Marvel Double Feature with Cap and Iron Man. At age 8 I didn’t know a reprint from a hole in the ground. They were all new comics to me.
Beyond that, Stan’s influence was felt in the new comics coming from each company. There was a new generation of writers who were, by and large doing what they were doing because it was what Stan did. There was no longer a “Marvel method.” It was just superhero comics now…no matter the company.
There is almost nobody whose cultural footprint is larger than Stan Lee’s. And I say that not to take anything away from Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko or any of the others who co-created with Stan. He sold us so much more than comics. And so much more than Stan Lee. And maybe he oversold us Stan. But I wouldn’t have him any other way.
R. I. P. Thank you for so many hours of joy. Thank you for reminding us that with great power there must also come great responsibility. Thank you for reminding us that families squabble and don’t always get along…but come together when Doom comes knocking. Thank you for helping make the world amazing, fantastic, and uncanny.
Excelsior!
Nuff’ Said.
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Post by robsuperfriend63 on Nov 12, 2018 19:44:44 GMT -5
Tis a sad day for the Marvel Universe!
R.I.P. Stan "The Man" Lee.
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Post by cellardweller on Nov 12, 2018 19:51:53 GMT -5
RiP to Stan Lee
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 19:52:01 GMT -5
R.I.P. to the greatest ambassador comics ever had.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 12, 2018 20:33:10 GMT -5
This is what I posted on Facebook a few hours ago:
Word has come down that Stan Lee has passed away at 95. I've been expecting this news ever since his wife Joan passed a year or two back. With the possible exception of Walt Kelly, no one person was more responsible for my interest in comics as both hobby and career than Smilin' Stan. For all the criticisms that have and will be leveled against him (many justified), nobody can deny Stan played a critical role in overturning the 1950s image of comic books as a sleazy, cheap medium for mouthbreathers, degenerates, and subliterates. Without him and such brilliant co-creators as Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Don Heck, Bill Everett, John Romita, Marie Severin, and Gene Colan, the current dominance in pop culture of comic book-born superheroes would never have happened. I had two chances to talk to Stan the Man over the years but had to pass up both, to my now eternal regret. Thank you, Stan, for Spider-Man, Iron Man, Thor, Dr. Strange, The Fantastic Four, Ant-Man, Daredevil, Nick Fury, The Black Panther, The X-Men, The Silver Surfer, The Inhumans, Hawkeye, The Black Widow, and so many icons of my childhood. Rest in peace.
Cei-U! Nuff said!
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 12, 2018 21:33:58 GMT -5
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Post by beyonder1984 on Nov 12, 2018 22:03:51 GMT -5
I held back the sadness today. I always knew it would come. I never betrayed Stan, so am guilt-free. I still read his comics- literally- I've been reading Marvel chronologically for years. I never bashed him online or tried to prove he didn't create characters. Yes, I have critically examined his stuff but context is everything.
None of the early obits (TMZ, AP + Marvel.com) really talk about his writing, just that he was a creator, ambassador, and helped spawn movies. The Marvel/Disney one was too corporate- and much too short. Stan was never a stuffed shirt. I wish he had penned his own to show his jovial and wordy nature!
I always felt Stan's best scripting was his Amazing Spider-Man run. The way he crafted the personalities of Peter Parker and J. Jonah Jameson remains absolutely perfect and timeless. Stan was running on all cylinders with ASM, regardless of who the artist was.
Stan's Silver Surfer run was his genuine philosophy of life. I know he put his heart and soul into that series. I'm amazed how much of a new following Stan has received just based on the movie cameos. I admit it frustrates me a bit that millions of Marvel newbies never read one comic of his, but saw all of his movies.......but that's neither here nor there.
I got over the negative stuff about Stan some time ago. Stan never meant to hurt Kirby and Ditko and it broke his heart that they had heat with him. And, for as much as it is interesting to read things like "The Case for Kirby" the anti-Stan stuff will forever be speculative and pretentious to me. When you hear and see Stan talk about the controversies, he doesn't come off as malicious or deceitful. He really went out of his way in the last few decades to let us know how great the entire Bullpen was. He defended himself over the years, and I just had to let it go. Life is complicated.
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 12, 2018 22:08:21 GMT -5
In case you haven't seen this one - Stan Lee's cameo in a DC project: It's pretty funny and perhaps one of his best actually.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 23:10:47 GMT -5
chadwilliam ... Thanks for sharing it and it was so FUNNY and I enjoyed the short clip here.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 12, 2018 23:15:40 GMT -5
Truly the end of an era. I'm too young to have read Stan's work as it was being released, but man, the guy was amazing just on the sheer volume of stuff he came up with... never mind how iconic alot of it was. Of course he had help from Kirby, Ditko and others, but he was the guy that made the marketing work.. we would clearly have no Marvel Universe without him.
I still remember how excited I was reading Ravage... new stuff but the legend himself! Perhaps it's not the best comic ever, but it will always have a special place in my heart.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 23:50:13 GMT -5
RIP Stan Lee There will never be another Stan Lee. His contributions to comics as a medium, as a cultural phenomenon, and as a legitimate entertainment field were enormous. For many, his name is synonymous with comics. We need more people with the courage Stan had to face ills our world faces... Face Front! -M
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 12, 2018 23:56:04 GMT -5
Sad that Stan has passed, but like Kurt, I knew it probably wouldn't be long after Joan preceeded him.
Stan, to me, would no doubt be one of the greatest editors of all time. That's what I'll remember him the most for and what I think he was most talented at.
We'll never know definitively to what degree Stan or Jack or Steve actually contributed what to the Marvel Universe, but I do know Stan was the biggest ambassador of both Marvel, and by default, the medium and industry.
Stan was the face of comics; on tv, in movies, on college campuses and conventions.
Always smiling and interacting with the fans
I had the privilege of meeting him in Dallas years ago. I had the Stan / Marvel characters' face montage from a speech he gave in the early 70's.
When I gave it to him to autograph he exclaimed, "I haven't seen on of these in years !"
Looking forward to having it matted and framed with the best archival materials.
Thank you Maestro for conducting the symphony for us for so long, so successfully. Others have followed but none has bested The Man.
No one, nowhere, has successfully duplicated what Stan and his gang put together over half a century ago, not do I think anyone ever will.
Stan is the yardstick by which everyone else is measured.
Like Slam, I was reading the Marvel 70's reprints Stan wrote, and they were all great : The Fantastic Four, the Silver Surfer, Captain America, the X-Men, Spider-Man, the Avengers ...
For thousands of hours of entertainment, bigger than life landscapes and concepts, editor's note, Soapboxes, shuckster-ism, cartoons, licensing, Timely, Atlas, Marvel, Epic, and bringing us great stories and the 4 color memories we love.
Your Bullpen of Fans at the House of Ideas will never forget you.
May the cosmic winds be always at your back.
Excelsior !
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2018 0:23:10 GMT -5
Glen Weldon, of NPR has a pretty good and fair piece about Stan, at the NPR website. Glen writes regularly about comic topics and he writes a nice and accurate piece, that goes beyond the media personna. Stan was a complicated guy, who did good and could have done more; but, on the entire balance, was a positive force for comics and one the key figures in the entire history of the industry and art form. I wasn't surprised, as I have been waiting to hear this, especially after Joan passed away. It's pretty common for husbands to follow closely on their wives death, if they pass away first, especially when they were married as long as Stan and Joan. Also, lest we forget, on Veterans Day, that Stan was a veteran of the Signal Corps, though "playwright" doesn't quite have the heroic ring that Kirby's infantryman had, or Bert Christman's status as one of the Flying Tigers; but, everyone does their part.
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Post by tarkintino on Nov 13, 2018 1:29:28 GMT -5
Lee's passing was sad, but I have long accepted that many who established themselves before the middle of the previous century are moving on to the next life at a rapid pace. For some of you, many of that comic book generation are older than your grandparents, so as difficult as it is to see one big figure after another pass on, there was always that uncomfortable thought about their generation. Without him and such brilliant co-creators as Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Don Heck, Bill Everett, John Romita, Marie Severin, and Gene Colan, the current dominance in pop culture of comic book-born superheroes would never have happened. Cei-U! Nuff said! The part in bold is absolutely critical in any assessment of Lee, but I see major news media is already slanting the story with no historical truth / perspective at all, much like they did when Bob Kane passed on in 1998, and I recall the same when Gene Roddenberry passed on in 1991. There's no question that Lee was a significant force in the medium, but nothing is created in or propelled by a vacuum of one. I've been a reader of Marvel almost since the crib, but I was always aware of the contributions and creative call signs / traits/ benchmarks of everyone and how there would be no Marvel without them.
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