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Post by BigPapaJoe on Nov 13, 2018 1:32:12 GMT -5
Not all heroes wear capes or have super powers. People can still find ways to be fantastical. This man helped me walk the current path I've been on since I was a child. Through his stories and characters he has conveyed the power of the human imagination, with the spirit to dream. He really was a majestical Marvel. Regarding his legacy, I will always be a "true believer" to his immense contributions to the world of comic books. From Yancy street to Asgard, it's been a hell of a ride. Thanks Stan. Excelsior
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Nov 13, 2018 1:44:48 GMT -5
I held back the sadness today. I always knew it would come. I never betrayed Stan, so am guilt-free. I still read his comics- literally- I've been reading Marvel chronologically for years. I never bashed him online or tried to prove he didn't create characters. Yes, I have critically examined his stuff but context is everything. None of the early obits (TMZ, AP + Marvel.com) really talk about his writing, just that he was a creator, ambassador, and helped spawn movies. The Marvel/Disney one was too corporate- and much too short. Stan was never a stuffed shirt. I wish he had penned his own to show his jovial and wordy nature! I always felt Stan's best scripting was his Amazing Spider-Man run. The way he crafted the personalities of Peter Parker and J. Jonah Jameson remains absolutely perfect and timeless. Stan was running on all cylinders with ASM, regardless of who the artist was. Stan's Silver Surfer run was his genuine philosophy of life. I know he put his heart and soul into that series. I'm amazed how much of a new following Stan has received just based on the movie cameos. I admit it frustrates me a bit that millions of Marvel newbies never read one comic of his, but saw all of his movies.......but that's neither here nor there. I got over the negative stuff about Stan some time ago. Stan never meant to hurt Kirby and Ditko and it broke his heart that they had heat with him. And, for as much as it is interesting to read things like "The Case for Kirby" the anti-Stan stuff will forever be speculative and pretentious to me. When you hear and see Stan talk about the controversies, he doesn't come off as malicious or deceitful. He really went out of his way in the last few decades to let us know how great the entire Bullpen was. He defended himself over the years, and I just had to let it go. Life is complicated. I've been reading his FF run with Kirby. It's rough in the beginning, and getting to around issue 50 was a struggle. But they both hit a sweet spot at that point. I guess I just got used to his writing. It didn't bother me like it did before when I first started. Of course I was born in 1987. My perspective is going to be different. I remember watching cartoons in the early 90's, and seeing Stan Lee introduce the audience. Great stuff.
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Post by Randle-El on Nov 13, 2018 1:46:03 GMT -5
Some of my fondest memories as a kid during the 80s were watching Saturday morning cartoons, especially the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends/Incredible Hulk hour. Even before I knew who he was and what he was responsible for creating, I always remembered him as the narrator with the distinctive voice from some of my favorite cartoons.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Nov 13, 2018 1:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 13, 2018 3:01:54 GMT -5
In case you haven't seen this one - Stan Lee's cameo in a DC project: It's pretty funny and perhaps one of his best actually. That ... is friggin' awesome!
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 13, 2018 13:46:42 GMT -5
I loved Mr. Lee's sense of humor. Here's a favorite soapbox piece he wrote for around this time of year back in 1975...
"THANKS" By Henry Wadsworth Lee
I'm thankful for our writers Whose imaginations never fail, And I'm thankful for our artists Who illustrate each tale. I'm thankful for our letterers Who print the words we write, And without our classy colorists We'd just be black and white. I'm thankful for our editors Who put it all together, And the gang that proofs each peerless page In every kind of weather. I'm thankful for our printers So dependable and true, And also for our auditors Whatever it is they do. I'm thankful for our sales force Selling every neighborhood, And I thank our competition For making us look good. Now here's to all of Marveldom I can't thank you enough, Yep, you're the ones I thank the most For reading all this stuff!
Excelsior! Stan
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 13, 2018 14:04:30 GMT -5
Interesting article about the conflict Lee had with Ditko over the development of Spider-Man. www.cbr.com/spider-man-stan-lee-steve-ditko-everyman/I think Stan's greatest contribution was keeping the characters human and flawed and keeping the Marvel Universe integrated and especially in continuity. Those were very big innovations in the 60s.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 18:33:22 GMT -5
This is so neat -- I even downloaded a copy of it and thanks for posting @transcendentalmental ...
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 14, 2018 3:16:11 GMT -5
Maybe they ought to retire the Captain Marvel name. He deserves it more than any.
I'll always remember him for being the face of funny books, for making a geeky hobby seem cool when all my friends were ambivalent, and for his sheer positivity. He was the true SHAPER OF WORLDS.
I kinda always thought he would just keep going forever like his characters, Marvels Peter Pan.
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Post by rberman on Nov 14, 2018 7:16:03 GMT -5
Maybe they ought to retire the Captain Marvel name. He deserves it more than any. If they did, then another company would simply snatch up the trademark. That's why no comic book character can go without appearing for very long.
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Post by masterofquackfu on Nov 16, 2018 21:11:32 GMT -5
Stan was the figurehead for Marvel, which is why he gets the lion's share of the credit. He was a showman, whereas Kirby and Ditko were not. He had boundless energy. I remember seeing him on the Craig Ferguson show in either 2006 or 2007 and he was bouncing off the walls. I remember thinking, 'Damn, this guy is in his 80's and look at him!" He had such incredible energy and that appearance always stuck with me. In the end, he had a great life...got to see his hope and dreams reach their fruition, got to travel the world and got to experience things that most people will never be able to..in the end, he lived a full and successful life. RIP Stan Lee.
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 17, 2018 3:02:48 GMT -5
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 17, 2018 8:40:12 GMT -5
Some of my fondest memories as a kid during the 80s were watching Saturday morning cartoons, especially the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends/Incredible Hulk hour. Even before I knew who he was and what he was responsible for creating, I always remembered him as the narrator with the distinctive voice from some of my favorite cartoons. Those Marvel cartoons, and Stan's voice, were probably my first serious introduction to the Marvel Universe. All controversies aside, Stan brought a lot of joy into the world as the charismatic voice of Marvel Comics.
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 11, 2018 18:04:11 GMT -5
So, I bought this a few days ago: $14.99 at a newsstand near you. EW's writeup on it is here: ew.com/movies/2018/11/30/stan-lee-life-of-marvel-special-edition/"A life this big could not be contained in one story. After Marvel icon Stan Lee died on Nov. 12 at the age of 95, Entertainment Weekly put together this remembrance of the comic book impresario’s life and work. In Stan Lee: A Life of Marvel, which hits newsstands today, we tell the story of “Stan the Man” from multiple perspectives — including classic interviews with him detailing how he and the Marvel braintrust of artists and writers created Spider-Man, The Hulk, Fantastic Four, and other heroes and villains. This collector’s issue spans the Silver Age of comic books, which Lee helped define, and explores how that Big Bang is still expanding into television and movies today. Accompanied by galleries of photos and illustrations, A Life of Marvel includes: • Exclusive interviews with other comic book and movie greats about Stan Lee’s influence (and influences). • A breakdown of his most famous characters — as well as a rundown of Lee’s own many pop culture cameos and appearances. • Tributes and remembrances of fans as well as the actors that brought his characters to life, including a first-person account from Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige about the last time he met with Lee. While one story cannot contain his entire legacy, one word can: Excelsior!" I've read the first 30 pages so far. It's oriented toward the general public rather than us, but I haven't seen any mistakes yet.
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 11, 2018 20:17:51 GMT -5
The big media gets things wrong so often I might've expected it to start out "Stan was born in a shotgun shack, eight miles south of Tupelo." Glad to know some standards have not fallen.
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