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Post by Confessor on Dec 4, 2018 13:45:01 GMT -5
If The 'Nam has it's own universe, does anyone know who won there? Frank Castle. Also, does Peter Porker, The Spectacular Spider-Ham have his own universe? Spider-Ham is from an alternate reality, yes...and that other universe was referenced in the semi-recent Spider-Verse event (Wikipedia tells me Spider-Ham was from Earth-8311, which featured anthropomorphic parodies of a variety of Marvel characters).
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Post by rberman on Dec 4, 2018 13:46:47 GMT -5
What's the status of Captain Carrot? If that was the final question on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?, I would not have a clue what the answer is. ;-) Captain Carrot is still around, albeit gruffer:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 13:48:49 GMT -5
Did Captain Carrot survive Crisis on Infinite Earths? He seemed very quiet following that event... ;-)
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Post by rberman on Dec 4, 2018 13:52:27 GMT -5
Did Captain Carrot survive Crisis on Infinite Earths? He seemed very quiet following that event... ;-) Rabbits are just that way. Until they go on the attack...
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Post by comicsandwho2 on Dec 4, 2018 16:33:53 GMT -5
If you ignore the Frank Castle' story, 'The 'Nam' takes place in the 'real world'.
Me, I preferred the DC 'multiverse' to be limited to Earths 1 and 2, and the Marvel stuff to be confined to 'points of divergence' as shown in the old 'What If?' IMO, DC ended up hurting themselves by insisting on the 'annual Big Event series' after Crisis. Nothing ever measured up to it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 4, 2018 17:11:48 GMT -5
Did Captain Carrot survive Crisis on Infinite Earths? He seemed very quiet following that event... ;-) Rabbits are just that way. Until they go on the attack...
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Post by Confessor on Dec 4, 2018 17:40:40 GMT -5
Rabbits are just that way. Until they go on the attack... Space-rabbits are particularly dangerous...
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 4, 2018 18:13:03 GMT -5
Also, does Peter Porker, The Spectacular Spider-Ham have his own universe? Spider-Ham is from an alternate reality, yes...and that other universe was referenced in the semi-recent Spider-Verse event (Wikipedia tells me Spider-Ham was from Earth-8311, which featured anthropomorphic parodies of a variety of Marvel characters). And following the formula described above, Earth-8311 debuted in November 1983, with the first issue of Marvel Tails Starring Peter Porker the Spectacular Spider-Ham.
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 10, 2018 22:47:18 GMT -5
I think DC did a better job handling its pre-Crisis multiverse than Marvel has ever done handling its own. The DC Multiverse was large but not too large (in spite of COIE's hyperbolic title, the DC Multiverse clearly wasn't infinite), and most of the separate Earths were distinct from one another.
The only thing I dislike about the pre-Crisis multiverse is how the Earths were catalogued. I don't like the mix of numbered and lettered Earths, nor how the numbers/letters were assigned arbitrarily.
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Post by comicsandwho2 on Dec 24, 2018 18:03:50 GMT -5
The "lettered and named Earths" stuff was a little too cute, our real world being Earth Prime, then Earth S for Shazam(gee, an S almost looks like a 5...), and Earth X getting its name because Julie Schwartz adamantly told Len Wein he couldn't use a swastika as the designation. Then, in Crisis, they make Earth 4 the world of the Charlton Heroes, and skip to 'Earth 6' for...Lady Quark? An exercise in pointlessness.
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Post by rberman on Dec 24, 2018 20:10:21 GMT -5
Grant Morrison tried to clean all this up recently with the Grand (Grant?) Unified Multiverse theory as expounded in the Multiversity event. Is that something people would be interested in seeing reviewed, or is it too recent and/or meta?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 6:32:57 GMT -5
Grant Morrison tried to clean all this up recently with the Grand (Grant?) Unified Multiverse theory as expounded in the Multiversity event. Is that something people would be interested in seeing reviewed, or is it too recent and/or meta? I'd be interested, please.
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Post by Cheswick on Dec 25, 2018 10:12:36 GMT -5
Grant Morrison tried to clean all this up recently with the Grand (Grant?) Unified Multiverse theory as expounded in the Multiversity event. Is that something people would be interested in seeing reviewed, or is it too recent and/or meta? I always enjoy your reviews and am interested in your opinion of The Multiversity issues.
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Post by The Cheat on Dec 25, 2018 17:38:59 GMT -5
Grant Morrison tried to clean all this up recently with the Grand (Grant?) Unified Multiverse theory as expounded in the Multiversity event. Is that something people would be interested in seeing reviewed, or is it too recent and/or meta? Some great annotations on Multiversity (and other Morrison works) here: rikdad.blogspot.com/2014/11/multiversity-message.htmlI'd be interested in hearing your thoughts too.
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Post by String on Dec 28, 2018 11:41:22 GMT -5
It makes you wonder what the point is of all those designations. Designations are fine - if you're working in the civil service (as I once did) and you need to locate a person's tax record. But who do those designations benefit? I think this hits upon my main nitpick about multiverses. I have no problem with the concept overall as long as the publisher(s) in question use those alternate universes. For example, Earth-1, Earth-2, Earth-3, Earth-X, Earth-S, all of those are fine for these universes were shown or referred to on a nearly consistent basis by DC for a number of years. However if you do an Elseworlds one-shot where Alfred becomes Batman instead of Bruce, does this really necessitate the establishment of a whole separate universe to support it? One-shots, imaginary tales, imaginary crossovers, stories that may only be referenced once, maybe twice even, I don't see the need in engorging your multiverse in such a manner to support these stories if you are not going to showcase these alternate realities on a more consistent basis. On the other hand, Marvel from the start was never set up to properly support such a concept. Their sliding timescale undercut one of the reasons for having such a multiverse in the first place (was Tony Stark injured in the Vietnam war or the war in Afghanistan?) Plus, I never thought of Marvel having alternate universes, just the same universe enduring an alternate timeline (a view re-enforced by years of X-reading). Again, if they were to showcase such an alternate universe on a consistent basis, that would be more acceptable to me. For right now, I only consider the Marvel multiverse to include the original 616 universe and the Ultimate universe for those were the only two published in such a manner. The rest were just associated with any number of singular events or story arcs (unless certain alternate characters proved viable hits which is where you get Spider-Gwen or my favorite, Mayday Parker Spider-Girl)
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