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Post by rberman on Jun 1, 2019 9:39:55 GMT -5
Getting the Soul Stone made sense; it was about "losing someone you love" not specifically "giving" them. I've always thought that was a cheap gimmick for hollow drama; what if someone is a loner and shows up to get the soul stone? Are they permanently barred from getting it? What if you are a hate monger and love nothing? Again, hollow drama. It appears that the universe doesn't want someone incapable of love getting his hands on the Soul Stone. What were its powers, anyway? We only saw it used as part of the gauntlet, never solo. Cause he looks cool, man! But yeah, the spirit should have taken a form familiar to each seeker. Thanos would be all, "I don't even know who you are" to the Red Skull. |
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Post by rberman on Jun 2, 2019 14:26:02 GMT -5
You know how Thanos' plan in the movies is not the same as Thanos' plan in the comic books? It turns out that Thanos may have been reading Jimmy Olsen #149 (1972, John Albano):  |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jun 20, 2019 2:13:15 GMT -5
They're going to release Avengers Endgame back in theaters for a little while. Apparently there will be a post credits scene this time. Marvel is gunning for that number one spot that Avatar has.
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Post by rberman on Jun 20, 2019 10:51:42 GMT -5
They're going to release Avengers Endgame back in theaters for a little while. Apparently there will be a post credits scene this time. Marvel is gunning for that number one spot that Avatar has. When I saw the movie the first time, there was a post credits tribute to Stan Lee. Then when I saw it the second time, there was not. I'll wait for the DVD to see this post credit sequence. |
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Post by badwolf on Jun 20, 2019 12:42:35 GMT -5
They're going to release Avengers Endgame back in theaters for a little while. Apparently there will be a post credits scene this time. Think I'll wait for it to appear on YouTube... |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 25, 2019 8:00:31 GMT -5
Contains spoilers.
Saw it yesterday. Okay film, but overlong... it seemed oddly light on emotional involvement, despite a few heart-wrenching moments (and a thrilling “Avengers assemble” scene). I think it has to do with handling so many characters, leaving little time for each of them.
Captain Marvel really came across as a Deus Ex Machina. Was it really necessary to set her solo film before this one and involve her in Endgame at all? Since she will probably be one of the cornerstones of the future MCU, I think I would have introduced her after the conclusion of the previous chapter (or else given her a more important role this time around).
I wonder... How come there are any Asgardians left at all? I thought their ship had been blown up at the start of Infinity War. Not complaining, but it feels like a pretty glaring plot hole.
Also, I have several problems with how the timeline is altered in the film... getting some McGuffins from the past, using them in the present and then bringing them back to the exact moment we took them from is par for the course; going back to the past and staying there (until we show up as an old person today) is also easy to get; but where did that extra shield come from at the end? When Cap went back in time, his current shield had been broken so the one given to Sam must have been the one from the past, kept safe from the 1940s to today.
However, unless we radically alter the timeline, that shield should have been in the hands of the government and then given to “young” Steve when he was thawed in The first Avenger. If “old” Steve got his hands on it before that, thus preventing its destruction by Thanos, then what did Captain America use in his modern career as an Avenger? And if the timeline was indeed radically altered by Cap going back to the past then how does old Steve end up in our timeline? Shouldn’t he be in a parallel one?
I also don’t see why the Avengers can’t use their time-travel approach (now that Pym is back, with his precious Pym particles) to go pluck Natasha, Tony and Vision from the past and bring them to the present, the same way Gamora was brought back without changing anything. Dramatically speaking it would be pretty awful, but one wonders what’s preventing our heroes from getting their friends back instead of moping.
Nice coda to the first decade of the MCU, to be sure, but somehow not as much fun as Infinity War.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 25, 2019 16:51:50 GMT -5
Contains spoilers. Saw it yesterday. Okay film, but overlong... it seemed oddly light on emotional involvement, despite a few heart-wrenching moments (and a thrilling “Avengers assemble” scene). I think it has to do with handling so many characters, leaving little time for each of them. Captain Marvel really came across as a Deus Ex Machina. Was it really necessary to set her solo film before this one and involve her in Endgame at all? Since she will probably be one of the cornerstones of the future MCU, I think I would have introduced her after the conclusion of the previous chapter (or else given her a more important role this time around). I wonder... How come there are any Asgardians left at all? I thought their ship had been blown up at the start of Infinity War. Not complaining, but it feels like a pretty glaring plot hole. Also, I have several problems with how the timeline is altered in the film... getting some McGuffins from the past, using them in the present and then bringing them back to the exact moment we took them from is par for the course; going back to the past and staying there (until we show up as an old person today) is also easy to get; but where did that extra shield come from at the end? When Cap went back in time, his current shield had been broken so the one given to Sam must have been the one from the past, kept safe from the 1940s to today. However, unless we radically alter the timeline, that shield should have been in the hands of the government and then given to “young” Steve when he was thawed in The first Avenger. If “old” Steve got his hands on it before that, thus preventing its destruction by Thanos, then what did Captain America use in his modern career as an Avenger? And if the timeline was indeed radically altered by Cap going back to the past then how does old Steve end up in our timeline? Shouldn’t he be in a parallel one? I also don’t see why the Avengers can’t use their time-travel approach (now that Pym is back, with his precious Pym particles) to go pluck Natasha, Tony and Vision from the past and bring them to the present, the same way Gamora was brought back without changing anything. Dramatically speaking it would be pretty awful, but one wonders what’s preventing our heroes from getting their friends back instead of moping. Nice coda to the first decade of the MCU, to be sure, but somehow not as much fun as Infinity War. I saw his film only once in the theaters and the reason why is that it bummed me out. I bought the DVD the first day of its release and plan to maybe watch on Labor Day. I agree that I liked the first part better than this one. I'm guessing the reason why they can't bring them back from the past is because they don't want to. No real reason because the writers set the rules. In the comics genre, you can't change the past, you only create a separate timeline. That makes more sense to me. Cap as an old man at the end? Blah, blah blah. I will say that the best part of the movie is that using the Gauntlet has a price . Thanos became sick, the Hulk was injured and Tony died using it. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 24, 2019 16:42:23 GMT -5
I finally just saw Avengers Endgame. I enjoyed it a lot, certainly epic, and I did love that they had humor to offset the grimness. I do have some dumb questions, though.
For instance, where did the final battle take place? I thought that they were in Avengers headquarters, or some other such building, probably in New York or maybe Washington when Thanos attacked them, but then the battlefield looked more like the moon, plus, the Wakandan army showed up, but where the heck is the US army? You'd expect them to at least make an appearance with a major military operation happening near a major US city, unless I'm mistaken about the location of the battle. I also wonder how Captain Marvel know what was going down, if she's presumable out helping some other plant. I haven't been seeing many movies since I have young kids and my wife stopped seeing movies (plus I live in a new city where I don't really know anybody) so I had no idea that Pepper was an Iron Woman. I was wondering, "who's the chick in the Iron Man armor"?
I had another dumb question, but I've already forgotten it.  |
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Post by rberman on Dec 24, 2019 17:29:01 GMT -5
I finally just saw Avengers Endgame. I enjoyed it a lot, certainly epic, and I did love that they had humor to offset the grimness. I do have some dumb questions, though. You are correct about the location. It was just devastated by Thanos' strike. It's also way out in the country, perhaps not near an army base, and anyway what would the army do? They didn't help in the original Avengers movie either, when Manhattan suffered an alien invasion. Pepper's final appearance was set up by detals of the scene at Stark's cabin in the woods. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 24, 2019 17:40:02 GMT -5
I finally just saw Avengers Endgame. I enjoyed it a lot, certainly epic, and I did love that they had humor to offset the grimness. I do have some dumb questions, though. You are correct about the location. It was just devastated by Thanos' strike. It's also way out in the country, perhaps not near an army base, and anyway what would the army do? They didn't help in the original Avengers movie either, when Manhattan suffered an alien invasion. Pepper's final appearance was set up by detals of the scene at Stark's cabin in the woods. Thanks for the info. Sure, the US army isn't going to defeat Thanos' army, but is the Wankandan army really going to do all that much better? And shouldn't they at least try, considering there's a very hostile for right on home soil? Obviously, they'd be sort of unnecessary to the story, I guess, and maybe that's the real reason, whereas the Wakandan army has an Avenger as their leader, whereas the US army doesn't have any Avengers and thus isn't too relevant to an Avengers movie. |
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Post by rberman on Dec 24, 2019 18:12:35 GMT -5
You are correct about the location. It was just devastated by Thanos' strike. It's also way out in the country, perhaps not near an army base, and anyway what would the army do? They didn't help in the original Avengers movie either, when Manhattan suffered an alien invasion. Pepper's final appearance was set up by detals of the scene at Stark's cabin in the woods. Thanks for the info. Sure, the US army isn't going to defeat Thanos' army, but is the Wankandan army really going to do all that much better? And shouldn't they at least try, considering there's a very hostile for right on home soil? Obviously, they'd be sort of unnecessary to the story, I guess, and maybe that's the real reason, whereas the Wakandan army has an Avenger as their leader, whereas the US army doesn't have any Avengers and thus isn't too relevant to an Avengers movie. It could have been an opportunity for a Thunderbolt Ross cameo I suppose. |
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Post by badwolf on Dec 24, 2019 18:33:47 GMT -5
I haven't been seeing many movies since I have young kids and my wife stopped seeing movies (plus I live in a new city where I don't really know anybody) so I had no idea that Pepper was an Iron Woman. I was wondering, "who's the chick in the Iron Man armor"? Pepper wore the armor in the third IM movie. :/ |
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Post by dbutler69 on Dec 25, 2019 8:29:43 GMT -5
I haven't been seeing many movies since I have young kids and my wife stopped seeing movies (plus I live in a new city where I don't really know anybody) so I had no idea that Pepper was an Iron Woman. I was wondering, "who's the chick in the Iron Man armor"? Pepper wore the armor in the third IM movie. :/ Thanks. Sadly, I still haven't seen that movie. I kinda suspected that that was the case. |
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