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Post by rberman on May 11, 2019 5:49:11 GMT -5
Probably the biggest plot hole was how little Thanos used the individual stones. In the first movie he effortlessly disabled all the guardians with the reality stone alone. He could have done the same to the Avengers. Or used the Time stone to undo any little victory. Or used the mind stone to have Thor or Hulk kill everyone, etc.
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Post by tarkintino on May 11, 2019 9:00:55 GMT -5
Probably the biggest plot hole was how little Thanos used the individual stones. In the first movie he effortlessly disabled all the guardians with the reality stone alone. He could have done the same to the Avengers. Or used the Time stone to undo any little victory. Or used the mind stone to have Thor or Hulk kill everyone, etc. Plot convenience again. The stones rarely worked in any consistent manner--just like the powers of other characters. Take Mjolnir-wielding Cap: he commended the same lightning strikes as Thor, yet he did not unleash its full power on Thanos as a first strike, instead choosing to hit him in the face? In the first Avengers movie, Thor used the hammer's lightning to destroy several of the Chitauri Leviathans emerging from the portal (using the Empire State Building as a lightning rod?), so its an astoundingly destructive weapon, one that by all rights, should have been the first--and final strike on Thanos. ...but there's that plot conveniences and inconsistency again.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 19:09:03 GMT -5
I saw it again, and this time ... I did not care for it and I walked out hour earlier to talk to my friend Jeff and he told me this is the worst Avengers movie that came out because of the inconsistency that surrounding Thanos and he did not care for it at all. I'm not getting the DVD at all; and I that the last time that I'll see it.
BTW, Jeff and I saw it together and he got passes for it.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on May 15, 2019 4:48:30 GMT -5
One thing I noticed during the final battle with Thanos: When he was wearing the Infinity Gauntlet with all 6 stones he was not strong enough to hurt Captain Marvel. He had to take one of the stones out of the gauntlet to increase his physical strength. So having the gauntlet may have made him more powerful overall, but it did not make him punch harder. Any infinity stone that can make him punch harder has to be used in a specific way.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 15, 2019 5:45:22 GMT -5
Put me down as another person who HATED fat out of shape Thor. They made the Strongest Avengers a basket Case.
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Post by brutalis on May 15, 2019 7:46:26 GMT -5
Put me down as another person who HATED fat out of shape Thor. They made the Strongest Avengers a basket Case. How many of us "regular" folks could handle ALL that Thor endured over the last 3 movies from Ragnarok on? Father dies. Mother killed. Hammer destroyed. Most of Asgard (and his friends) killed. Then many more killed by Thanos arrival. Supposedly see his brother (last surviving family member) killed right before his eyes. Unable to defeat Thanos to seeing half the universe gone in a snap. Pretty damn overwhelming emotionally life altering moments if only one of those had happened. But all together? That in the end he actually does fight the good fight and chooses to listen to his mothers final words of wisdom and leaves to space the Guardians shows he is on the road to recovery...
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Post by rberman on May 15, 2019 7:50:05 GMT -5
We are supposed to hate Thor being a basket case, and root for him to snap out of it.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 15, 2019 8:05:07 GMT -5
It’s a little to “real” for my favorite hero.
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Post by brutalis on May 15, 2019 8:38:37 GMT -5
It’s a little to “real” for my favorite hero. Thanos must be using the Reality stone again and you are feeling it AND I still detest calling them stones. They are and always will be GEMS to me from all my days of reading comic books. The Elders of the Universe don't wear stones on their foreheads. Don't care what the movies want to call them, they are INFINITY GEMS End of pet peeve/rant session. You may continue...
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Post by badwolf on May 15, 2019 9:37:55 GMT -5
I saw it again, and this time ... I did not care for it and I walked out hour earlier to talk to my friend Jeff and he told me this is the worst Avengers movie that came out because of the inconsistency that surrounding Thanos and he did not care for it at all. I'm not getting the DVD at all; and I that the last time that I'll see it. BTW, Jeff and I saw it together and he got passes for it.Yeah, it's definitely not one I'd watch again. The only Avengers movie I own is the first one.
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Post by badwolf on May 15, 2019 9:39:01 GMT -5
I don't mind Thor suffering PTSD (as Brutalis points out, it makes sense), but I didn't like that it was played so much for comic effect.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 12:21:22 GMT -5
It’s a little to “real” for my favorite hero. But wasn't that the whole shtick Stan brought to super-heroes with the Marvel Age, heroes with real feet of clay, heroes with failings they overcome to be heroes anyway? To me the Thor arc in the movies is pretty much the epitome of that Marvel ideal. -M
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 12:22:48 GMT -5
It’s a little to “real” for my favorite hero. Thanos must be using the Reality stone again and you are feeling it AND I still detest calling them stones. They are and always will be GEMS to me from all my days of reading comic books. The Elders of the Universe don't wear stones on their foreheads. Don't care what the movies want to call them, they are INFINITY GEMS End of pet peeve/rant session. You may continue... but gems are simply precious stones, but they are still stones. -M
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Post by Randle-El on May 15, 2019 12:53:46 GMT -5
It’s a little to “real” for my favorite hero. But wasn't that the whole shtick Stan brought to super-heroes with the Marvel Age, heroes with real feet of clay, heroes with failings they overcome to be heroes anyway? To me the Thor arc in the movies is pretty much the epitome of that Marvel ideal. -M Agreed. I think it's especially subversive and clever that they did it with the one Avenger who is considered to be a "god".
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:08:02 GMT -5
At my LCS and they took a poll whether they liked this movie or not and about 60 percent of the members have more "negatives" than "positives" about it and about 25% did not care for it at all.
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