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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 21, 2019 22:32:16 GMT -5
If it leads to some of the Español Spider-Hombre being published in English it's all worth it really.  There were some original Japanese Spider-Man comics in the '70s or '80s too, but I think they did print some of it in a U.S. magazine once. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 21, 2019 23:27:01 GMT -5
We have a nice collection of minds here and it's certainly possible that we DID come up with certain topics and threads that other forums have chosen to borrow. We don't carry anyone's water. Remember, we were part of the other forum and , I believe, the most knowledgeable part.
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Post by berkley on Feb 22, 2019 3:12:19 GMT -5
I might have misunderstood the give and take about other sites but I saw Brian Cronin's name mentioned and just wanted to say that, though never a close acquaintance, I do remember him from the old CBR days and my impression is that he's a real good guy, very conscientious, and wouldn't knowingly do the wrong thing in any given set of circumstances. Of course, no one's perfect and anyone can make a mistake or commit an oversight. If anyone thinks that that's happened, I'm sure if they communicated with him he'd be grateful for having it brought to his attention.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 22, 2019 11:23:40 GMT -5
I'm an outsider to all that, I've had problems sometimes with some comic centered websites loading (possibly some of the ads), especially 'bleeding cool', and CBR is one which works sometimes for me and doesn't others. I mostly use the fan wikia or comicvine for issue by issue info or to see cover art, so those and CCF are most of all I ever read, and JBF. I was picking up on recent comments of how the other sites appear to suddenly discover things after things have been posted about here and thought maybe this was an example. The only Mexican/Spanish Spider-Man comics I personally ever remember having were '60s Romita reprints with ads for similar '60s X-Men and Fantastic Four titles and b&w inside.
Thanks to CBR and the sites they do credit we can see a lot more of the covers and interiors and these stories are definitely looking worth learning more about!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 15:54:13 GMT -5
There are British Spider-Man comics that have never made it across the pond as well. As a Brit, it's disgraceful that I don't know about these. Perhaps I did, but nothing comes to mind. Do you have any further info, please? |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 22, 2019 16:18:19 GMT -5
There are British Spider-Man comics that have never made it across the pond as well. As a Brit, it's disgraceful that I don't know about these. Perhaps I did, but nothing comes to mind. Do you have any further info, please? I...uh... could be wrong? I thought that America didn't quite produce enough material to fill the British Spider-Man weekly for a short while. My half-remembered source on this is Back Issue Magazine # 83, but I can't find my copy. |
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Post by String on Feb 22, 2019 16:35:02 GMT -5
Hm, yes, they do sound very intriguing and worth a read.
However, I'm curious (for I don't know all that much about the specifics of licensing characters overseas) but wouldn't they have needed tacit approval from Marvel first before heading down this creative path? Marvel owns this work regardless right? Or because of the original nature of this work, it's more the property of the Mexican publishers?
It seems more like a genuine curiosity to me than anything.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 22, 2019 17:22:19 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the Mexican publisher had a financial agreement with Marvel that allowed their writing and drawing their version. I'm sure that Marvel owns the finished product.
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 22, 2019 17:24:11 GMT -5
According to the tweet chain, the artist for these Mexican issues said that the Mexican publisher flew to New York and got permission from Marvel to do these issues.
I don't know if this was true of the Sgt. Fury (or other titles) that they also did, but that's what he said about the Spider-man book, anyway.
That does raise an interesting question about whether or not these stories are "in continuity." The British comics that were never reprinted in America, like Captain Britain, are all apparently in continuity even if rarely referenced. So if the Mexican comics were all approved by Marvel...
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Post by chaykinstevens on Feb 22, 2019 17:45:46 GMT -5
As a Brit, it's disgraceful that I don't know about these. Perhaps I did, but nothing comes to mind. Do you have any further info, please? Spider-Man fought Assassin-8 in a UK-originated storyline in Spider-Man #607-610 by Mike Collins, Barry Kitson, Mark Farmer and Jerry Paris, dating from 1984. Apparently they were were considering switching to original material in case reprints featuring Spider-Man's black costume proved unpopular.  In the mid-90s, Panini's series Spectacular Spider-Man Adventures,featured some new stories, including a team-up with Captain Britain inked by John Stokes. I picked up a paperback book collecting some of these stories, but have never read it.  I think when Disney took over Marvel they prohibited overseas publishers from producing original material featuring their characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 18:32:57 GMT -5
Thanks for those. Bloody Disney and their controlling nature!  |
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Post by Pat T on Feb 22, 2019 20:06:27 GMT -5
I'm an outsider to all that, I've had problems sometimes with some comic centered websites loading (possibly some of the ads), especially 'bleeding cool', and CBR is one which works sometimes for me and doesn't others. I mostly use the fan wikia or comicvine for issue by issue info or to see cover art, so those and CCF are most of all I ever read, and JBF. I was picking up on recent comments of how the other sites appear to suddenly discover things after things have been posted about here and thought maybe this was an example. The only Mexican/Spanish Spider-Man comics I personally ever remember having were '60s Romita reprints with ads for similar '60s X-Men and Fantastic Four titles and b&w inside. Thanks to CBR and the sites they do credit we can see a lot more of the covers and interiors and these stories are definitely looking worth learning more about! FYI, CBR was once the best comic site on the internet. The boards were always very active, and there was good content. They restructured in 2014 and wiped out everybody's comment history, and took away some specialty forums (Classic Comics, for instance). At first, they were unwilling to budge on any changes they had made, so a couple of industrious posters created the Classic Comics Forum. Besides the people who left CBR for this site, there was a large exodus of members who never signed back up. Although their boards still have more activity than anywhere else, most of the threads are character appreciation. It took a little while, but CBR has become a shadow of what it was. I have to admit that people had gotten pretty vile toward each other before the reset. Now they ban anybody who stirs the pot at all. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 22, 2019 20:24:47 GMT -5
I'm an outsider to all that, I've had problems sometimes with some comic centered websites loading (possibly some of the ads), especially 'bleeding cool', and CBR is one which works sometimes for me and doesn't others. I mostly use the fan wikia or comicvine for issue by issue info or to see cover art, so those and CCF are most of all I ever read, and JBF. I was picking up on recent comments of how the other sites appear to suddenly discover things after things have been posted about here and thought maybe this was an example. The only Mexican/Spanish Spider-Man comics I personally ever remember having were '60s Romita reprints with ads for similar '60s X-Men and Fantastic Four titles and b&w inside. Thanks to CBR and the sites they do credit we can see a lot more of the covers and interiors and these stories are definitely looking worth learning more about! FYI, CBR was once the best comic site on the internet. The boards were always very active, and there was good content. They restructured in 2014 and wiped out everybody's comment history, and took away some specialty forums (Classic Comics, for instance). At first, they were unwilling to budge on any changes they had made, so a couple of industrious posters created the Classic Comics Forum. Besides the people who left CBR for this site, there was a large exodus of members who never signed back up. Although their boards still have more activity than anywhere else, most of the threads are character appreciation. It took a little while, but CBR has become a shadow of what it was. I have to admit that people had gotten pretty vile toward each other before the reset. Now they ban anybody who stirs the pot at all. it's too bad that it became what it is, but people became pretty surly before the reset. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 22, 2019 21:27:39 GMT -5
I'm an outsider to all that, I've had problems sometimes with some comic centered websites loading (possibly some of the ads), especially 'bleeding cool', and CBR is one which works sometimes for me and doesn't others. I mostly use the fan wikia or comicvine for issue by issue info or to see cover art, so those and CCF are most of all I ever read, and JBF. I was picking up on recent comments of how the other sites appear to suddenly discover things after things have been posted about here and thought maybe this was an example. The only Mexican/Spanish Spider-Man comics I personally ever remember having were '60s Romita reprints with ads for similar '60s X-Men and Fantastic Four titles and b&w inside. Thanks to CBR and the sites they do credit we can see a lot more of the covers and interiors and these stories are definitely looking worth learning more about! FYI, CBR was once the best comic site on the internet. The boards were always very active, and there was good content. They restructured in 2014 and wiped out everybody's comment history, and took away some specialty forums (Classic Comics, for instance). At first, they were unwilling to budge on any changes they had made, so a couple of industrious posters created the Classic Comics Forum. Besides the people who left CBR for this site, there was a large exodus of members who never signed back up. Although their boards still have more activity than anywhere else, most of the threads are character appreciation. It took a little while, but CBR has become a shadow of what it was. I have to admit that people had gotten pretty vile toward each other before the reset. Now they ban anybody who stirs the pot at all. I only reignited my stoke for any mainstream comics a few years ago, so after 2014. Between 1986-87 until then I subsisted on reading a select few things like any new Beanworld books, Bone, Elfquest, Xenozoic Tales, and Go Girl (partly to support comics for girls), and a few Japanese reprint collections of Tezuka. Thanks for this info! It was the X-Men: The Hidden Years series that broke the ice between me and superhero comics finally. I'm thinking the Mexican Spider-Man would be something along those same lines though actually created back then. Spider-Man: The Hidden Years?  |
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Post by String on Feb 23, 2019 16:51:26 GMT -5
As a Brit, it's disgraceful that I don't know about these. Perhaps I did, but nothing comes to mind. Do you have any further info, please? Spider-Man fought Assassin-8 in a UK-originated storyline in Spider-Man #607-610 by Mike Collins, Barry Kitson, Mark Farmer and Jerry Paris, dating from 1984. Apparently they were were considering switching to original material in case reprints featuring Spider-Man's black costume proved unpopular. In the mid-90s, Panini's series Spectacular Spider-Man Adventures,featured some new stories, including a team-up with Captain Britain inked by John Stokes. I picked up a paperback book collecting some of these stories, but have never read it. I think when Disney took over Marvel they prohibited overseas publishers from producing original material featuring their characters. Wait, did Red Skull just use a Cosmic Cube to become Red Hulk? |
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