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Post by brianf on Oct 16, 2019 22:01:19 GMT -5
I liked it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 24, 2019 21:11:36 GMT -5
Just saw the Joker movie. Good, but disturbing and difficult to watch him get abused for the first half of the film. The film maker manipulates the audience with sympathizing with him and routing for him to get even. It bares little resemblance to the Joker from the DC cinematic versions and you really couldn't see him being a mastermind like in The Dark Knight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 21:25:46 GMT -5
Just saw the Joker movie. Good, but disturbing and difficult to watch him get abused for the first half of the film. The film maker manipulates the audience with sympathizing with him and routing for him to get even. It bares little resemblance to the Joker from the DC cinematic versions and you really couldn't see him being a mastermind like in The Dark Knight. I haven't seen it; but a friend of mine sent me an email about it and this is pretty much what he told me. They went to another direction and sadly he did not like this movie at all. |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 17, 2019 23:22:07 GMT -5
loved it
An amazing insight into what kind of a scenario could have broken a man like this
My g/f was disturbed and not as enthused but being rated R the movie was able to explore more of the background of what could have been / was ? and gave you a more sympathetic view on how such a monster could come into existence
Magnificent and I will definitely get the extended version later
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 7:26:59 GMT -5
I totally agree with Icctrombone comments and I was too disturbed by it and I just watched late last night at a friend's place and I disagree that the movie was good; it was more bad than good. I just don't care the "angle" of this movie and I just find it not a typical Joker movie at all and does not fit my profile of the character itself. I just had a hard time enjoying it and I also echo hondobrode girlfriend comments and that's where I'm taking a stand on this movie. I saw it once and not bothering to see any sequel at all. Joaquin Phoenix is no Heath Ledger and Jack Nicholson ... to me Mr. Phoenix is too flashy and too stylish to be the Joker. I just had a hard time enjoying ... Sorry. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jan 4, 2020 14:04:33 GMT -5
To each his own.
It was dark and disturbing to be sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 16:38:34 GMT -5
Wow. That was an experience and Phoenix was stellar. I don't know that I would want to watch again anytime soon, but just wow. What a slow, tense build. Really good but man, it was tense. I really sat on the edge of my couch...waiting for everything to explode. Loved that this one was a character piece. But the thing I love about DC the most is that there is so much room for all the different interpretations of the characters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 9:45:29 GMT -5
it just picked up 11 Oscar Nominations this morning.
including Picture, Director, Actor. . etc. .
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 17, 2020 0:24:40 GMT -5
it just picked up 11 Oscar Nominations this morning. including Picture, Director, Actor. . etc. . That implies that somebody cares, I guess. |
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Post by badwolf on Jan 23, 2020 12:47:11 GMT -5
Finally saw it this past weekend and thought it was fantastic. It's definitely a different take on the character, but on its own it works great.
Alan Moore and Brian Bolland (and a few other creators I forget) are thanked at the end of the credits. I can see how some elements were taken from The Killing Joke (the flashback part).
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Post by rberman on Jun 13, 2020 20:36:09 GMT -5
I watched this last night with my girlfriend and thought it is a really well made film and that Joaquin Phoenix gives an exceptional performance. I can see why people gave this a standing ovation at whatever film festival it premiered. If it wasn't connected to the Batman mythos it would still be an interesting film in its own right. It's commentary on how we treat the mentally ill is very poignant. It also echoes the themes of income inequality and classism that I think will also resonate with people as Joker's first slaying inspires protests similar to the Occupy Movement. I understand why people might worry about this film though as it does an adequate job of trying to get the audience to empathize with Arthur Peck as he is constantly being let down by the society around him, from violence in the streets to the health care system failing to continue his medication and therapy. His delusions and transformation remind me of a lot of others films as some have mentioned already. There are parallels to Scorsese's The King of Comedy (1982) and Taxi Driver (1976), Phoenix's physical performance reminded me of the Francis Dolarhyde character in the Thomas Harris novel Red Dragon. There's literally a disturbing transformation that goes on before our eyes that's pretty scary. Finally saw it last night. I was unprepared for how much of it was taken from those two Scorsese films. As in, everything but the Bruce Wayne stuff. You could tell they were trying to make Papa Wayne look like Alec Baldwin, who had to pass on the role. The film was written so that Phoenix could play a guy becoming some psycho supervillain, and after debate (and complaints from Jared Leto), they pinned the story on Joker, which honestly was the best choice despite his overexposure, because (1) he has no powers or even expertise, and (2) he's cray-cray. They specifically avoided linking their work to comic books, with the notable exceptions of (1) Arkham, (2) The Wayne-related material and (3) Joker mentioning having "a bad day," which is a reference to Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke," which provided that story nugget but little else. They lost my suspension of disbelief twice. Once when the wealthy Waynes took their chld to see "Zorro the Gay Blade" for family night. Once when the clearly dangerous Joker was left with a female interviewer in a holding room, alone and cuffed but not chained to the desk. The best parts were (1) the 1981 setting, though I'm surprised they could afford a VCR. (2) Robert DeNiro as Johnny Carson; (3) Joaquin Phoenix earned his Oscar. Apart from the weight loss and facial acting, he gave a very credible portrayal of the medical condition of chorea, presumably a side effect of the boatload of antipsychotic medicines that Arthur Fleck was taking. However, I think future generations will have difficulty seeing how this became the top grossing R-rated film of all time. I guess the overseas market really liked it. Fun fact: They spent 55 million making the film but 120 million marketing and distributing it. |
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