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Post by chaykinstevens on Aug 31, 2019 16:27:57 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 44- The Mad Pharaoh TOS #44 originally misspelt pharaoh as pharoah. I much prefer the original colouring. GCD says the British reprint in Creepy Worlds #68 used an unaltered stat of the original cover artwork. link
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 31, 2019 17:23:37 GMT -5
ToS #45 was one of my most prized silver age comics... I found it really fascinating and it was pretty cool that the earliest Iron Man I ever had also marked a first (Happy and Pepper). I probably can't be objective about it... but I'm glad it at least rates a C. I remember thinking how cool it seemed to have a comic from the same month as Avengers #1 and X-Men #1. I only ever had one Marvel '60s superhero comic earlier (and it was also by Don Heck).
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 31, 2019 17:31:55 GMT -5
TOS #44 originally misspelt pharaoh as pharoah. I much prefer the original colouring. It looks also as if Cleopatra's expression has been changed from delighted to dismayed. I wonder why.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Sept 1, 2019 15:53:57 GMT -5
It looks also as if Cleopatra's expression has been changed from delighted to dismayed. I wonder why. Well spotted, Phil. She looks dismayed in the Creepy Worlds version, so I guess Stan had Kirby's original drawing retouched to avoid making Iron Man look like a villain. They must have reverted to an un-retouched image when the page was remastered.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 18:17:49 GMT -5
Wanting to bank Cleopatra seems like a pretty good motive to me... even if it's not heroic...the bragging rights alone. It certainly fits with the playboy aspect of his character. Sure, it's not heroic... but at least he has a reason to pick a side.. how often to superheroes jump into a fray and have no idea what's going on only to find out later they were on the wrong side? What I don't like is the time travel.. Tony can't go mucking about with Egyptian history and not mess up the time space continuum! Agree with you on this. captainthor ... Nice Job on the Cleopatra story. That's one of my favorites.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 2, 2019 16:45:23 GMT -5
Sorry guys, annoyingly I had my review of the next issue all typed up... and then it failed to post. I'll be sure to get something up tomorrow to compensate.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 3, 2019 0:39:40 GMT -5
Analysis: This was, in my view, the best issue since ToS 39. I think that adding an extra 5 pages to the story and adding some supporting characters does improve the quality significantly. We also get our first recurring villain in this issue, although it will be a while before Gregor Shapanka returns. The plot was a little bit more developed, the characters felt a bit more well-rounded and I enjoyed the story more than I've enjoyed a few of the previous Silver Age adventures. Yeah, strong agreement. Many of my favorite comics are short story anthologies - Mome, Arcade, Action Girl, Solo, Zap!, heck the original run of Marvel Comics... But I'm not sure the format ever worked for split superhero books. All the absolute stone classics from Tales of Suspense/Astonish or Strange Tales - The extended Ditko Dormammu cycle, the Sleeper and Cosmic Cube storytlines, the Hulk vs. Hercules* were multi-parters. Longer stories just worked better at silver age Marvel. They let the creators spend time establishing setting, relationships between the cast, and allowed for more intricate plotting. (Well, in the Ditko books.) I don't think Stan or Kirby ever really adapted to the short story format, and their shadow was so long that I'm not sure anyone else working for Marvel did better. And isn't it weird how long Iron Man went without any recurring characters that are not Iron Man? Even in the Golden Age super-comics would rarely go that long without establishing some supporting cast. * Well, *I* like it.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 14, 2019 10:12:24 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 46- The Crimson Dynamo Plot: Stan Lee Script: Robert Bernstein Art: Don Heck Lettering: Artie Simek Grade: D
Cover: Synopsis: The issue starts by showing a weapons demonstration from a Soviet scientist, Anton Vanko, to Nikita Khrushchev. This demonstration concerns the Crimson Dynamo armour. The demonstration appears to involve putting Khrushchev in mild danger before saving him with the Dynamo armour. This demonstration also sets up that Khrushchev distrusts Vanko and intends to kill him if he successfully completes his mission to sabotage Tony Stark's industrial facilities and kill Iron Man. The action then shifts to Stark Industries and a missile launch being conducted by Tony. This missile launch goes wrong due to the Dynamo's involvement and Iron Man has to step in to save the day, which he does successfully. However, Iron Man cannot be everywhere at once and the action moves between various successful attempts at sabotage. It is also made clear to Tony that if he fails to fulfill his government contracts due to sabotage, they will be removed and Stark Industries will likely go bankrupt. There are even suspicions that Tony himself is a Communist agent. At this point, Vanko attacks Tony's main facility, hoping to meet and defeat Iron Man and then replace Khrushchev as leader of the Soviet Union. The Dynamo and Iron Man fight. Iron Man traps the Dynamo in a square of fallen trees before faking a message from Khrushchev stating that he was going to betray Vanko almost instantly after Vanko returns home. Vanko decides to defect from the USSR and work at Stark Industries. Analysis: I've got to admit that I'm honestly not the biggest fan of this story. Although I usually like the Crimson Dynamo as a villain, he just doesn't work for me here. And, although I generally think that Silver Age Iron Man fits the espionage/spy genre quite well, this particular story isn't a good example of that in my opinion. My issue here is a simple one and it's to do with the motivations of the main characters in this story. Tonally, the story depicts Tony as the hero and Khrushchev and the Soviets as the main villains. Although the Dynamo is the story's main antagonist I think he's meant to be a shades of grey Communist character. I believe that he is an attempt to add more nuance to Iron Man's rogues gallery. I've always believed that the Crimson Dynamo is meant to be a villainous counterpart to Tony Stark (and the Titanium Man is a villainous counterpart to Iron Man, but more on him in a later issue). In general, when dealing with the Cold War, Marvel depicts the West as the good guys and the Communists as the villains. If Tony is meant to be a flawed hero on the American side of things, Vanko is meant to be a good guy on the wrong side of the Cold War. I could make a strong argument, in future stories, that, in his own way, the Crimson Dynamo is a flawed hero on the Soviet side of the Cold War. Sadly, there is an issue here though. Khrushchev intends to kill Vanko as soon as he returns to the Soviet Union if he successfully completes his mission as he believes Vanko intends to overthrow him. Vanko intends to overthrow Khrushchev if he succeeds. While Tony fakes a message from Khrushchev to persuade Vanko to defect. The reader is clearly meant to think that the Soviet leadership is naturally treacherous so Tony's actions are justified. But the thing is that Khrushchev's right. His paranoia is justified. Vanko DID genuinely intend to overthrow him if he succeeded in his mission. It also undercuts the impact which Vanko's defection is meant to have. I believe that Vanko is meant to be a more complex and nuanced villain. But instead of complex his motivations just don't make sense. We're clearly meant to sympathise with Vanko against Khrushchev. But the fact that Khrushchev's paranoia is justified undercuts this since it means that Vanko also comes across as a treacherous Commie. And that means Vanko's defection comes out of nowhere and makes very little sense. Plus Tony faking the message undercuts the tone of the story, which naturally places Tony as the hero, although this is a minor niggle compared to my issues with Vanko's characterization and motives. If Vanko intends to betray Khrushchev then you can't blame Khrushchev for wanting to remove Vanko as a threat to him. I believe that this story was an attempt at nuanced characterization... but instead you get a mess of motivations which just don't make sense. This is also the first time that Stark Industries almost ends up bankrupt. This is a common Iron Man trope but it's actually one that makes sense for me. It seems clear, to me, that Stark Industries likely relies, at this time, on a small number of highly lucrative government contracts. It's a high-risk, high-reward business strategy. If Tony can complete those contracts on time then he'll make a lot of money very quickly. However, if he fails to complete a couple of contracts, things are going to go downhill for him very quickly and he's going to get into serious financial trouble very quickly. I don't think this was intentional, but I think that this is an occasion where Tony uses bad means to achieve good ends. Him faking the message is not a heroic thing to do but it produces good consequences. Stark Industries is saved and The Crimson Dynamo now helps American efforts in the Cold War. Tony has always been a hero who is willing to compromise on the means to achieve a good end. It's just that you can't do that while, on a tonal level, trying to portray Tony as the golden, shiny Silver Age hero. The issue is also hurt by the fact that Happy and Pepper are a little bit sidelined throughout the story. You see another good example of Happy and Pepper's burgeoning friendship along with more of Pepper's snarky personality. Plus there's a nice moment where Happy and Pepper stand by Tony even though his business is about to go bust, which obviously shows that these three characters are becoming good friends. It's nice that Tony actually has a few new characters to bounce off now, it helps to improve the general quality of the series even though I'm not the biggest fan of this particular story.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 14, 2019 10:13:28 GMT -5
And sorry about the delay in getting this review out, been a busy couple of weeks. Honestly, expect a couple of reviews every weekend for the foreseeable future and nothing during the week most of the time.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 14, 2019 10:20:05 GMT -5
Analysis: This was, in my view, the best issue since ToS 39. I think that adding an extra 5 pages to the story and adding some supporting characters does improve the quality significantly. We also get our first recurring villain in this issue, although it will be a while before Gregor Shapanka returns. The plot was a little bit more developed, the characters felt a bit more well-rounded and I enjoyed the story more than I've enjoyed a few of the previous Silver Age adventures. Yeah, strong agreement. Many of my favorite comics are short story anthologies - Mome, Arcade, Action Girl, Solo, Zap!, heck the original run of Marvel Comics... But I'm not sure the format ever worked for split superhero books. All the absolute stone classics from Tales of Suspense/Astonish or Strange Tales - The extended Ditko Dormammu cycle, the Sleeper and Cosmic Cube storytlines, the Hulk vs. Hercules* were multi-parters. Longer stories just worked better at silver age Marvel. They let the creators spend time establishing setting, relationships between the cast, and allowed for more intricate plotting. (Well, in the Ditko books.) I don't think Stan or Kirby ever really adapted to the short story format, and their shadow was so long that I'm not sure anyone else working for Marvel did better. And isn't it weird how long Iron Man went without any recurring characters that are not Iron Man? Even in the Golden Age super-comics would rarely go that long without establishing some supporting cast. * Well, *I* like it. I largely agree with this, the more time a writer has to explore a storyline, the better in most of these Silver Age stories. Otherwise you often end up with one of those ridiculous Silver Age stories that bounces between one plot point and another so quickly that it's impossible to really make sense of anything that is going on. The more intricate the plotting the better (at least most of the time). It's a little bit odd but it doesn't stand out too much. Tony's always been a bit of a lone wolf. Or, to put it another way, Tony is that guy who seems to be mates with everyone but never seems to be anyone's close friend. I'm sure we can all think of examples of similar people. Tony is meant to be a character with a few emotional issues and this impacts on his relationships and how difficult he finds it to establish a consistent, stable supporting cast of characters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 11:36:19 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 46- The Crimson Dynamo, I'm surprised to see the Grade of D for this issue. It is one of my favorites and Crimson Dynamo is one of my favorite adversary of Iron Man ... captainthorYour write up is excellent.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 14, 2019 15:50:19 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 46- The Crimson Dynamo, I'm surprised to see the Grade of D for this issue. It is one of my favorites and Crimson Dynamo is one of my favorite adversary of Iron Man ... captainthor Your write up is excellent. Oh the Crimson Dynamo is one of my favourite members of Iron Man's rogues gallery too. But I just don't think he's written particularly well here. The character motivations and the tone of the story... I think they were aiming for something and they just didn't achieve it here. And I think it just completely undercuts the entire story for me. I'll admit that I feel like I'm a relatively harsh reviewer when it comes to my grading though so...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 15:56:08 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 46- The Crimson Dynamo, I'm surprised to see the Grade of D for this issue. It is one of my favorites and Crimson Dynamo is one of my favorite adversary of Iron Man ... captainthor Your write up is excellent. Oh the Crimson Dynamo is one of my favourite members of Iron Man's rogues gallery too. But I just don't think he's written particularly well here. The character motivations and the tone of the story... I think they were aiming for something and they just didn't achieve it here. And I think it just completely undercuts the entire story for me. I'll admit that I feel like I'm a relatively harsh reviewer when it comes to my grading though so... No problems and thanks for the follow up!
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 14, 2019 16:48:39 GMT -5
The Cold War espionage bit works better, with Black Widow. Why send a tank to attack Iron Man when you can send a femme fatale to bed the playboy Tony Stark? She gets in, finds his secrets, passes them on to her bosses. Then, you send the Crimson Dynamo to attack him and take advantage of his weaknesses.
Stan had a pretty simplistic view of the Cold War and most international issues and also followed the tradition of talking down to the audience, when it came to real world issues. The more nuanced characterizations did not eliminate the same old cliches. By the same token, Soviet leadership was paranoid and treacherous. Maybe not to Stalin levels; but, power in the Soviet Union meant building blocs of allies against rival factions, either through sheer personality or shrewd politicking. Kruschev got there by a little of both (though if the Germans had been successful at Stalingrad, Kruschev would have been just another casualty of the war, on Stalin's orders).
The Crimson Dynamo suit would have looked even better, had they streamlined Tony's armor, at this point. The Soviet's were known for bulky, less refined technology, especially weapon systems. That fit right in with the time.
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Post by captainthor on Sept 14, 2019 18:28:18 GMT -5
Tales of Suspense 47- The Melter Writer- Stan Lee Pencils- Steve Ditko Inking- Don Heck Lettering- Sam Rosen Grade- C- Cover: Synopsis: The issue begins with yet another weapons demonstration. Tony is designing some new tanks that are defective. Closer inspection reveals that some of the components in the tanks are defective and have melted. Tony then inspects some more components at his plant and finds out that they are defective before being knocked out from behind by a mysterious figure : We then learn a little bit more about our new villain, and our latest addition to Iron Man's Rogues Gallery. His name is Bruno Horgan. He was a weapons manufacturer who was caught using defective equipment by Tony. This caused his firm to lose their defence contracts and, thus, their business. Hence the Melter was really annoyed at Tony and wanted revenge. He accidentally discovered a melting ray which he intends to use against Tony's plants to sabotage him. After being knocked out, Tony moves on upstairs to recharge his heart after nearly dying from heart issues again. Once Tony is recharged he sees an alarm going off in his factory and goes to investigate. He finds the Melter and battles him as Iron Man but loses and is forced to escape. Tony then retreats into his office and bunkers down in crisis mode. Happy and Pepper are around the office to help him but Tony is refusing help from anyone and everyone. Tony is then summoned to a Senate hearing in Washington about whether the growing issues with defective equipment in Tony's company are going to be resolved or not. It is made clear that if Tony does not resolve these issues then he will be out of business after losing his government contracts. Tony is summoned back for a new emergency at his Long Island plant as some equipment has been melted. He changes into a new suit of armour made out of aluminium in order to combat the melting ray. He engages the Melter again and, after protecting Happy and Pepper from falling debris, he defeats the Melter who escapes using the sewers. Analysis: Some of you may be looking at me a bit weirdly for rating this issue above the previous issue. And I get that the Crimson Dynamo story is a classic in many people's eyes. But I'm rating this issue higher because I think that, unlike the previous issue, it achieves what it set out to achieve. This issue is clearly meant to a fun Silver Age story with a fairly straightforward villain and a high level of cornyness. That cornyness is self-aware and it helps the story. The story is, largely, pleasant to read. This does not mean that I don't have my complaints about the story but it does mean that those complaints are more peripheral to the main purpose of the story than my complaints were regarding the previous issue. Let me start by discussing Tony in this story. This is, perhaps, the first time since Vietnam when we really see Tony in full-on crisis mode. Even in the previous story he didn't go into this mode. Tony can isolate himself from people when times are tough. He is susceptible to trying to solve every problem on his own without asking for help from friends. This can be seen here where Happy and Pepper are around to help Tony throughout... and Tony just locks himself in his office to solve the problem. Tony is, despite his playboy lifestyle, actually a bit of a loner at times. It's very natural and in-character for him to resolve to what he perceives to be a major crisis by locking himself away and trying to invent a solution. It also re-introduces a couple of plot points which were established in previous issues. Firstly, as with the previous issue, this issue shows how fragile Tony's business actually is. A few incidents of sabotage and Tony's business is in real trouble. Moreover, Silver Age Tony has to deal with a high level of scrutiny from politicians and public officials due to the importance of his work to the USA. This develops into a bigger plot point once Senator Byrd appears on the scene and really starts to scrutinise Stark Industries and Tony Stark as a person. Secondly, the issue with Tony's heart almost killing him is shoehorned in again in this issue. This plot point becomes very annoying very quickly and it really feels shoehorned in here. It feels like a forced attempt to create pathos for Tony and, for that reason, it completely falls flat as a plot point. These past few issues have also all shown a similar trend. In general, in these stories, Tony has faced a new villain, been beaten by them and then invented something to allow him to defeat an opponent. This shows an important plot point about Tony. He is, in my opinion, the greatest inventor in comics. He is also one of the best strategists in comics. He is also a very good tactician, even if he doesn't match someone like Steve Rogers or Bruce Wayne in this regard. I'm bringing this up because, in my opinion, if Tony is given time to prepare for a fight he is an extremely dangerous opponent. He's a good enough inventor to create something to defeat an opponent and he's also shrewd enough to know how to use it. The Iron Man suit is very powerful but Tony's greatest strength in a head-to-head is his flexibility. If he doesn't already have the solution to defeating you, then he will probably invent it if he knows you're coming and has time to prepare for it. We also see a bit of corporate CEO Tony here as, after the Melter's attack, he immediately arrives on the scene to bark out orders. It's important to remember that Tony is still the type of guy who runs a successful company and he is definitely harsh enough and tough enough to survive in that world. Tony can be harsh at times to other people and it's important to remember the successful CEO aspect of his character when judging him as a character. The Melter is a very simple villain. Tony ruined his career. The Melter wants vengeance. There's not really much more to him as a villain. He is also a somewhat corny villain, although it seems likely that he was intended to be that way by Stan Lee. In general he's a simple villain who suits a fairly simple plot and story. It works but it's not particularly exceptional. However, my main issue with the story is that we're meant to believe that Tony is in full-on crisis mode in this story. Yet... does the Melter really warrant that response? He has a cumbersome melting ray that can literally melt one material (iron). He just doesn't seem like he's enough of a threat to warrant it. But this isn't a huge issue for me as I do accept that he is designed to be a corny, lame villain so I get why these character aspects are in the story. And I did appreciate the impact that a full-on crisis had on Tony and what this reveals about his personality and character. The Melter is obviously one of the lamer members of Iron Man's rogues gallery but I think he actually works acceptably here as a cheesy supervillain in a cheesy plot. Finally, I again appreciate the role which Happy and Pepper play in fleshing out Stark Industries and making it feel alive. The two of them are still stuck in a flirting pattern at the moment, but a few of Pepper's lines really made me laugh in this one. I actually really like Silver Age Pepper, I find her an interesting Silver Age female character which is a rare feeling. I also enjoy them rallying around Stark every time he has a crisis (which seems to happen, like, every day). Overall, an enjoyable simple story which nets a suitable grade for that reason.
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