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Post by foxley on May 14, 2020 1:25:29 GMT -5
Dr. Fate. When I was 6 or 7, my parents gave me a copy of the Famous First Edition reprint of All Star Comics #3 for my birthday. That comic made a huge impact on me and is one of the reasons I am a comics fan to this day. As a result, all of the original JSA have a huge resonance with me. That includes Dr. Fate.
(And the Dr. Fate story in that issue is a seriously weird read when you're 6 or 7. I wonder what kids back in the day made of it.)
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Post by hondobrode on May 17, 2020 21:19:11 GMT -5
Super tough call here, but I agree with adamwarlock2099 that I like the Dr Fate character better, but Dr Strange has way more stories, and some of them are quite good as others have stated.
I didn't read the latest Levitz version, but I generally like his work and may pick up the run sometime on sale.
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Post by berkley on May 17, 2020 21:31:09 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe it's just my ignorance of things DC in general but I'm not aware of any classic Dr. Fate series or runs like the Ditko or Englehart Strange, or favourite artists like Colan or Brunner being associated with the character. If there are any classic Dr. Fate runs or even single issues I'd like to check them out, depending on the creators involved. The first half dozen Doc Fate stories in More Fun by Fox and Sherman are a tour de force in Lovecraftian storytelling that put the efforts in Doc Strange to evoke Lovecraft to shame, but Sherman's art is typical golden age far. The one shot in First Issue Special #9 is perhaps my second favorite Doc Fate story overall, cover by Joe Kubert, story by Martin Pasko art by Walt Simonson. The back ups that ran in Flash (and collected in Immortal Dr. Fate #2 and 3) by Pasko and Keith Giffen are also very, very good. I am also fond of the initial arc on the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League in which Fate and his myths figure prominently (The Grey Man was an interesting concept/villain). And lastly, the Darwyn Cooke Dr. Fate story from JSA All Stars #3 is simply perfection... it is reprinted in the Art of Darwyn Cooke volumes DC did as well. -M
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for those. Have the Fox/Sherman stories been collected or reprinted anywhere? I'm assuming back issues of More Fun itself will be prohibitively expensive, by my standards.
Have you seen any of that unfortunately truncated Gerber run? I liked where it seemed to be going but it was really too early to judge what it might have become had Gerber lived long enough to see it through.
(edit:) From comics.org, looks like the Fox/Sherman stories have been reprinted only in only in the Golden Age Droctor Fate Archives.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 22:19:38 GMT -5
The first half dozen Doc Fate stories in More Fun by Fox and Sherman are a tour de force in Lovecraftian storytelling that put the efforts in Doc Strange to evoke Lovecraft to shame, but Sherman's art is typical golden age far. The one shot in First Issue Special #9 is perhaps my second favorite Doc Fate story overall, cover by Joe Kubert, story by Martin Pasko art by Walt Simonson. The back ups that ran in Flash (and collected in Immortal Dr. Fate #2 and 3) by Pasko and Keith Giffen are also very, very good. I am also fond of the initial arc on the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League in which Fate and his myths figure prominently (The Grey Man was an interesting concept/villain). And lastly, the Darwyn Cooke Dr. Fate story from JSA All Stars #3 is simply perfection... it is reprinted in the Art of Darwyn Cooke volumes DC did as well. -M Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for those. Have the Fox/Sherman stories been collected or reprinted anywhere? I'm assuming back issues of More Fun itself will be prohibitively expensive, by my standards.
Have you seen any of that unfortunately truncated Gerber run? I liked where it seemed to be going but it was really too early to judge what it might have become had Gerber lived long enough to see it through. (edit:) From comics.org, looks like the Fox/Sherman stories have been reprinted only in only in the Golden Age Droctor Fate Archives.
Yes the Archives is the only complte collction of the Fox/Sherman stuff. I still see copies of it at MSRP out there though. I've picked up the issues of the Gerber run in Countdown to Mystery, but haven't yet read that or the Helmet of Fate one-shots. I did read the DCYou Levitz series with Sonny Liew on art and quite liked it, but it is essentially a different character. Enjoyable, but not the Kent Nelson Fate (though Nelson does appear in it for a couple of issues). The post Justice League Dr. Date mini and ongoing are uneven. DeMatteis writes the mini (with Giffen co-plotting and doing art) and it is a visual treat, but I am less fond of the Eric and Linda Strauss characters introduced there than I am of the Nelsons. The ongoing starts with DeMatteis and it is more a treatise on his personal philosophy than a Doctor Fate story at times (it has more in common thematically with things he did like Brooklyn Dreams and Seekers into the Mystery than it does his other mainstream super-hero work). The Messner-Loebs run that followed I liked better at the time it came out but it still wasn't what I was hoping for in a Fate story. I haven't revisited that stuff in a lot of years though (I intend to soon), so I am not sure how I would feel about them now. The five issue mini form the early 2000s by Sniegowski & Golden is quite good, but again not about Kent Nelson, but features Hector Hall as Doctor Fate as did the Johns JSA run. The 90s attempt to modernize the character with Jared Stevens as Fate are a different animal as well. I like them for what they are, though the come off a a little too 90ish extreme despite Giffen's involvement in the second series, but it never really feels like a Doctor Fate story. -M |
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Post by brutalis on May 18, 2020 8:05:31 GMT -5
This week Which One will you choose? Autobot or Decepticon as your favorite Transformer?
This is a tough one even for me and on any day either side can chosen. More often than not though I go with Decepticon as for me they seemed to have much better designs and elements. Whether it was their robotic form or the vehicle's they transformed into, they must have had better scanners because they got many of the cool stuff. Jets, Trains, insects, space shuttle and actual weapons. While the Autobots have some cool vehicles and got better designs down the line along with the addition of Dinobots and Beast Wars, in those early toys and cartoons the Decepticon's had the edge for me. Outside of buying an Optimus Prime when Transformers hit, it was the bad guys I was grabbing up and enjoying the most. Megatorn, Shockwave, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, Ramjet, Thrust, Dirge, Soundwave and his cassette warriors, Insecticons, Constructions, Combaticons, Predacons, then after the movie came out: Galvatron, Cyclonus, Blitzwing, Astrotrain and Octane.
Now it's your turn to Transform and Roll Out your choice...
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 8:55:06 GMT -5
I'm out on this week's topic. I don't think I've watched 5 minutes combined of any of the Transformers cartoons or movies and have never read a Transformers comic nor owned a Transformers toy.
I'll add this bit of trivia though-had Mego not gone out of business, Transformers would have been a Mego sister line to Micronauts as they came form the same Japanese company and Marvel would never have been involved in the development (so it would just have been a toy line of interchangeable toys like Micronauts and none of the characters most know that were developed by Marvel's creative staff would exist). As Mego was going out, Abrams made the introductions for the Japanese firm with people at Hasbro he knew leading to Transformers going there.
-M
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Post by impulse on May 18, 2020 9:30:32 GMT -5
Easy. Autobots!! Optimus Prime for life, and they had the Dinobots. Transforming robot dinosaurs that could fly and shoot lasers? To kid me there was nothing conceivably as cool in the universe.
The Decepticons had Devastator which I admit was really cool, but they were otherwise a bunch of bickering incompetents.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 18, 2020 9:40:43 GMT -5
More of a Maximals from Beast Wars person honestly
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 18, 2020 10:20:35 GMT -5
You can add me to the "none of the above" group. I was 16 or 17 before Transformers ever became a thing and at that time I had no interest in new toys. I haven't generated any interest in the interim.
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Post by impulse on May 18, 2020 10:38:22 GMT -5
You can add me to the "none of the above" group. I was 16 or 17 before Transformers ever became a thing and at that time I had no interest in new toys. I haven't generated any interest in the interim. Without nostalgia goggles, you're not missing much regarding any of the new movies. Only the first one was passable even with nostalgia. In fairness, I hear Bumblebee is good but I can't be arsed to see it. |
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Post by Confessor on May 18, 2020 10:47:35 GMT -5
I never got into the Transformers. Even when I was in the target demographic I thought they sucked.
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Post by The Captain on May 18, 2020 12:19:29 GMT -5
I missed last week's topic, which would have to be Doctor Strange for me, as I have never read a Dr. Fate story in my life and quite possibly couldn't pick him out of a lineup (he's the one that sort of looks like Dr. Bong, with the gold helmet, right?)
As for this week, I will echo a number of other posters in that this was just a little bit after my time. I think my grandmother got me a couple of them for my birthday or Christmas one year because she thought they looked like something I might like, but that ship had sailed. I've never read any of the comics from any publisher, and I have had no desire to watch any of the movies, even for free on cable.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 19, 2020 18:24:44 GMT -5
I missed last week's topic, which would have to be Doctor Strange for me, as I have never read a Dr. Fate story in my life and quite possibly couldn't pick him out of a lineup (he's the one that sort of looks like Dr. Bong, with the gold helmet, right?) As for this week, I will echo a number of other posters in that this was just a little bit after my time. I think my grandmother got me a couple of them for my birthday or Christmas one year because she thought they looked like something I might like, but that ship had sailed. I've never read any of the comics from any publisher, and I have had no desire to watch any of the movies, even for free on cable. Dr. Fate has one of the coolest looks with that Helmut. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 18:32:17 GMT -5
Neither scores high marks on my reading list so I guess I'm neutral.
I did like DC Comics Presents 23 though.
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Post by brutalis on May 26, 2020 8:08:54 GMT -5
Having made a joke in another thread you can "blame" this weeks Which One on my man Icctrombone suggesting it would be a good topic here.So without further ado: in response to your hair or lack thereof whether it be body, facial or cranial: Which One: A Silverback Gorilla or a hairless cat? As for myself: i go with hairless cat. Body hair is on the thinner end of the spectrum (with those exquisite white hairs slowly becoming more pronounced) and the leg hair having patch bald spots below the knee's from childhood having to wear braces to correct my inward turned feet. The head lost the hair battle around 10 years ago with a nice balding spot right smack on top from years of an ascending widows peak. Facial comes in fairly thick when I let it grow out (with again that abundance of white sprouting up) but here in the desert of Arizona with 100+ temperatures I find I prefer to go about clean shaved, so each morning an electric razor does the job and by 10 am the good ol' 5 o'clock shadow has arrived. The head I simply zip each weekend with an electric trimmer and allow it grow through the week before zipping again on Sunday. Just too dang much work to shave the old skull bone down each morning in the shower to full wax and shine mode. What about the rest of you? |
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