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Post by beccabear67 on Apr 7, 2020 14:55:36 GMT -5
Also as a Metallica fan, and I mean no offense, I cringed at Kurt Hammond. Kirk Hammett was quite the player in the 80s, but sadly he's plateaued since then. Ack! I am so sorry! Once again I use google to check on name spelling and I swear it steered me very wrong on this, but I did type in kurt all on my own and somehow got hammond added. It's been a long time since I listened to Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters etc.
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Post by beccabear67 on Apr 7, 2020 14:57:14 GMT -5
Walking Contradiction is a Green day song I remember really liking, but then it had a very entertaining video of stuff crashing all around them.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 7, 2020 15:15:10 GMT -5
IDK, Offspring kind of reminds me of Cake in a way, how they're not entirely punk but incorporate different musical elements (even then I'd argue that they're not really a punk rock band with stuff like Dirty Magic). I utterly hate Green Day and will never understand their appeal at all I mean, at least for the first few albums they were pretty clearly rooted as a pop-punk band, even if they brought in more and more other elements. I liked Dookie, Insomniac, and Nimrod. I used to like American Idiot but it is well played out. I can do without everything else Green Day put out. I remember when I first got back into Wrestling in 2011 or so and Smackdown had Green Day's "Know Your Enemy" as the theme song. No words can describe it except maybe vomit inducing. Compare that to Smackdown's heyday when it had Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People" as the theme, so much better. Hell, I'd even take Drowning Pool's "Rise Up" from around 2006
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 7, 2020 15:31:55 GMT -5
The Beatles. Not just in a contest between The Beatles and The Stones, but in any contest that starts with "Who/What/When/Where is Better -The Beatles or..." the answer is going to be The Beatles.
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Post by impulse on Apr 7, 2020 15:34:21 GMT -5
Also as a Metallica fan, and I mean no offense, I cringed at Kurt Hammond. Kirk Hammett was quite the player in the 80s, but sadly he's plateaued since then. Ack! I am so sorry! Once again I use google to check on name spelling and I swear it steered me very wrong on this, but I did type in kurt all on my own and somehow got hammond added. It's been a long time since I listened to Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters etc. Ha, no worries, just funny. They have far better songs than those two, but I better save that for a whole other thread... Walking Contradiction is a Green day song I remember really liking, but then it had a very entertaining video of stuff crashing all around them. That's one of my favorites, too. It's catchy and fun. I mean, at least for the first few albums they were pretty clearly rooted as a pop-punk band, even if they brought in more and more other elements. I liked Dookie, Insomniac, and Nimrod. I used to like American Idiot but it is well played out. I can do without everything else Green Day put out. I remember when I first got back into Wrestling in 2011 or so and Smackdown had Green Day's "Know Your Enemy" as the theme song. No words can describe it except maybe vomit inducing. Compare that to Smackdown's heyday when it had Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People" as the theme, so much better. Hell, I'd even take Drowning Pool's "Rise Up" from around 2006
Ah, from 2009's 21st Century Breakdown. Green Day approaching, if not at, their most watered-down and Unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 2:08:00 GMT -5
The Beatles had some poppy teenybopper singles but their albums were full of sub-par filler... You're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong. One of the (many) things that the Beatles changed in popular music was the musical and compositional quality of album tracks. Prior to them, the vast majority of pop albums were a hit single and then a whole load of filler to pad it out. One of the things that both critics and audiences remarked upon and agreed about at the time was that the Beatles' albums featured uncommonly strong material throughout (much of it self-penned). Many of their albums also didn't include hit singles because they felt that if a song had already been on a single then it was a rip off for the fans if they also included it on an album. The quality of the Beatles' album tracks upped the ante for every musician or band making albums in the 1960s. Yeah, they may well have said that at the time, but does it hold up to scrutiny now? I think not. Their albums are full of songs which would rarely be played again if they had been released by any other band, but the Beatles were put on such a pedestal at the time (and largely since), that they get wrapped up in the whole aura.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 8, 2020 2:49:08 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong. One of the (many) things that the Beatles changed in popular music was the musical and compositional quality of album tracks. Prior to them, the vast majority of pop albums were a hit single and then a whole load of filler to pad it out. One of the things that both critics and audiences remarked upon and agreed about at the time was that the Beatles' albums featured uncommonly strong material throughout (much of it self-penned). Many of their albums also didn't include hit singles because they felt that if a song had already been on a single then it was a rip off for the fans if they also included it on an album. The quality of the Beatles' album tracks upped the ante for every musician or band making albums in the 1960s. Yeah, they may well have said that at the time, but does it hold up to scrutiny now? I think not. Their albums are full of songs which would rarely be played again if they had been released by any other band, but the Beatles were put on such a pedestal at the time (and largely since), that they get wrapped up in the whole aura. Of course! A great song is a great song no matter when it was recorded. Time doesn't diminish art (or it shouldn't, at least). I can appreciate that you're not a fan of the Beatles, that's fair enough because music is subjective, after all. But to dismiss their album cuts as mostly "sub-par filler" is, I think, factually incorrect: the majority are finely crafted pop or rock songs, which pushed the envelope in terms of melodic invention, the sort of chord progressions that could be integrated into pop music, and recording studio innovation. The intrinsic quality of these songs is somewhat borne out by the fact that a lot of the Beatles' album tracks actually became hit singles for other artists. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Post by impulse on Apr 8, 2020 9:26:43 GMT -5
Yeah, they may well have said that at the time, but does it hold up to scrutiny now? I think not. Their albums are full of songs which would rarely be played again if they had been released by any other band, but the Beatles were put on such a pedestal at the time (and largely since), that they get wrapped up in the whole aura. Of course! A great song is a great song no matter when it was recorded. Time doesn't diminish art (or it shouldn't, at least). I can appreciate that you're not a fan of the Beatles, that's fair enough because music is subjective, after all. But to dismiss their album cuts as mostly "sub-par filler" is, I think, factually incorrect: the majority are finely crafted pop or rock songs, which pushed the envelope in terms of melodic invention, the sort of chord progressions that could be integrated into pop music, and recording studio innovation. The intrinsic quality of these songs is somewhat borne out by the fact that a lot of the Beatles' album tracks actually became hit singles for other artists. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. There are definitely Beatles songs I skip over, but that is because it doesn't land with me, not because it's lazy pap included to pad out the runtime IMO.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 13, 2020 9:43:56 GMT -5
Which One: Ice Cream or Frozen Yogurt?
Both are deliciously chilled desserts and can hit the sweet tooth and the brain freeze equally. I remember the days of long ago when there was very little choice in the ice cream purchases from the grocery store and the limited options of flavors and/or additives. Now you have companies making tons of imaginative flavors you would have never dreamed of during your childhood.
My personal favorite at the moment is the Frozen Yogurt. Cool, delicious and amazing flavors to entice and tantalize the taste buds. It also helps that frozen yogurt has less fat and calories so you can "indulge" in a larger helping! Frozen yogurt has become an incredible addition to the cold dessert table and during the 80/90's shops popped up everywhere all across towns and close to movie theaters. It felt like you couldn't walk out of a movie without stopping for some Frozen Yogurt (really true when you took your date and treated them) to satisfy that craving during the spring and summer.
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Post by impulse on Apr 13, 2020 10:09:16 GMT -5
Which One: Ice Cream or Frozen Yogurt? Both are deliciously chilled desserts and can hit the sweet tooth and the brain freeze equally. I remember the days of long ago when there was very little choice in the ice cream purchases from the grocery store and the limited options of flavors and/or additives. Now you have companies making tons of imaginative flavors you would have never dreamed of during your childhood. My personal favorite at the moment is the Frozen Yogurt. Cool, delicious and amazing flavors to entice and tantalize the taste buds. It also helps that frozen yogurt has less fat and calories so you can "indulge" in a larger helping! Frozen yogurt has become an incredible addition to the cold dessert table and during the 80/90's shops popped up everywhere all across towns and close to movie theaters. It felt like you couldn't walk out of a movie without stopping for some Frozen Yogurt (really true when you took your date and treated them) to satisfy that craving during the spring and summer. Interesting. The FroYo craze didn't hit where I lived until the late 2000s/early 2010s. It was traditional ice cream all over until then where you couldn't walk outside without tripping over the welcome mat of a frozen yogurt place. In a parlor/going out place with the myriad toppings, you can't beat the experience of the FroYo shop, but if we're going on pure product quality, ice cream hands-down. I used to pretend that frozen yogurt having fewer calories meant I could have more of it than ice cream, but I found that in practice I ate as much of either as I cared to, so might as well get the good one less frequently rather than commonly stuff myself on a lesser product.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 13, 2020 10:42:38 GMT -5
Which One: Ice Cream or Frozen Yogurt? What, no sherbert? I do like Ice Cream, like a lot, but Frozen Yogurt has an overall smoother taste to it Anywho, I was a big fan of TCBY when they were still around, loved their Cookie Dough Parfait that they had for kids. Costco had some pretty kick ass Chocolate Frozen Yogurt, but they got rid of it for some reason :/
When I do eat Ice Cream, I tend to go for Cookie Dough (because I'm five) or some such variation. But I love all flavors provided that they don't have nuts.
Blue Bell did this really, really good King Cake Ice Cream a few months ago that was just melt in your mouth delicious
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 13, 2020 10:57:10 GMT -5
Eye scr, I scre, Ice cream.
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 13, 2020 12:11:18 GMT -5
Between those two, it's definitely ice cream. But in my freezer, what you'll find is coconut-based non-dairy frozen dessert.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 13, 2020 20:20:02 GMT -5
Ice cream.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 13, 2020 20:28:05 GMT -5
Ice cream. I never tasted yogurt. Ever.
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