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Post by berkley on Jun 11, 2014 21:21:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that Ennis' work revolves around Ghost Rider and The Darkness anymore than Wood's work revolves around X-Men and DV8. Both are primarily known for their creator-owned work. It's a bit like saying Gaiman is known for Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader and The Eternals. Ennis is known for Preacher. Does Ennis have a new independent series going? I thought I saw something in the comic shop last time I was there a few weeks ago but can't remember the name of it now. Pretty sure it wasn't a war comic. It seemed to be in its early stages, with a single-digit issue number. I looked at his wiki bibliography but there wasn't anything that looked like the one I thought I saw. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 11, 2014 21:31:47 GMT -5
It's a bit like saying Gaiman is known for Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader and The Eternals. Ennis is known for Preacher. Does Ennis have a new independent series going? I thought I saw something in the comic shop last time I was there a few weeks ago but can't remember the name of it now. Pretty sure it wasn't a war comic. It seemed to be in its early stages, with a single-digit issue number. I looked at his wiki bibliography but there wasn't anything that looked like the one I thought I saw. Red Team from Dynamite. It's less than a year old. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 22:40:53 GMT -5
Ennis has Red Rover Charlie from Avatar too doesn't he? I know he recently launched something from Avatar and thought it was RRC, but it could be something else. I believe he is supposed to return to Crossed for an arc too, doubling up his Avatar output.
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Post by berkley on Jun 11, 2014 22:45:01 GMT -5
It must have been Red team - anyone had a look at it yet, or know anything about it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 22:52:11 GMT -5
It must have been Red team - anyone had a look at it yet, or know anything about it? I bought and read the first 2 issues and it was kind of meh. I don't think I picked up the rest, or if I did they got lost in the morass of my to read pile. Basic premise is a bunch of cops sanction a lowlife who was going to get off on a technicality and it spirals from there...for me it was plot driven with a familiar trope and the characters were basic stock character Ennis recycles in his books over and over and rather uninteresting. It was ok noirish fare, but nothing made it stand out or scream it needed to be read for me. I checked it out because I like noir and crime books, but again I'm not a huge Ennis fan, so my opinion may not reflect others who like what Ennis does more. -M |
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Post by thecolortechnic on Jun 12, 2014 0:27:22 GMT -5
You may also be talking about Caliban, a sci fi horror comic he's doing also at Avatar. I believe it's 3 issues in.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jun 12, 2014 1:02:53 GMT -5
I read Ennis' Red Team.It was decent and kept my interest.It as about a small group of cops who came up with a set of rules to kill the worst criminal scum that the law couldn't touch.It dealt on how morals get compromised and what seems to be a clear path can get very muddy.
Not the greatest of Ennis' work but certainly far superior of so much thats on the stands.However I always had a nagging feeling I've seen a movie just like it.The Star Chamber with Micheal Sheen had a similar theme but different
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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 12, 2014 6:05:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that Ennis' work revolves around Ghost Rider and The Darkness anymore than Wood's work revolves around X-Men and DV8. Both are primarily known for their creator-owned work. It's a bit like saying Gaiman is known for Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader and The Eternals. Ennis is known for Preacher. Indeed, also Hellblazer, Hitman or Punisher (MAX). His run on the Dartkness was like 3 issues or so and Ghost Rider were two mini-series. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 12, 2014 8:44:26 GMT -5
He did co-create The Darkness, and wrote the first eight issues of the original series. He also had a brief return early in the series run before turning it over to his friend Mike Conley.
It's just not something I really associate Ennis with. Certainly not before Preacher, Hitman, Punisher MAX, Hellblazer, War Stories, etc.
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Jun 12, 2014 10:51:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't doubt he has good work out there, but that was before his "introduction" to American comics, wasn't it? I'm just kind of going through his wiki. I've only gotten my hands on a few 2000ad issues, and I really liked them, but they're hard to find and a bit expensive to keep up with. Outside of that many of the great British Invasion comics writers I'm unfamiliar with. Even Alan Moore, who I had to make a conscious effort to read since so much of his work falls outside my area of interest. I'm not likely to try out much from the first years of Vertigo. I read a lot of newer Vertigo and really like it, and I know the earlier stuff is critically acclaimed, but it just doesn't seem to be my cup of tea, from what I have actually read. Ennis grew up reading pretty much anything but American superhero fare (more 2000 AD or Battle Picture Weekly), and pretty much the whole of his career reflects this. He began at Crisis doing a couple of noir/slice-of-life type serials commenting on religious terrorism in the UK (Troubled Souls and True Faith), then took a job at 2000 AD doing Judge Dredd & the like when the former anthology went belly-up. The combination of Crisis fizzling out and Fleetway being an utter sausage factory at the time-- as well as his feeling that his work on Dredd was just a pale simulacrum of what guys like John Wagner, Pat Mills, or Alan Grant had done before-- is what made him take the US comics-life preserver Archie Goodwin & Karen Berger threw him (as they'd read his Crisis work). Point being, while he might be willing to be published by the Big Two-- or even do the odd money-grab-- he doesn't really get stars in his eyes over them and/or their characters. For example, Marvel was a no-go for him prior to Joe Quesada opening things up, and DC hasn't done themselves any favors in his eyes of late with their stance on creator rights. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 12, 2014 12:05:52 GMT -5
Also, almost the entirty of Ennis' career has been in N American comics. Other than a few one-offs mostly done for charity, he's been in the American industry for over 20 years now. He got out of the British scene right as it was really changing for the worse between financial troubles, unstable ownership, and some rough editorial regimes that drove away a lot of talent, particularly at 2000AD. He never really looked back, although I suspect that Matt Smith at 2000AD might get him to reconsider.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 18:00:46 GMT -5
I read Ennis' Red Team.It was decent and kept my interest.It as about a small group of cops who came up with a set of rules to kill the worst criminal scum that the law couldn't touch.It dealt on how morals get compromised and what seems to be a clear path can get very muddy. Not the greatest of Ennis' work but certainly far superior of so much thats on the stands. However I always had a nagging feeling I've seen a movie just like it.Your description made me think of Magnum Force. Haven't read Red Team yet. |
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Post by dupersuper on Jun 12, 2014 20:31:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't doubt he has good work out there, but that was before his "introduction" to American comics, wasn't it? I'm just kind of going through his wiki. I've only gotten my hands on a few 2000ad issues, and I really liked them, but they're hard to find and a bit expensive to keep up with. Outside of that many of the great British Invasion comics writers I'm unfamiliar with. Even Alan Moore, who I had to make a conscious effort to read since so much of his work falls outside my area of interest. I'm not likely to try out much from the first years of Vertigo. I read a lot of newer Vertigo and really like it, and I know the earlier stuff is critically acclaimed, but it just doesn't seem to be my cup of tea, from what I have actually read. Ennis grew up reading pretty much anything but American superhero fare (more 2000 AD or Battle Picture Weekly), and pretty much the whole of his career reflects this. Yeah, I guess if you don't encounter super heroes as a kid they seem completely absurd. Apparently his soft spot for Superman comes from reruns of the Reeves TV show that he watched as a kid, or am I confusing him with Millar in that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 17:43:56 GMT -5
Has anyone tried Terminator: The Burning Earth? I'm a fan of the franchise and can't wait for Genesis next year. I'm interested in commentary on the art in this run as I heard Alex Ross won an award for it??
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 17, 2014 17:52:20 GMT -5
Has anyone tried Terminator: The Burning Earth? I'm a fan of the franchise and can't wait for Genesis next year. I'm interested in commentary on the art in this run as I heard Alex Ross won an award for it??
It's pretty good, but the early Ross art is definitely the draw. I'd recommend picking up any James Robinson Terminator story instead, especially the special painted by Matt Wagner. (One of only two stories that Wagner has illustrated for someone besides himself, I believe.) |
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