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Post by madthinker on Jul 11, 2014 18:46:20 GMT -5
thanks for input, everyone...global frequency and enigma are going to lake superior.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 27, 2014 8:11:04 GMT -5
Up 'til now, I've never been a massive X-Men fan...I just don't get what everybody's fascination is with this team. Recently though, I've been looking at back issues of the Classic X-Men reprint comic that Marvel put out in the late '80s. These are pretty cheap to pick up and I'm just wondered if somebody could tell me whether they'd be a good way for me to explore some top notch Bronze Age X-Men, in order to see what all the fuss is about?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 27, 2014 12:23:03 GMT -5
Up 'til now, I've never been a massive X-Men fan...I just don't get what everybody's fascination is with this team. Recently though, I've been looking at back issues of the Classic X-Men reprint comic that Marvel put out in the late '80s. These are pretty cheap to pick up and I'm just wondered if somebody could tell me whether they'd be a good way for me to explore some top notch Bronze Age X-Men, in order to see what all the fuss is about? That could be the best way to read them. The reprints are uncut and each issue has a beautifully rendered back up story fleshing out an aspect of the original
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Post by Confessor on Jul 27, 2014 20:01:57 GMT -5
That could be the best way to read them. The reprints are uncut and each issue has a beautifully rendered back up story fleshing out an aspect of the original Thanks, Ish. I'm definitely thinking I might pick up a few random issues of this series.
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Post by coveredinbees on Jul 27, 2014 20:14:34 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of the Justice League comics. I just finished Morrison's run. Was Mark Waid's JLA good, too?
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Post by coveredinbees on Jul 27, 2014 20:16:08 GMT -5
Up 'til now, I've never been a massive X-Men fan...I just don't get what everybody's fascination is with this team. Recently though, I've been looking at back issues of the Classic X-Men reprint comic that Marvel put out in the late '80s. These are pretty cheap to pick up and I'm just wondered if somebody could tell me whether they'd be a good way for me to explore some top notch Bronze Age X-Men, in order to see what all the fuss is about? #7 is a must.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 27, 2014 22:01:22 GMT -5
Up 'til now, I've never been a massive X-Men fan...I just don't get what everybody's fascination is with this team. Recently though, I've been looking at back issues of the Classic X-Men reprint comic that Marvel put out in the late '80s. These are pretty cheap to pick up and I'm just wondered if somebody could tell me whether they'd be a good way for me to explore some top notch Bronze Age X-Men, in order to see what all the fuss is about? Personally, I've found the best bang for your buck to be the Essentials volumes, but since Marvel lets everything go out of print, that may not be as cost effective now as it was for me. The best part of the Classic X-Men reprints is that you're going to get backups by John Bolton for a good part of the run.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 22:03:29 GMT -5
Up 'til now, I've never been a massive X-Men fan...I just don't get what everybody's fascination is with this team. Recently though, I've been looking at back issues of the Classic X-Men reprint comic that Marvel put out in the late '80s. These are pretty cheap to pick up and I'm just wondered if somebody could tell me whether they'd be a good way for me to explore some top notch Bronze Age X-Men, in order to see what all the fuss is about? Personally, I've found the best bang for your buck to be the Essentials volumes, but since Marvel lets everything go out of print, that may not be as cost effective now as it was for me. The best part of the Classic X-Men reprints is that you're going to get backups by John Bolton for a good part of the run. And some very nice covers by Mike Mignola for part of it. -M
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 27, 2014 22:05:43 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of the Justice League comics. I just finished Morrison's run. Was Mark Waid's JLA good, too? It was a let down for me. I liked Tower of Babel, but the further stories when Bryan Hitch came on fell totally flat for me, despite some good ideas. I think the zeitgeist had moved past the "Big 7" JLA in the wake of books like The Authority, and having Hitch as the artist after his Authority run only made it seem even sadder. I don't know-- maybe I'd like them more now, but at the time, complete letdown.
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 27, 2014 22:36:27 GMT -5
I haven't read a lot of the Justice League comics. I just finished Morrison's run. Was Mark Waid's JLA good, too? It was just as good. Both are among the best JLA writers of all time.
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Post by coveredinbees on Jul 27, 2014 23:18:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies! I liked Tower of Babel, so I bought the Queen of Fables arc. If I like it, I'll continue with Waid. His Adam Strange story in the middle of Morrison's run was really good.
Before I drop 40$ on Dini's Detective run, did everyone here love it?
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Post by berkley on Jul 28, 2014 1:15:26 GMT -5
Shaxper gave some warnings about the Classic X-Men reprints in the X-Men thread, but if the additions are easily distinguished from the original material I'll probably start looking for them myself. However, I think he mentioned that Claremont did fiddle with the original dialogue here and there, which is too bad.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 28, 2014 9:02:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies! I liked Tower of Babel, so I bought the Queen of Fables arc. If I like it, I'll continue with Waid. His Adam Strange story in the middle of Morrison's run was really good. Before I drop 40$ on Dini's Detective run, did everyone here love it? I didn't read much of it, but from what I did read, I found them to be totally average Bat-comics. The best Bat-comics in that timeframe were Matt Wagner's Year 1.5 ( ...Monster Men and ...Masked Monk) and David Hine's Azrael run, in my opinion. (I found the pre- Return of Bruce Wayne/ Batman and Robin Morrison run to be weak, too, with the exception of the "Black Glove" arc with the Williams III art.)
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Post by impulse on Jul 28, 2014 10:11:33 GMT -5
That is definitely a good way to get into classic X-Men. I hope you find something you like there. They didn't dominate at the time for no reason, but it's not for everyone.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 28, 2014 10:25:58 GMT -5
Shaxper gave some warnings about the Classic X-Men reprints in the X-Men thread, but if the additions are easily distinguished from the original material I'll probably start looking for them myself. However, I think he mentioned that Claremont did fiddle with the original dialogue here and there, which is too bad. Sometimes it was a lot more than "here and there," just so you know. the first issue, for example, was a near total re-write of Giant-Size X-Men #1. Very little was left untouched. The idea was to make the early issues jibe better with the later stuff -- make early characterizations match better with later developments, etc, but the problem is that he approaches it more from a historical perspective than an artistic one. A lot of the alterations impede flow and seem to come out of nowhere. Additionally, whenever panels and pages are replaced, the new art is never as good as the Cockrum and Byrne material. And no, it's not always easy to determine what has been modified and what hasn't. I began with the Classic X-Men issues, but also borrowed an Essential X-Men volume from the library so that I could see where alterations had been made. It was more work than it was worth. I don't think reading the Classic X-Men versions will utterly kill your ability to enjoy the stories, but you'll lose some of the impact and, worse yet, will get involved in some really confusing discussions when you try to explain what you think was Sabretooth's first appearance or try to debate the motives of the original Black Queen. Better to read the originals (or a collected edition) and then examine the Classic X-Men versions as a curiosity. When I finally get around to doing my X-Men review thread, I will incorporate notes about changes made in the Classic X-Men versions.
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