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Post by dupersuper on Aug 14, 2014 20:28:41 GMT -5
Is any of the post Death of Superman Action Comics/Superman stuff any good, roughly from 1993-2000? The last half of Joe Kelly's run on "Adventures" is my favorite Superman since the early '40s. It started out in crossover hell, but ended up doing really imaginative humanist science fiction stuff. Wasn't that Casey? |
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Post by Action Ace on Aug 14, 2014 20:56:09 GMT -5
The last half of Joe Kelly's run on "Adventures" is my favorite Superman since the early '40s. It started out in crossover hell, but ended up doing really imaginative humanist science fiction stuff. Wasn't that Casey? Yes, it was Joe Casey on Adventures and Joe Kelly on Action Comics. I'd rate it as my least favorite period of Superman comics ever. |
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Post by Action Ace on Aug 14, 2014 21:00:14 GMT -5
I guess the question is how much you like Star Wars? I bought them because they were Goodwin comics illustrated by Howard Chaykin, and I was pretty disappointed. Nowhere near either gentleman's best work. I'm a big fan of the movies, but the only EU stuff I've looked into is a few issues of the Marvel series. You might want to go with the recent Dark Horse twenty issue series by Brian Wood. |
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Post by dupersuper on Aug 14, 2014 21:26:37 GMT -5
Yes, it was Joe Casey on Adventures and Joe Kelly on Action Comics. I'd rate it as my least favorite period of Superman comics ever. Did you not read Austens Action? Or Robinsons 4 Superman issues that actually had Superman? |
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Post by Action Ace on Aug 14, 2014 21:32:33 GMT -5
Yes, it was Joe Casey on Adventures and Joe Kelly on Action Comics. I'd rate it as my least favorite period of Superman comics ever. Did you not read Austens Action? Or Robinsons 4 Superman issues that actually had Superman? Except for the period between where the Golden Age Archives end and the Silver Age begins, I've read them all. |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 15, 2014 6:01:44 GMT -5
Should I buy the Archie Goodwin Star Wars series? I am not a Star Wars fan at all. I thought the first two movies were entertaining if incredibly flawed. But if you're talking the comic strip...it's Goodwin and Al Williamson...and that is always worthwhile. Seconded. The Archie Goodwin/Al Williamson newspaper strip is fantastic, both from an art point of view and from a storytelling/characterisation point of view. Set between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, yet written around the time that Return of the Jedi came out or just after (and therefore informed but revelations in that film), these strips feel like missing chapters from the film franchise. They're not as grim and gritty or as overly serious as some of the later Dark Horse EU stuff, but in my view that's a good thing. These comics are pitched somewhere between Episode IV: A New Hope and Episode VI: Return of the Jedi in tone. Goodwin also scripted a whole batch of issues from Marvel's Star Wars series: #11-45 + #47, with art by the Carmine Infantino, and #50 and #98, with art by Al Williamson again. The early issues with Carmine Infantino are good, fun comics, but Infantino's artwork never really worked all that well for SW, in my opinion. Whereas later artists like Walt Simonson really nailed the "Star Wars look", Infantino's angular figures and decidedly un-Star Warsy spaceship design never quite fitted. Of course, as a kid I ate these comics up with a spoon and as an adult I've come to really love Infantino's stylistic idiosyncrasies (plus, there's a HUGE nostalgia factor for me with Marvel's SW series), but Al Williamson's style fits the SW universe a lot better than Infantino's ever did. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 15, 2014 9:26:24 GMT -5
Did you not read Austens Action? Or Robinsons 4 Superman issues that actually had Superman? Except for the period between where the Golden Age Archives end and the Silver Age begins, I've read them all. Not that I have read them all, or even close, but it aggravates me immensely that there is a gap. |
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 24, 2014 18:25:31 GMT -5
What are the best Captain America runs prior to Brubaker's?
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Post by Action Ace on Aug 24, 2014 18:49:45 GMT -5
What are the best Captain America runs prior to Brubaker's? I haven't read hardly anything from Simon/ Kirby in World War II, but I must assume that is one that can't be missed. Stan Lee with Jack Kirby and Jim Steranko in the 1960s Steve Englehart in Cap #153-186 in the 1970s It's not a favorite of mine, but you might want to give the Jack Kirby Madbomb era of #193-214 a look. It has to be seen to be believed. Stern/ Byrne era in the 1980s from issues #247-255 Mark Waid in issues #444-454 and the next volume #1-22, also the Sentinel of Liberty spinoff series #1-12 |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 24, 2014 19:06:30 GMT -5
What are the best Captain America runs prior to Brubaker's? The two runs I hear the most enthusiasm/praise for here are the Englehart run and the team-up era with Falcon. I've never actually read any Captain America myself. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 24, 2014 19:08:30 GMT -5
I'd add the mid-Gruenwald period to that list, especially the "Captain/John Walker" stories (collected as The Captain) and The Bloodstone Hunt, which is an absolute blast along the lines of Raiders of the Lost Ark and introduces Crossbones. After that, it becomes more hit or miss, especially after issue 400.
JM DeMatteis has a pretty good run around issue 300. It's got the usual DeMatteis preoccupations with philosophy and spirituality (Black Crow, in particular), but it's solid action, too. Unfortunately, DeMatteis had to radically rework his epic story as it neared its conclusion in 300, so it doesn't quite pack the impact it could have. (DeMatteis would explore those ideas 20 years later in The Life and Times of Saviour-28 from IDW. It's a good book.) There's a tpb called The Death of the Red Skull that's worth checking out-- Brubaker actually picks up a lot of plot points from that story. Also, Deathlok Lives! is a good story by DeMatteis.
One run that I liked that was really overlooked at the time was Dan Jurgens' run. Solid stuff with a classic feel, much better that the second Waid run that preceded it. (Probably because Bob Harras was messing with it like he was with Waid.)
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Post by DubipR on Aug 24, 2014 20:54:27 GMT -5
What are the best Captain America runs prior to Brubaker's? Waid/Garney's runs... the one prior to Heroes Return and Heroes Return Kirby's 70s stuff... it's so much craziness, its that's good Englehart's 70s stuff with Buscema Stern/Bryne run |
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 24, 2014 21:00:09 GMT -5
What about Mark Gruenwald's run? It looks pretty extensive.
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 25, 2014 9:01:43 GMT -5
What about Mark Gruenwald's run? It looks pretty extensive. Like I said in my earlier post, I'd recommend the "Captain" period, which begins at Cap 332 (although there's a fairly significant story with Flag Smasher before that which informs Cap's decision) and The Bloodstone Hunt. Previous to that, it felt like Gru was finding his way, and after Bloodstone Hunt, his run became hit or miss, although there's still some gems like "Streets of Poison". Post-400, I wouldn't bother-- the art, in particular, declines. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 25, 2014 18:42:55 GMT -5
The last half of Joe Kelly's run on "Adventures" is my favorite Superman since the early '40s. It started out in crossover hell, but ended up doing really imaginative humanist science fiction stuff. Wasn't that Casey? Oh, right, right, right. Sorry. (And his short Mister Majestic - a Wildstorm Superman knock-off - was just as good. I don't remember Joe KELLY being too bad, either. I thought he did good Clark Kent stuff and wrote married Clark and Lois well, which is (apparently) super difficult to do - Like I can't think of anyone who wrote married Peter Parker well. |
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