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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 10, 2015 20:20:13 GMT -5
I have enjoyed the occasional Conan comic that has found its way into my collection (I know, there should be more than the 7 or 8 issues I have...someday) but I was wondering about the first 5 issues of Kull? Similar? As good? Not worth the time?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 10, 2015 21:11:31 GMT -5
It's fairly similar. The main difference is Kull is a deposed King while Conan is a future one  |
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Post by berkley on Nov 11, 2015 2:44:41 GMT -5
I have enjoyed the occasional Conan comic that has found its way into my collection (I know, there should be more than the 7 or 8 issues I have...someday) but I was wondering about the first 5 issues of Kull? Similar? As good? Not worth the time? As REH creations within the sword & sorcery genre they're obviously closely related - in fact Kull is often described as an abortive effort towards what eventually became the more successful character, Conan - and I think if you like one there's a good chance you'll like the other. But given all that, but I find them quite different and actually prefer Kull. He's more limited as a character in that he's pretty much tied to the role of King of Valusia - even when they try to introduce some variety by having him deposed he's usually focused on trying to regain his throne - which puts more constraints on the situations he can get involved in than is the case with Conan. But in a strange way I find that also works in his favour - he's more well-defined than Conan, who plays so many roles that he's a bit of everything. But anyway, yes, the Kull series is well worth reading, especially the first 10 issues or so with artwork by Marie & John Severin. The rest of the series is more variable in quality, but I found it enjoyable nearly all the way through. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 11, 2015 2:58:07 GMT -5
a couple questions of my own:
1. Black Flame - this was a back-up series, first in a book called Mars and later continued in Mike Grell's Starslayer, though I think it came after Grell left that book. I only have one issue, and it's the single one where Black Flame takes over the entire book instead of being a back-up. I really like the look of that one issue, though I haven't read it yet, and feel pretty sure I'll want to track down the rest of it. Since it hasn't been collected, that'll mean going after the back-issues, so in addition to asking what readers here think of Black Flame, I'm also wondering what they think of the main features in those series, Mars and Starslayer.
2. Barry Windsor-Smith's Marvel comeback - I had long given up following Marvel by the time BWS came back to work on things like the X-Men but I like his art so much I'm considering giving some of that stuff a try. Is any of it worth reading? I know he did some X-Men, and I think a Machine Man comic, not sure what else, if anything.
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Post by Trevor on Nov 11, 2015 8:13:09 GMT -5
a couple questions of my own: 1. Black Flame - this was a back-up series, first in a book called Mars and later continued in Mike Grell's Starslayer, though I think it came after Grell left that book. I only have one issue, and it's the single one where Black Flame takes over the entire book instead of being a back-up. I really like the look of that one issue, though I haven't read it yet, and feel pretty sure I'll want to track down the rest of it. Since it hasn't been collected, that'll mean going after the back-issues, so in addition to asking what readers here think of Black Flame, I'm also wondering what they think of the main features in those series, Mars and Starslayer. I really enjoyed Mars by Mark Wheatley and Marc Hempel, but I don't think I read all of my individual issues, but just the trade collection. I don't remember the Black Flame backup. But I do own the entire runs of Mars and Starslayer iirc. I'll join you on this read if you end up making the plunge. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 11, 2015 8:25:18 GMT -5
I still miss one late issue of Paul Pope's THB epic, but I settled for starting to read it anyways, and boy was I in for a treat as this is quickly becoming one of my favoite comics ever! I love his recent material, but his early stuff is just so pure and inventive! So I was wondering if anyone had read his earlier graphic novels :
The Ballad of Doctor Richardson (1994) OGN SC
Sin Titulo (1993) #1
The Corruptor (1993) #1
Those are all long OOP and very costy, so I need a few opinions before unloading the dough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 13:49:02 GMT -5
I have enjoyed the occasional Conan comic that has found its way into my collection (I know, there should be more than the 7 or 8 issues I have...someday) but I was wondering about the first 5 issues of Kull? Similar? As good? Not worth the time? As REH creations within the sword & sorcery genre they're obviously closely related - in fact Kull is often described as an abortive effort towards what eventually became the more successful character, Conan - and I think if you like one there's a good chance you'll like the other. But given all that, but I find them quite different and actually prefer Kull. He's more limited as a character in that he's pretty much tied to the role of King of Valusia - even when they try to introduce some variety by having him deposed he's usually focused on trying to regain his throne - which puts more constraints on the situations he can get involved in than is the case with Conan. But in a strange way I find that also works in his favour - he's more well-defined than Conan, who plays so many roles that he's a bit of everything. But anyway, yes, the Kull series is well worth reading, especially the first 10 issues or so with artwork by Marie & John Severin. The rest of the series is more variable in quality, but I found it enjoyable nearly all the way through. The Shadow Kingdom is still by far my favorite REH tale. If you are checking out early Kull from Marvel, don't miss Creatures on the loose #10 where he first debuted for Marvel in the lead story drawn by Benri Wrightson. |
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Post by Trevor on Nov 11, 2015 14:24:42 GMT -5
Those collections from Dark Horse reprinting all the Marvel material will be super cheap in a week or two here, if Dark Horse follows their usual sales.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 11, 2015 17:57:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the Kull info guys!
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 11, 2015 18:17:17 GMT -5
Oh, just remmebered : as I've been enjoying Greg Rucka's recent output more than expected, I was contemplating checking out the stuff of his I missed (totally dodged!), and his Wonder Woman run seems to be one chunky bit.
Opinions? I generally have very little interest in the character and even less if that run would be too connected to older runs and general events in the DC verse.
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Post by earl on Nov 11, 2015 18:49:38 GMT -5
2. Barry Windsor-Smith's Marvel comeback - I had long given up following Marvel by the time BWS came back to work on things like the X-Men but I like his art so much I'm considering giving some of that stuff a try. Is any of it worth reading? I know he did some X-Men, and I think a Machine Man comic, not sure what else, if anything. Barry Windsor-Smith's few issues he did about Wolverine including X-men #205 and the later serialized Weapon X series ended up being a big part of his origin story. BWS artwork has some amazing detail and these have held up as classic X-men related tales. He did some other X-men stuff too. I haven't read the Machine Man mini-series in years but remember digging it. It is a series that has it's fans even today. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 12, 2015 0:01:23 GMT -5
2. Barry Windsor-Smith's Marvel comeback - I had long given up following Marvel by the time BWS came back to work on things like the X-Men but I like his art so much I'm considering giving some of that stuff a try. Is any of it worth reading? I know he did some X-Men, and I think a Machine Man comic, not sure what else, if anything. Barry Windsor-Smith's few issues he did about Wolverine including X-men #205 and the later serialized Weapon X series ended up being a big part of his origin story. BWS artwork has some amazing detail and these have held up as classic X-men related tales. He did some other X-men stuff too. I haven't read the Machine Man mini-series in years but remember digging it. It is a series that has it's fans even today. Thanks - looking at wikipedia, I see he also did an issue of Daredevil (#286), a couple of Iron Man, among other things. Anyone read those? I'll probably try them anyway, there are only a few and they're not expensive, thankfully. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 13, 2015 18:39:25 GMT -5
Oh, just remmebered : as I've been enjoying Greg Rucka's recent output more than expected, I was contemplating checking out the stuff of his I missed (totally dodged!), and his Wonder Woman run seems to be one chunky bit. Opinions? I generally have very little interest in the character and even less if that run would be too connected to older runs and general events in the DC verse. I quite liked the first half, but it eventually descended into crossover hell. Still, my favorite Wonder Woman run from the last 70 years! |
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Post by berkley on Nov 13, 2015 21:21:02 GMT -5
Oh, just remmebered : as I've been enjoying Greg Rucka's recent output more than expected, I was contemplating checking out the stuff of his I missed (totally dodged!), and his Wonder Woman run seems to be one chunky bit. Opinions? I generally have very little interest in the character and even less if that run would be too connected to older runs and general events in the DC verse. I quite liked the first half, but it eventually descended into crossover hell. Still, my favorite Wonder Woman run from the last 70 years! I remember think it suffered from some rather average artwork. I've come to the conclusion that it's almost impossible for me to enjoy WW because I'm interested in Greek mythology myself and no one ever seems to write that element of the WW concept to my satisfaction. But I have the same feeling about Marvel's version of Greek myth, for the most part, so it's probably more a problem with the treatment of (ancient) myth in superhero comics in general than with the WW character itself. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 13, 2015 21:24:02 GMT -5
a couple questions of my own: 1. Black Flame - this was a back-up series, first in a book called Mars and later continued in Mike Grell's Starslayer, though I think it came after Grell left that book. I only have one issue, and it's the single one where Black Flame takes over the entire book instead of being a back-up. I really like the look of that one issue, though I haven't read it yet, and feel pretty sure I'll want to track down the rest of it. Since it hasn't been collected, that'll mean going after the back-issues, so in addition to asking what readers here think of Black Flame, I'm also wondering what they think of the main features in those series, Mars and Starslayer. I really enjoyed Mars by Mark Wheatley and Marc Hempel, but I don't think I read all of my individual issues, but just the trade collection. I don't remember the Black Flame backup. But I do own the entire runs of Mars and Starslayer iirc. I'll join you on this read if you end up making the plunge. I think I will but it'll probably be some time before I scrounge up the back issues and even longer before I get around to fitting them into my reading. |
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