zilch
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Post by zilch on Jul 7, 2020 21:39:09 GMT -5
I play this game alot inside the limited hard disc space left inside my brain... WHAT IF....? ... after his distributor went out of business, Goodman said screw the funny books and sold IP to National Comics? Would Stan have followed or stayed behind to work for Goodman's magazine line? ... Joe Manley didn't take a long walk on a short train platform? Would there have been room for a scrounging-for-work Jack Kirby? ... comic book publishers had bit the bullet earlier and kept a larger size comic for the industry standard? Would the anthology book have faded as fast as it did? Would super-heroes stayed longer at National and Timely?? ... what if another publisher had bought the Quality and Fawcett IPs?
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Post by berkley on Jul 7, 2020 22:42:33 GMT -5
All I can think of is just sort of wishful thinking, stuff I'd like to have seen. For example:
What if .. DC had given Neal Adams a horror or supernatural series to draw instead of Batman, as Marvel had Gene Colan do Dracula instead of putting back on Daredevil.
What if ... Marvel had given Barry Windsor-Smith carte-blanche to draw any series he wanted after he left Conan, existing or an original idea of his own.
What if ... Marvel had given Steranko his sword and sorcery series, Talon.
What if ... Marvel and DC had allowed Kirby the freedom to write the Eternals and the Fourth World sagas however he wanted and to bring them to their conclusions.
What if ... Steve Englehart had stayed on the Avengers for several more years with George Perez on the artwork.
What if ... there had been an avenue for more painstaking, slower artists like Steranko, Wrightson, BWS, Adams, Russell, Brunner, Gulacy, etc to produce series at their own pace.
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Post by DubipR on Jul 8, 2020 9:41:07 GMT -5
WHAT IF...
- Jack Cole or Wally Wood didn't leave this earth like they have; imagine the output from them. - DC did a Superman/Rocketeer crossover written and drawn by Dave Stevens. - Alan Moore's "Twilight of the Superheroes" came to fruition - Big Numbers wraps up. - Seaguy volume 3 comes out and tells the complete saga - Grant Morrison's Hal Jordan Spectre monthly came out
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 11:10:31 GMT -5
What if changes made in the 90s by DC and Marvel had not been changed back? We would still have Kyle as the only Green Lantern. Connor Hawke as Green Arrow. Ben Reilly as Spider-Man.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 8, 2020 13:35:47 GMT -5
In 1970, one of the most important people at Marvel left the company and went to a competitor, where he worked on both color comics and larger black & white magazines. You're probably thinking of Jack Kirby, but that description also fits Sol Brodsky, the production manager who actually ran the Bullpen while Stan wrote scripts at home. Brodsky teamed up with Israel Waldman to create Skywald, who published color comics for about a year, mostly westerns, and black & white magazines that lasted about five years.
So, what if Kirby had gone with Brodsky to Skywald instead of DC? He could have done the Fourth World, Kamandi, the Demon, OMAC, et al, none of them depended on being in the DC universe. And his larger-format ideas would have fit in a lot better at Skywald than they did at DC. Skywald actually had a black & white magazine of crime stories, The Crime Machine, on the stands a few months before Kirby's In The Days Of The Mob. Maybe having Kirby would have helped Skywald stay in the color comics world longer - or maybe Jack would have wanted to do all of his stuff in the larger black & white format. Maybe he would have been able to get the various titles started and hand them off to others, as he originally planned to do at DC. Lots of interesting possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 15:22:32 GMT -5
What if Atlas Comics had succeeded in 1975 at being a viable publisher?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 18:19:46 GMT -5
What if Crossgen had never imploded and we got to see the end of the Negation War and the Sigil saga.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 8, 2020 21:28:50 GMT -5
What if Marvel and DC every summer did a 4 issue Avengers/Justice League crossover and alternate with writer/artist from each company. Can do the same idea as Annual JLA/JSA meet ups while including other teams, but main focus upon members of JLA and Avengers.
Then every winter a Giant Size 100 Page Annual featuring 2 different lone hero team-up revolving around Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years as plots.
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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2020 22:31:02 GMT -5
What if ... the black and white mag Kull and the Barbarians had gone on to enjoy an extended run, like Savage Sword of Conan, and Vicente Alcazar had been the semi-regular artist, with Mike Ploog providing occasional back-up stories.
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Post by sabongero on Jul 8, 2020 23:53:38 GMT -5
What if ... Alan Moore continued and finished his run with the character of Supreme in Image Publications ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 12:27:31 GMT -5
What if ... Alan Moore continued and finished his run with the character of Supreme in Image Publications ? I would have loved to see his entire "Awesome Universe" line of books be completed...Youngblood and Glory in addition to Supreme. I mean, we probably don't get the ABC line of books, but based on all the outlines and script fragments that they put out which detailed his plans, those comics would have been awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 12:30:23 GMT -5
What if ... Alan Moore continued and finished his run with the character of Supreme in Image Publications ? I would have loved to see his entire "Awesome Universe" line of books be completed...Youngblood and Glory in addition to Supreme. I mean, we probably don't get the ABC line of books, but based on all the outlines and script fragments that they put out which detailed his plans, those comics would have been awesome. I agree. The Awesome imprint showed a lot of promise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 13:38:03 GMT -5
What if Crossgen had never imploded and we got to see the end of the Negation War and the Sigil saga.
Hmm, might still be buying Sojourn, was good while it lasted.
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Post by Duragizer on Jul 11, 2020 1:40:15 GMT -5
What if Archie & Bongo Comics had collaborated to tell the untold story of Homer in Riverdale?
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Post by earl on Jul 11, 2020 9:36:56 GMT -5
Time traveling comic book fan shows up in late 60s and buys Warren comics then gives Archie Goodwin control and money to create new comics aimed at an older audience with artistic freedom and co-ownership of the properties. Gil Kane, Wally Wood, Neal Adams, Jim Steranko and others take him up on the line and successes of licensing the properties into Hollywood raises profile and the "indie" comic boom of the 80s-90s starts in 1969.
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