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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 15, 2020 21:45:50 GMT -5
I'll only be reading, I'm just not organized enough this year I guess. Enjoyed the thoughts on Stern, Englehart, Simone and others so far in the first three days!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 16, 2020 6:58:23 GMT -5
I'll only be reading, I'm just not organized enough this year I guess. Enjoyed the thoughts on Stern, Englehart, Simone and others so far in the first three days! You can always place your picks later. The threads stay open until 12-31-2020.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 15:05:10 GMT -5
Not happy with CCC 2020 so far!
Why? Because everyone - everyone! - is sharing so much great stuff, you’re gonna break my bank. So many things I want to check out now, most of which I’ve never heard of. So now I’m gonna be breaking the bank via eBay in the new year.
Stop making me spend money!!!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 16, 2020 15:09:32 GMT -5
Not happy with CCC 2020 so far! Why? Because everyone - everyone! - is sharing so much great stuff, you’re gonna break my bank. So many things I want to check out now, most of which I’ve never heard of. So now I’m gonna be breaking the bank via eBay in the new year. Stop making me spend money!!! That's my favorite part of the event, each year I find so many great new books to try
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 13:54:11 GMT -5
Yeah, write ups have been the of my existence this week. Never enough time in the days.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 18, 2020 11:40:59 GMT -5
I have to truly appreciate coke & comics for using actual comic quotes for his submissions. Brilliant.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 18, 2020 11:46:03 GMT -5
I applaud him for fitting Starlin into the list.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 18, 2020 15:22:51 GMT -5
I realized as I made up my list what many others have said… that there are so many artists who also write, from Eisner to Kirby to Cooke, that it was challenging to assemble a list of favorite writers who only wrote.
And as I was compiling the list, I also realized that early on it was rare that I bought a comic simply and only for the writer. As a young fan, I was generally unaware of the names of the writers, though that certainly changed as I became more knowledgeable and DC in particular started identifying their creators more regularly. As I aged, that definitely changed, as I not only looked for certain writers, but avoided many others.
So I went about making up my list sorta backwards, by listing series, runs, and stories that have made the deepest impression on me over the 58 years I’ve been reading comics. The writers of those were the ones who helped to shape me as a reader of comics and as a reader in general, and also helped me to evaluate other writers’ work… in and out of comics. As I listed those memorable stories, I realized how often certain writers’ names came up and Presto! — my list started to take shape..
(I also leaned toward frequency and longevity, which meant I eliminated a few writers whose work I’ve always enjoyed, with Alan Brennert probably the most notable.)
And so it begins…
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 21, 2020 11:54:50 GMT -5
I've got my list down to 16 names.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 10:36:06 GMT -5
I’m guessing here, but it really feels like people are voting with their heads rather than their hearts. Myself included.
I’m certain people put a LOT of thought into their choices. I did. I know everyone did.
I hate Top 10 or Top 50 or Top 100 lists in movie and music magazines. It rarely feels like there’s though, just populism. This CCF event isn’t about populism, I’m sure. It’s about our favourites (which will, of course, be subjective). I wish magazines could do the same.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 22, 2020 12:19:09 GMT -5
I’m guessing here, but it really feels like people are voting with their heads rather than their hearts. Myself included. I’m certain people put a LOT of thought into their choices. I did. I know everyone did. I hate Top 10 or Top 50 or Top 100 lists in movie and music magazines. It rarely feels like there’s though, just populism. This CCF event isn’t about populism, I’m sure. It’s about our favourites (which will, of course, be subjective). I wish magazines could do the same. Not me! Used my heart all the away. Why I have avoided all the "big" names for the most part. Knew that many would make the list without my help. There will always be names making multiple appearances but there has been quite a nice bit of diversity in other choices. Be interesting to view the numbers in the end.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 22, 2020 12:56:40 GMT -5
I would say that there are maybe 5 nobrainers that if are not on your list, you are just being contrary. Other than that, there are dozens of great writers worthy of being included.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 22, 2020 13:37:58 GMT -5
I would say that there are maybe 5 nobrainers that if are not on your list, you are just being contrary. Other than that, there are dozens of great writers worthy of being included. I'd be shocked if there is any single writer who is not absent from a good many lists. There are hundreds of great writers worthy of being included. At least.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 14:10:51 GMT -5
I would say that there are maybe 5 nobrainers that if are not on your list, you are just being contrary. Other than that, there are dozens of great writers worthy of being included. I don’t know if anyone would be contrary for the sake of it. I mean, I can’t in all honesty say Alan Moore’s work has particularly thrilled me. Sure, there are a couple of stories here and there, but for the most part, many of the things I’ve read of his haven’t exactly set my world alight. It’s a subjective thing, of course, and I realise he’ll be on many lists (and I do like Watchmen). Not sure anyone would be contrary, different folk like different things.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 14:45:34 GMT -5
I would say that there are maybe 5 nobrainers that if are not on your list, you are just being contrary. Other than that, there are dozens of great writers worthy of being included. I don’t know if anyone would be contrary for the sake of it. I mean, I can’t in all honesty say Alan Moore’s work has particularly thrilled me. Sure, there are a couple of stories here and there, but for the most part, many of the things I’ve read of his haven’t exactly set my world alight. It’s a subjective thing, of course, and I realise he’ll be on many lists (and I do like Watchmen). Not sure anyone would be contrary, different folk like different things. I really put an emphasis on making a distinction between favorite and best. I leaned towards writers who I intentionally explored their oeuvres when I first discovered them because I liked their work so much and whom I continued to find things that became favorites when I did. Then it was a matter of boiling down what about their work appealed to me. Moore is one who would absolutely make my list if we were doing a list of Best writers not favorites, and there are a handful of his works that are among my favorites. I used to check out a lot of stuff he had written on name alone, but I found a lot of it just didn't appeal to me despite being well-written, and there were others that just didn't appeal to me enough to try even with Moore on board as writer, so he didn't make the cut in my list despite producing runs like Swamp Thing that I adore. There were others who used to be among my favorites, but who have fallen in my estimation over the years as I continued to discover new comics I hadn't read before and new creators and while I still like those old favorites, they have been surpassed by others I like more now and I no longer have a desire to revisit their body of work as I once did. Favorites is very subjective. Each person can have a different criteria what makes them a favorite. I tried very hard to focus on the body of work as a whole and what it offered as a whole that made a particular writer a favorite rather than individual storylines by the writer that may have given me "the feels" and became a favorite, but the rest of the writer's stuff didn't rise to that level. We've had events that focus on favorite stories or favorite books, this one was about writers so I focused on that totality of output and what traits in the writing appealed to me, not the narratives themselves. But others made their choices based on their own criteria and that is the beauty of this event. -M
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