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Post by Dizzy D on Aug 14, 2022 3:50:52 GMT -5
I signed up and filled in, but got some technical problems (the questionnaire didn't open up in Firefox and at the end of filling it in, I got an uh-oh, something went wrong. So I hope it went through).
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Post by shaxper on Aug 14, 2022 5:22:20 GMT -5
I signed up and filled in, but got some technical problems (the questionnaire didn't open up in Firefox and at the end of filling it in, I got an uh-oh, something went wrong. So I hope it went through). I'll pass this along to their team. Thanks for letting us know!
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Post by Mormel on Aug 14, 2022 6:33:23 GMT -5
I'm on episode 4 of the show having no prior knowledge of the source material, but reading the comic alongside it (i'm on issue 4), and i'm quite fascinated. One thing that stands out so far, is that every ep adapts a concurrent issue of the comic (dunno if this persists for the entire season but i think it's really neat), though taking some obvious liberties. As someone with no connection to the source material, i think it stands on its own well as a fantasy show. I'm really intrigued by Tom Sturridge. 'Dark and brooding and stoic' is so easy to get wrong or over-act but I'm hanging on this man's every word.
I'm glad this also finally got me to plunge into Sandman, one of very few forays outside of my superhero comfort zone. Should do that more often, really, cause it's darn good so far.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 14, 2022 8:06:12 GMT -5
I'm on episode 4 of the show having no prior knowledge of the source material, but reading the comic alongside it (i'm on issue 4), and i'm quite fascinated. One thing that stands out so far, is that every ep adapts a concurrent issue of the comic (dunno if this persists for the entire season but i think it's really neat), though taking some obvious liberties. As someone with no connection to the source material, i think it stands on its own well as a fantasy show. I'm really intrigued by Tom Sturridge. 'Dark and brooding and stoic' is so easy to get wrong or over-act but I'm hanging on this man's every word. I'm glad this also finally got me to plunge into Sandman, one of very few forays outside of my superhero comfort zone. Should do that more often, really, cause it's darn good so far. Yeah, I really liked Tom Sturridge's performance as well and I enjoyed watching Dream grow as the season went on.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 14, 2022 10:24:59 GMT -5
So far my favorite episode was the Hob Gadling episode, their relationship was fantastically done so that when Dream finally met back up with Hob and called him friend I had an ear to ear grin. I loved that episode. That being said, I think moving the Hob Gadling story up to before “A Doll’s House” is problematic. The end of the Gadling story is where we really see that Morpheus has taken Death’s lecture/lesson to heart. And we see that in the episode. But to see him then back-slide in his dealing with Lyta and Hector in the TV show is bothersome. It was the cumulative effect of him learning from Death and Unity, et al, that allowed him to recognize that Hob was a friend and he needed companionship.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 14, 2022 12:20:48 GMT -5
I signed up and filled in, but got some technical problems (the questionnaire didn't open up in Firefox and at the end of filling it in, I got an uh-oh, something went wrong. So I hope it went through). Same here. I'm not doing it again!!!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 14, 2022 12:23:14 GMT -5
So far my favorite episode was the Hob Gadling episode, their relationship was fantastically done so that when Dream finally met back up with Hob and called him friend I had an ear to ear grin. I loved that episode. That being said, I think moving the Hob Gadling story up to before “A Doll’s House” is problematic. The end of the Gadling story is where we really see that Morpheus has taken Death’s lecture/lesson to heart. And we see that in the episode. But to see him then back-slide in his dealing with Lyta and Hector in the TV show is bothersome. It was the cumulative effect of him learning from Death and Unity, et al, that allowed him to recognize that Hob was a friend and he needed companionship. Yeah, I definitely felt like the end where he finally meets up with Hob would have worked better as another one of the epilogues like we got with Lucifer in the last episode.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 14, 2022 12:34:16 GMT -5
I signed up and filled in, but got some technical problems (the questionnaire didn't open up in Firefox and at the end of filling it in, I got an uh-oh, something went wrong. So I hope it went through). Same here. I'm not doing it again!!! I made it through the questionnaire but so far have heard nothing else. We'll see if anything comes of it, it'd be interesting to see what they're looking for.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2022 17:56:58 GMT -5
I'm on episode 4 of the show having no prior knowledge of the source material, but reading the comic alongside it (i'm on issue 4), and i'm quite fascinated. One thing that stands out so far, is that every ep adapts a concurrent issue of the comic (dunno if this persists for the entire season but i think it's really neat), though taking some obvious liberties. As someone with no connection to the source material, i think it stands on its own well as a fantasy show. I'm really intrigued by Tom Sturridge. 'Dark and brooding and stoic' is so easy to get wrong or over-act but I'm hanging on this man's every word. I'm glad this also finally got me to plunge into Sandman, one of very few forays outside of my superhero comfort zone. Should do that more often, really, cause it's darn good so far. Shameless plug time, but you may be interested in my Sandman collected editions review thread (or maybe not :/ ). I review each TPB collection at a time, but I usually have something to say about every issue within each trade. classiccomics.org/thread/6502/sandman-collected-editions-reviewed-confessor
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Post by The Captain on Aug 14, 2022 18:24:43 GMT -5
After getting back into the states late Friday night and traveling back to Pittsburgh on Saturday morning, no one in my family had any energy to do anything (except my older daughter, who picked up a late-afternoon lifeguarding shift at our pool to cover for someone who didn't bother to show up). So, while my younger daughter caught up with all of her friends via text and my wife watched an old Cary Grant movie and crashed out around 8:30, I binged the first five episodes of the show, and I have to say that they did a really nice job with the first half of the season. First episode was fairly faithful to the comic, which I think was needed to set up the story. Didn't really like the voiceovers from Dream, but I understood they were necessary to move the story forward without wasting too much time trying to "show" what was happening. Second episode was fine. Liked Cain and Abel. Other than that, don't remember too much, but I may have been drifting in and out during it. Third episode left me flat, which was disappointing, because I ADORE Jenna Coleman. The writers completely missed the character, as they wrote Constantine as cheeky and capricious, not a selfish blighter who uses everyone around him/her to further his/her own ends. Also, I wish they could have found anyone other than Patton Oswalt to voice Matthew, not because I don't like him but because he's done so much that I find it hard to separate him from other things I've heard and seen him in (Gravity Falls, that abomination of a MODOK show, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., etc.). Fourth episode was hit or miss. The visuals of Hell were sufficiently disturbing (such as the tortured soul holding the mallet for the gong, as well as the trail of the damned), but there was something...off...about Gwendoline Christie's Lucifer. She's a good actress (LOVED her in GoT), she had the right look, and yet, she just didn't seem like Lucifer to me. Fifth episode was bananas, in a great way. The writers took something that was already creepy in the comics and somehow, they turned it up to 11. David Thewlis was fantastic, menacing but not maniacal, frightening but not frightful. This was definitely my favorite episode of the five. Got my survey this afternoon and completed it, even though I'm only halfway through the season. Will be watching at least one episode tonight, maybe two if the wife decides to turn in early again. And I just started to watch The Boys, too! Curse you, time-consuming televisual offer!!! I'm in the same boat as you, my friend. I finished Season 1 of The Boys right before leaving on vacation and I want to get back into it, but now there is this lovely thing in front of me. Decisions, decisions...
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 14, 2022 18:36:05 GMT -5
The survey was a lot more in depth than I thought it would be, I was especially interested that it had a couple questions on what specific stories or characters from the comics I'd like to see adapted. I of course said I wanted more Merv Pumpkinhead and that if they adapted "A Dream of a Thousand Cats" then I could die a happy man.
I wonder what the questions would be like if I had answered I had never heard of the comic?
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2022 18:45:05 GMT -5
I finished the survey and got the message at the end. I think it is more a flaw in such systems, though usually the submission goes through. My problem is I don't really think much of it will be actively considered or taken as critique. The viewing numbers will carry the weight of it. Still, it was nice to present a viewpoint, for once. Surveys are fine, if they are done for an actual desire for feedback and constructed to get it and not just lead to a desired solution.
I do think you really need to see the whole series, which I have not, before taking the survey, as it asks you to rate characters you may not have seen, otherwise, with no neutral or "haven't seen yet" option. For those characters, I chose "average," because it was the best option and stated such in the follow up essay question about characters.
I did remark that I thought the changes to Hope in Hell undercut the ending and its role as setting up Season of Mist. In the comic, Dream duels with the demon Chorazon, not Lucifer. The fact that a weakened Dream triumphs leads to the later confrontation, with Nada as the bait. Lucifer is supposed to be more powerful than a demon and a fallen angel, so the end result should not be as possible as it is with a lesser demon. The comics portrayed Lucifer as being far more powerful than Dream and putting Lucifer in place of the demon undercuts that power, for their return meeting. That removes the tension for that later story.
I am not wowed by the CGI and think the visuals are far less interesting than Gaiman's collaborators' work. Also, one of the strengths of the comic was Gaiman tailoring the story to his artist and we don't get that same element with the series.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2022 18:47:12 GMT -5
The survey was a lot more in depth than I thought it would be, I was especially interested that it had a couple questions on what specific stories or characters from the comics I'd like to see adapted. I of course said I wanted more Merv Pumpkinhead and that if they adapted "A Dream of a Thousand Cats" then I could die a happy man. I wonder what the questions would be like if I had answered I had never heard of the comic? Probably mostly the same, as I don't recall anything that specific about the adaptation of the comic, apart from "As a fan of the comic..." Everything else applied to any viewer. My answer about streaming services isn't totally honest, since I don't subscribe to any; but, have alternate access to programming from them.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 15, 2022 6:03:32 GMT -5
For anyone who received an error message at the end of the survey, we've been told the following:
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 15, 2022 6:45:53 GMT -5
For anyone who received an error message at the end of the survey, we've been told the following: It's cool that they're giving feedback.
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