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Post by spoon on Apr 3, 2022 16:22:11 GMT -5
I watched the first episode of The Wacky Misadventures of Moon Knight. That's one way of doing things. I feel like Steven Grant was too broadly comedic for it to work. I kept on waiting for English characters to say "gorblimey."
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Post by majestic on Apr 6, 2022 14:24:23 GMT -5
So the second episode was a little more focused. We finally got to see more of Marc/Moon Knight. It looks like Steven's alter is Mr Knight. We meet Marc's wife who as far as I know is a creation for this series. I feel like they still haven't worked out their pacing issues on these TV shows.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 7, 2022 8:45:02 GMT -5
All in all I thought the second episode was fantastic and while it doesn't have the scope of say Wandavision so far I'd say its the best conversion of a super hero comic into a TV show. Both episodes have felt like they literally could have been comic books in the way they were plotted and paced which is a great feeling and one we haven't really seen before.
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 8, 2022 9:26:29 GMT -5
I'll give it 'interesting' but I wouldn't go so far as 'good'. This feel more like Rose and Thorn than Moon Knight so far. If they wanted a civilian identity that was a average joe, why not use Jake Lockley instead of Steven Grant? Makes me shake my head. I'd say save the Jake identity for scenes where you really need a salt of the Earth working class guy, while I see making Steve a more ordinary middle class guy as a good move as it further removes Moonknight from the perception that he's a cheap Batman knock off. For better or worse Bruce Wayne is the Billionaire Playboy, and in the past it even made Ironman feel like it was playing off Batman until they went down the road that atleast with Tony Stark the playboy antics weren't an act, that's really who he is under the armor which differentiated him. As for the episode itself...I think it might have been one of the best Disney has put out so far. The amount of mystery and worldbuilding they put into a single episode was actually pretty impressive, especially as not a single second of it felt like an info dump. I'm excited to see how they build up the mythology of this Moonknight in future episodes.
Something a friend of mine noted (Post-episode 2 speculation): That Jake is probably also active already: Steven had a date with a girl he didn't remember inviting. We think it's Marc that invited her, but in episode 2 we learn that Marc is married and trying very hard to keep the woman he loves out of harm's way and is very focused on stopping the cult, so it seems unlikely that he would be hitting on other women.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 8, 2022 9:36:56 GMT -5
So the second episode was kind of intense. Only grievance that I had was {Spoiler: Click to show} how the Mr. Knight persona was made out to be a joke
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Post by The Captain on Apr 10, 2022 12:54:51 GMT -5
I like the show, but I don't love it yet. Oscar Isaac is doing a fine job bouncing between the awkward Steven and confident Marc personas, and Ethan Hawke is fine as the "villain", not chewing scenery and actually having a understandable motive for his actions. Not sure how I feel about Layla yet, although my younger daughter immediately disliked her; the actual statement was "she's super sus". {Spoilery Thoughts}I wasn't bothered by the general goofiness that Steven Grant displayed in the first couple of episodes. Guy thinks he only has a sleeping disorder, then finds out that he has DID and he isn't sleepwalking but literally living another life, one that is as the avatar of an Egyptian god. That's probably not something where you react well to it.
As for how they treated the Mr. Knight persona in Episode 2, again, it makes sense that Steven doesn't know how the whole "Khonshu's avatar" thing works. He hears "suit", he thinks formal wear, not mummy wrappings with a cowl; he isn't a mercenary but a shop boy, and he fights as such. I'm betting by the end of the show, he gains much more control over Mr. Knight.
I'm interested in seeing how this ties into the MCU overall, as I doubt they do it as a stand-alone (NOTHING Marvel does is a stand-alone). It's not really a Multiverse thing, so maybe it's a Marvel Horror thing with Blade, Werewolf by Night, etc.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 11, 2022 18:29:54 GMT -5
I'm interested in seeing how this ties into the MCU overall, as I doubt they do it as a stand-alone (NOTHING Marvel does is a stand-alone). It's not really a Multiverse thing, so maybe it's a Marvel Horror thing with Blade, Werewolf by Night, etc. I read some interview recently with I think the director (or someone on the staff) that said that they were going for an "Iron Man 1" feel where it's bound to be interconnected at some point, but just alone in it's own little world for now
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 11, 2022 18:46:59 GMT -5
So far they haven't mentioned any other hero at all, or the blip, which seems a bit odd actually. I agree the 2nd ep was better than the 1st. Still not sure where they're going though.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 11, 2022 18:57:05 GMT -5
So far they haven't mentioned any other hero at all, or the blip, which seems a bit odd actually. I agree the 2nd ep was better than the 1st. Still not sure where they're going though. I actually like that it's very much its own thing. Moon Knight has always kind of existed off in its own little world really only crossing over occasionally with the other horror titles and some of the street level characters like Dare Devil and since those characters aren't well established yet there isn't really anyone for him to play with yet.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 11, 2022 19:02:15 GMT -5
...except recently when he tried to take over the Earth, that's pretty true... maybe this will be the beginning of a new 'street level' set up like the Netflix shows? The should at least mention something though... otherwise it feels like it's not legit
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 13, 2022 10:02:01 GMT -5
...except recently when he tried to take over the Earth, that's pretty true... maybe this will be the beginning of a new 'street level' set up like the Netflix shows? The should at least mention something though... otherwise it feels like it's not legit Yeah, there was that and as fun as that story was it was definitely an outlier in regards to Moon Knight's impact on the larger Marvel world. As for the latest episode I was a little bumbed by just how poorly Mark tried to convince the other gods that Harrow was bad especially after Khonshu said they would have to have solid proof. I get it, they needed to fail in order for the story to keep going but it felt pretty shallow and contrived. That aside, the very existence of a court of Egyptian gods with their own avatars out in the world was a fun addition to the mythos of Moon Knight and its definitely something I'd love to see the comics pick up on.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 13, 2022 10:16:16 GMT -5
As for the latest episode I was a little bumbed by just how poorly Mark tried to convince the other gods that Harrow was bad especially after Khonshu said they would have to have solid proof. I get it, they needed to fail in order for the story to keep going but it felt pretty shallow and contrived. I agree, but I think the show would have fallen apart at the seems if Harrow was put away. I mean the gods should have known that Harrow had a definite bone to pick with Khonshu regardless of how sympathetic he was to Marc/Steven's dilemma That aside, the very existence of a court of Egyptian gods with their own avatars out in the world was a fun addition to the mythos of Moon Knight and its definitely something I'd love to see the comics pick up on. In Bemis' run, they did have something like that where an prisoner becomes the avatar for Rah
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Post by spoon on Apr 17, 2022 21:25:59 GMT -5
My Moon Knight comics knowledge is pretty much restricted to portions of the 1970s and 1980s (with a smidge of 90s), so I don't realize that certain aspects are based on comics. I liked the third episode the best. I'm not a fan of plot-induced stupidity though. Like, all the avatars of the gods just believe Harrow without much explanation, and Khonsu can't bother to explain how Harrow murdered innocent people.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 20, 2022 10:06:10 GMT -5
I loved the ending of this episode, looks like they're going full on into Lemire's run for the next episode!
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Post by badwolf on Apr 22, 2022 19:04:51 GMT -5
Sigh. Why do they always jump to the new stuff so quickly?
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