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Post by berkley on Aug 2, 2020 20:53:39 GMT -5
Trying not to read or hear too much about Dark before I start watching it myself. Good to see some German shows gaining some international attention the last few years. For a long time I wondered if there were any good ones with English subtitles as I was seeing or hearing about lots of stuff from the rest of Europe but not from there, which seemed odd considering it's one of the biggest and most important European conutries. The Netflix miniseries with Sigmund Freud was a lot of fun. I definitely recommend it, and it's not overlong. Not historically accurate, of course... but entertaining fiction! Didn't know about that one. Do they work in many other famous people of the era, whether actually connected in any way to Freud or not? There was a good biopic of Lou-Andreas Salomé a year or two back that had a brief scene or two with Freud.
I've also heard Deutschland 1983 is worth a look - I think it's about an East German agent working undercover in the west, set in the 1980s, as the title implies.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 3, 2020 6:04:42 GMT -5
The Netflix miniseries with Sigmund Freud was a lot of fun. I definitely recommend it, and it's not overlong. Not historically accurate, of course... but entertaining fiction! Didn't know about that one. Do they work in many other famous people of the era, whether actually connected in any way to Freud or not?
There's his wife, of course, and since the plot demands it, Kaiser Franz Ferdinand and his son Rudolph. I seem to recall looking up a few other names while watching the series, and a few belonged to historical characters, although they had minor roles. Freud himself is quite unlike his real-world counterpart; it's as if he came out of the Cumberbatch Sherlock Holmes School for Gifted Classic Characters.
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Post by Batflunkie on Aug 18, 2020 9:13:39 GMT -5
Watched the first Sam Rami Spider-Man last night. Couldn't get over how much it felt like Christopher Reeves Superman at some points, especially when Peter rips open his shirt to help save MJ from the Goblin's attack
Did like the mild horror elements that it had
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Post by Batflunkie on Aug 21, 2020 18:18:45 GMT -5
Watched Splendor In The Grass. Recorded it the other day off of TCM and watched it this afternoon, really great movie
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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 22, 2020 4:11:23 GMT -5
Just watched the first episode of Lovecraft Country last night and really liked it. I'm interested in seeing how the series develops:
Otherwise, when I went to YouTube to look for the trailer, I saw that the whole first episode is posted there as well. So that's a good way to watch if you don't have any of the various HBO offerings (Max, To Go, On Demand).
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 7, 2020 15:44:46 GMT -5
In trying to find stuff for my parents to watch that's not garbage we had been watching Foyle's War which they both found they really liked, but having gone through all of those I wanted something along the same lines I thought they'd like, and so I thought of Inspector George Gently. I was only familiar with the later series of the show but thought starting at the beginning was a smart move... wrong. I have no idea why but there is a lot of violence by this Sgt. Bacchus sidekick type police detective guy to the point of ruining the show, and now in a series 3 episode Gently himself encourages young Beatles-haircutted Bacchus to physically beat/interrogate a character obviously disabled! How can a series so much better balanced in the later ones I saw have come from this mess... it's full of everything people might fear of an ITV program, salacious sexual elements and graphic violence, but this was a BBC series!
Well, I now feel a pratt for having cited this show as one of my favorites for so long, I've been embarrassed by most of the episodes in the first three seasons, maybe I had better either zip ahead to season 5 or 6 to salvage things, or just start in on the lighter less gritty-violent-salacious Heartbeat. If you want to give Gently a go my advice is to totally skip season 2 & 3, maybe also 4, I haven't seen that one. Later there is a regular female addition to the cast and Gently has to deal with continuing to work after an MS diagnosis, and Bacchus while still a whinging idiot I don't remember being totally needlessly violent near as much. Shame on the Beeb for trying to tart up a good show with ratings grabbing sax and violins.
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Post by berkley on Sept 7, 2020 16:13:23 GMT -5
First I heard about Inspector George Gently but looking it up I see that it's a 2000s series set in the 1960s, so I wonder if they were raising the violence quotient in an effort to show how CRAZY everything was way back then compared to how civilised and NORMAL everything is now: "What benighted savages they all were in the past!" Kind of like Life on Mars did (very entertainingly, I thought) with the 70s.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 7, 2020 17:54:36 GMT -5
First I heard about Inspector George Gently but looking it up I see that it's a 2000s series set in the 1960s, so I wonder if they were raising the violence quotient in an effort to show how CRAZY everything was way back then compared to how civilised and NORMAL everything is now: "What benighted savages they all were in the past!" Kind of like Life on Mars did (very entertainingly, I thought) with the 70s. In earlier episodes Inspector Gently admonishes Sgt. Bacchus for slapping or hitting suspects and for deciding who is guilty on insufficient evidence, but in this one where one child has been killed he encourages Baccus to viciously beat more than one suspect, and the disabled man even gives a false confession which Gently then sees through. That false confession was to protect a child, the man's niece, who is the actual murderer of the child we eventually find out. She is considered an evil seed because her biological father was an incestuous rapist and Gently is overly compassionate towards her, yet not to at all to the disabled uncle who is entirely innocent. They never apologize to him later which Gently has to others of Sgt. Bacchus's 'victims' in the past, nor the other suspect that was also manhandled (the girl's step-Dad who also gives a false confession trying to protect the girl). It's the worst of a lot that was needlessly graphic and sexual before and ruins the George Gently character trying to make him Cracker or someone else entirely. I think possibly what happened is there were multiple writers and one got some kind of vicarious anger out on the two adult male suspects being grilled for the brutal beating death of the girl's mother and the death of a child and attempt on another. Even if they had been guilty it would be gratuitous beating either, but the one beaten worst is entirely not guilty of anything but that false confession afterwards, nor even of comprehending all of what these police are imaging he might have done to anyone. He actually intercepts one child the evil seed girl was trying to lead off and brings him back to his parents which is doing good. Season 3, Episode 1... set in 1966. The little girl killer gets twenty years+, whereas usually they show someone going to the gallows and being hanged as the end of an episode. I don't remember that as such a regular feature, nor the physical assaults on suspects, in the later series. This is the last one I think we're going to watch, all of us felt brutalized and confused by it. The violence was up there with the most graphic Sopranos, a woman that was beaten to death, the suspects being beaten bloody... not quite Watchmen: The Director's Cut, and it can be important that violence be shown realistically, but there is just no fall-out of Bacchus' well over-the-line procedurally behaviour, only approval and encouragement from Gently where before he at least gave lip service to disapproving and apology to the receiver. It's not even commented on. I would say Sgt. Bacchus got away with an actual crime by both today's standards and 1966's. I was a bit angry over an earlier episode with it's lacking any human humour where there had been some before, and needless brutality, verbal and physical, but this one just makes me fear us watching any more and wishing I'd stopped with that previous episode, or even never having recommended it as a series.
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Post by berkley on Sept 7, 2020 21:18:31 GMT -5
If I ever follow through on my plan to explore British crime fiction in depth I might try reading a few of the books from the series of novels by Alan Hunter that the show was apparently based on. Looks like it started in 1955 and carried on to 1999 with a new book almost every year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 23:56:31 GMT -5
Adult Swim has cancelled Venture Bros. I really hope it gets picked up, even if they just get to do a movie. Apparently they were halfway through writing on the final season when it was cancelled.
I am really bummed.
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 8, 2020 11:35:24 GMT -5
In trying to find stuff for my parents to watch that's not garbage we had been watching Foyle's War which they both found they really liked, but having gone through all of those I wanted something along the same lines I thought they'd like, May I suggest "Endeavour"? Similar to "Foyle's War" ( a series I also enjoyed) in many ways, especially in the cerebral, low-key approach the protagonists approach crime-solving. Great acting, especially from Roger Allam as Morse's mentor/ father figure and Anton Lesser as Superintendent Bright, in addition to Shaun Evans' portrayal of Morse. These are the early years of Inspector Morse (a show I haven't yet watched, btw), set in the 60s and 70s, one particular year per series. They go from around 1965 through oh, by now about 1973 or so. Easter eggs and quirkiness abound; there are some excellent mysteries, some just average, but overall, thanks primarily to the humanity of the characters and the quality of the acting, it's a fine series.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 8, 2020 11:58:17 GMT -5
In trying to find stuff for my parents to watch that's not garbage we had been watching Foyle's War which they both found they really liked, but having gone through all of those I wanted something along the same lines I thought they'd like, May I suggest "Endeavour"? Similar to "Foyle's War" ( a series I also enjoyed) in many ways, especially in the cerebral, low-key approach the protagonists approach crime-solving. Great acting, especially from Roger Allam as Morse's mentor/ father figure and Anton Lesser as Superintendent Bright, in addition to Shaun Evans' portrayal of Morse. These are the early years of Inspector Morse (a show I haven't yet watched, btw), set in the 60s and 70s, one particular year per series. They go from around 1965 through oh, by now about 1973 or so. Easter eggs and quirkiness abound; there are some excellent mysteries, some just average, but overall, thanks primarily to the humanity of the characters and the quality of the acting, it's a fine series. I've watched two Endeavours and liked them, especially liked the one with the Gerry (& Sylvia) Anderson tribute! It might be a bit too involved sometimes for my father though... my mother reads more crime fiction than anyone I've ever known of (averaging a novel every other day) so it's probably impossible to hit that perfect spot that pleases both parents. My Dad has read a lot on the war he was a toddler during, and with Foyle's War he would explain things to my Mom (and me) about that, and then my Mom would explain the whodunnit part sometimes where he (or me too) hadn't followed it. They both liked Sam the driver, I'm thinking the lighter Heartbeat about a constable in rural '60s England might be appealing, plus they will like the late '50s-'60s music in it. The other things we can watch together besides Jeopardy is the old On The Road with Charles Kuralt, Antiques Roadshow (preferably the British one), and a newer show called The Repair Shop where people bring in old heirlooms for fixing/restoration. They went wild for the Shogun mini-series but there weren't many shows like that. It's possible I'll try some Endeavours or Morses though and see what they think. My Mom and I watched a series titled Mayday for however long that went until the big Broadchurch type mystery was solved, and also a supernatural series that lasted two seasons titled After Life (my Dad would hate that kind of thing though with psychics and supernatural stuff). I've watched Shetland and Happy Valley on my own.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 8, 2020 12:18:20 GMT -5
Several BBC (short series of course) shows I quite like and can recommend within the overall detective/mystery vein are:
Injustice, created by Anthony Horowitz who also did Foyle's War, starring James Purefoy as a London defense barrister who has left to the Suffolk countryside with his family and has to defend an old friend in a local homicide investigation.
Then there are 3 starring Robson Green that will capture your interest with his deftly dark acting. Touching Evil is a British take upon Criminal Minds where a Organized Serial Crimes unit deftly seeks to solve cases through advanced police techniques. Green though, who was shot in the head now has an instinctual knack for connecting with the criminal mind. Then there is Wire in the Blood where Green portrays a criminal psychologist with an offputting/alienating personality utilizing unorthodox methods of building criminal profiles. Robson Green's 3rd show is a musical comedy set in 1940"s wartime London. He is a charming draft dodger who plays in a big band orchestra and is teamed with a heroic ex RAF pilot. They dislike each other but are united in struggles against wartime gangsters, espionage games and exploding bombs to save themselves and England.
My final pleasure is the splendid exquisite delight of Jeeves and Wooster. Spectacular, stylish and witty period piece with Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry as they go gallivanting across the countryside in and out of mischief.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 8, 2020 12:59:10 GMT -5
6 more BBC favorite's of which I watch very regularly:
Rowan Atkinson's Black Adder. Starts slow but truly uproarious laugh inducing belly pain from season 2, 3 and 4.
John Cleese's Fawlty Towers provides you the worst vacation hotel stay you will ever have but you will check out laughing loudly.
Waiting for God starring Stephanie Cole and Graham Crowden all about growing old with charm and disgrace in a British retirement village. These 2 old fogies choose to NOT grow old gracefully in being non-conformist in fighting authority each day even should it be to their last breath...
Then from comedy to fantasy and historical drama. First up the spectacular mini-series I spent many a Sunday night sitting up late to watch on Masterpiece Theatre: I Claudius which propelled Riman History into Must See TV for many of us. So many great actors to watch with Derek Jacobi, Brian, Patrick Stewart and John Hurt as Caligula!
Then there is Robin of Sherwood with not one but 2 Hoooded men in Michael Praed and Jason Connery. Such a dark fantasy epic series enhanced with orchestral splendor from Clannad setting the tone and mood of the series. Much as I love Errol Flynn, this show is what Robin Hood should be.
Last and certainly not least is a splendid mystery adaptation by Ian McShane as the one and only Lovejoy. Dealer of great and not so great antiquities, love and mysteries. Always in more trouble than out our man Lovejoy schmooze's his way in and out of shenanigans as a natural way of life for himself. Charming everyone, but especially the ladies along the way...
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 8, 2020 16:02:00 GMT -5
Hadn't heard of Injustice, thanks for that! I'll keep an eye open...
I loved Blackadder as well as Waiting For God. Recently enjoyed the Open All Hours Again revival well enough. David Jason finds himself (re)living the part Ronnie Barker had, and even some of the bits and lines. I used to watch a family britcom titled 2.4 Children that was genuinely funny, they even visited Portmeirion and the Dad got chased by a 'rover' ala The Prisoner. More recent comedies I've liked were Vicious with Ian McKellan and Derek Jacobi as a couple and the lady from Rising Damp as a neighbour, and Hippies with Simon Pegg. Not for everyone though I suppose.
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