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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 1:59:46 GMT -5
In the 1940's ... No. 41 ALL STAR COMICS This is an landmark issue of the first time in history to have two female superheroes on a COVER of a very popular comic book in that era and I just wanted to share this because I thought it was incredible to see both BLACK CANARY and WONDER WOMAN on the cover of which during that time frame it was largely dominated by Men. In my defense - it was a very significant issue and back then it was unthinkable to see this. I call this a pioneer issue and rightly so. Another One ... is an landmark issue of No. 38 Detective Comics ...  Is the first appearance of ROBIN THE BOY WONDER and it's paved the way of our Society that even Superheroes can have Sidekicks and that's was incredible to see a young boy gracing the cover of a very popular comic book magazine back then. Those are the only two that pops up in my mind and those are worthy to be mentioned here. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 7, 2014 7:58:10 GMT -5
30's: Action Comics #1 (First appearance of Superman and the birth of the superhero.)
40's: Captain America Comics #1 (Kirby's first great creation)
50's: MAD #1 (Edges out Showcase #4 because I feel its influence not just on humor comics, but satire and comedy in general (The Simpsons, etc.) is enormous.)
60's: Fantastic Four #1 (Birth of the Marvel Age)
70's: Cerebus #1 (The longest running self-published comic who's uniqueness and influence can't be overstated.)
80's: The Dark Knight Returns #1 (Edges out Watchmen #1 only because it took a mainstream hero in Batman and used him in a sophisticated way that hadn't been seen before.)
90's: Sandman #19 (First, and only, comic to win the World Fantasy Award for short fiction)
I'll hold off on the 2000's for now. I've read some good comics since 2000, but I don't think there has been anything game changing or historic, at least creatively, since The Sandman the 90's. (Though stuff like Saga might make my list in a few years. I like to let new stuff age a bit first.)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 7, 2014 10:36:33 GMT -5
I don't think anyone (But Phil) can Argue with Action #1 as the most important of the 30s. I'd go with SHowcase #4 for the 50s, more because I consider Mad a magazine more than a comic.
I don't really know much about the 40s, but I'd say Archie probably wins.. especially since (I Think) the first Marvel stuff (Captain America, that is) was still in the 30s.
For the 60s, I'd go with AF #15, as the birth of the Marvel Universe, but I'd be OK with FF #1, too.
The 70s and the 80s are TOUGH.
From a business stand point, I can see Cerebus, but if we're going the indy route, I'd pick Elfquest #1. While Cerebus was perhaps longer running... Elfquest became both a franchise, and a publisher in it's own right (if not for long). Also, I'd argue the Pinis were more of an positive influence in the industry than Dave Sim. Who knows if Valiant, Malibu, First, etc could have even happened if Warp didn't lead the way? I can see Conan as well, though I'd question it's influence outside us big fans.
For the 80s, my got instinct though is Secret Wars #8.. arguable the start of the 'Grim 'n' Gritty' age. I can also seen DKR.. but to pick between that and Watchmen as far as their influence is very hard...which DKR was a few months earilier, I don't think one influenced the other. Then there's Sandman #1, which cemented the Vertigo line, and made mature readers comics something that was the real deal, not just a passing fad. It also opened the door for today's 'literary' comics (such as Fables, Books of Magic and Unwritten), a genre that didn't exist before. Then, of course, there's Crisis. Then there's TMNT, and the subsequent rise of the indies. Any of those could be a vaild pick.
the 90s... ugh. Well, Spawn #1 is a good one, but I'd argue the 'Image era' and speculator boom started with the 5-covered X-Men #1.... if that's your goal.. that's the one you should pick. I'm not sure what else.
Walking Dead #1 is a good pick for the 2000s, but it's tough to say.. it certainly wasn't at the time. it sure is now though. Both the 'buy the rights for the movie/TV show' nonsense and the rise of trades can really be tied to that little ole zombie tale. I also see it as a bit of a changing of the guard as far as talent goes, too.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Nov 7, 2014 11:40:14 GMT -5
I went with Sandman #19 since I couldn't choose Sandman #1 because its debut was 1989. Pesky timeline, that one. I strongly considered Conan and Giant Size X-Men for the 70's.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 13:04:39 GMT -5
1930s: Action Comics #1
1940s: Batman #1
1950s: Weird Fantasy #1
1960s: Fantastic Four #1
1970s: Giant-Size X-Men #1
1980s: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1
1990s: Kingdom Come #1
2000s: Y the Last Man #1
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Post by fanboystranger on Nov 7, 2014 13:25:26 GMT -5
I think we can make a strong case for American Flagg! 1 for the '80s. It was the book that showed that a mature book driven by creator's vision could also sell well, opening the door for all the books that followed in its footsteps in the commercial end of the medium, and it presented a far more sophisticated level of storytelling than N American commercial comics had really seen up until that point. It's influence on the changing face of comics can't really be denied, particularly in the post-Crisis period at DC. Alan Moore would cite it as a major influence-- even going so far as volunteering to write backups for the book-- and Frank Miller obviously cribbed a lot from it for DKR. It's a milestone for the medium and a true gamechanger, but because it was out of print for so long, it doesn't quite the attention it deserves.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 7, 2014 13:37:40 GMT -5
I was thinking last night that the most important book of the 1970s might well have been 2000 AD #1. Without that publication, the British invasion that dominated and shaped comic books of the 1980s might never have arrived.
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 7, 2014 13:44:28 GMT -5
My complete list:
1930's: Action Comics #1
1940's: Pep Comics #22
1950's: Showcase #4
1960's: Amazing Fantasy #15
1970's: Green Lantern/Green Arrow #85
1980's: Watchmen #1
1990's: Spawn #1
2000's: Walking Dead #1
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 7, 2014 14:32:03 GMT -5
A least one fan that I know of has written that the most important comic book of the 1970s was Star*Reach #1 - the first independently-published comic aimed at mainstream fans (as opposed to underground comix, which were aimed at hippies). Star*Reach predates Cerebus and Elfquest.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 7, 2014 14:35:07 GMT -5
I don't think anyone (But Phil) can Argue with Action #1 as the most important of the 30s. New Fun Comics #1  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 15:41:36 GMT -5
JLA SilverAgeFan's Picks1930s: Action Comics #1 Superman's 1st Appearance 1940s: All Star Comics #41 and Detective Comics #38Black Canary and Wonder Woman on the Cover of All Star Comics and Robin's 1st Appearance 1950s: MAD Comics #1MAD Comics made it smashing debut - and the rest is history 1960s: The Brave and the Bold #28Justice League of America's 1st Appearance 1970s: The Amazing Spider-Man #96-98Three Issues without the Comic Code of Approval 1980s: DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths Series and Marvel Super-Hero Secret Wars SeriesTwo Blockbuster Events from each Major Comic Book Company 1990s: Superman #75Death of Superman 2000s: DC: The New FrontierShuster Award-winning six-issue comic book limited series written and drawn by Darwyn Cooke
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Post by dupersuper on Nov 7, 2014 16:16:19 GMT -5
1930s Action 1 Superman
1940s Sensation 1 Wonder Woman
1950s Showcase 4 silver age begins
1960s an early Marvel book: take your pick really, so many classic Marvel heroes debuted/returned here
1970s American Splendor 1
1980s I can't even...Crisis, Secret Wars, Watchmen, Dark Knight Returns, Ronin, Batman Year 1, Man of Steel, Wonder Woman 1, Justice League 1, Death of Captain Mar-vel, Camelot 3000, Animal Man 1, Sandman 1, beginning of Moore Swamp Thing, Constantine 1, Zot...
1990s Superman 82 (I'm a Supes fan, to me seeing him return was much more satisfying than seeing him die)
2000s first issue of Sinestro Corps War
2010s Waids Daredevil 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 16:21:51 GMT -5
40s - no idea
50s - Detective Comics #225 (1st Martian Manhunter)
60s - Brave & Bold #28 (1st Justice League ft Martian Manhunter)
70s - no idea
80s - DeMatties' Martian Manhunter #1
90s - Ostrander's Martian Manhunter #1
00s - no idea
10s - no idea
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 7, 2014 16:34:47 GMT -5
I don't think anyone (But Phil) can Argue with Action #1 as the most important of the 30s. New Fun Comics #1 Dude, did you see that e-bay auction? As the kids say.... 'Scoreboard' |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 7, 2014 16:36:49 GMT -5
40s - no idea 50s - Detective Comics #225 (1st Martian Manhunter) 60s - Brave & Bold #28 (1st Justice League ft Martian Manhunter) 70s - no idea 80s - DeMatties' Martian Manhunter #1 90s - Ostrander's Martian Manhunter #1 00s - no idea 10s - no idea Mars totally wins the thread.. that's devotion right there  |
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