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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 16, 2014 8:51:58 GMT -5
I have a good handful of HM, most of all the Epic Illustrated and even some Rook, but I don't recall having ever seen Enki Bilbal. Any specific issue references to this work? That picture is amazing. Enki Bilal is one of my favorite comics creator. His work is gorgeous and always thought provoking. I think his most prominant work in Metal Hurlant would have been Exterminator 17, which has a nice HC edition. It's good, but not as great as his "Towncapes" work, The Hunting Party, The Black Order Brigade, The Nikopol Trilogy, or the Beasts Tetralogy. He seems to be more invested in film work these days, including directing a pretty good adaptation of Nikopol called Immortal that's worth watching. Thank you for the recommendations. Once I get past Christmas for my boys, I'll be getting into comics again, and will probably continue where I left off three years ago with non superhero stuff.
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Post by fanboystranger on Nov 16, 2014 12:03:38 GMT -5
Enki Bilal is one of my favorite comics creator. His work is gorgeous and always thought provoking. I think his most prominant work in Metal Hurlant would have been Exterminator 17, which has a nice HC edition. It's good, but not as great as his "Towncapes" work, The Hunting Party, The Black Order Brigade, The Nikopol Trilogy, or the Beasts Tetralogy. He seems to be more invested in film work these days, including directing a pretty good adaptation of Nikopol called Immortal that's worth watching. Thank you for the recommendations. Once I get past Christmas for my boys, I'll be getting into comics again, and will probably continue where I left off three years ago with non superhero stuff. Cool. You won't be disappointed by Bilal. The only problem is that a lot of his stuff can be difficult to be found in English translations as he switched publishers a few years ago from Humanoids to Casterman. Casterman has a deal with Archaia, but we haven't gotten any Bilal work from them and I'm got sure how much the merger with BOOM! has effected Archaia's European comics mandate. The best bet may be a look for some of his work on the secondary market. I know I found the DC/Humanoids edition of Towncapes for something like $7US on Amazon Marketplace and the Hunting Party HC for $15.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 16, 2014 13:56:39 GMT -5
Whereas the 2000 A.D. Is a more direct connection, and maybe a stronger short term influence, I think HM gave gloss, sophistication and awe to my generation that they hadn't seen before. It's not the first thing a person thinks of as it's not directly a comic, kind of like the Shadow pulps in the 1930's entry, but, I'll bet if you asked the creators of that age what influence it had, along with Epic Illustrated, it would be significant, despite the fact that yes, esp HM, was a lot of crap. Most comics were crap too, honestly, but that doesn't mean we didn't love em. And let's not gloss over the cream that was in HM. That's what really set minds ablaze. Jean "Moebius" Giraud Milo Manara Enki Bilal Philippe Druillet Tanino Liberatore H.R. Giger Richard Corben HM stepped up the sophistication and raised the bar of what could be. It was glossy heroin that blew the doors off of the standard newsstand comics of the time. The stories were mostly crap, but the images were what opened your wallet and burned into your mind. This influenced not only fans but a generation of creators. I think it's equally important the 2000 A.D. and HM influences; one was more direct and one was more widespread and had a ripple effect that took longer to connect. I guess what I was trying to get at is that the 2000AD influence is pretty obvious, but you have to dig a bit more to see that MH/HM influence. Mostly because the process for those MH/HM comics was so different in terms of a more generous time allotment and creator freedom. You don't see that level of detail in the average workmanlike American monthly comic because no one could work at that level with a monthly deadline. Whereas the 6-8 page weekly model of 2000AD fits more easily within the framework of the 20-22 page monthly comic. Where you see that MH/HM influence is on special projects, mini-series, etc, but not the monthly American comic book, which is why I like that Walt Simonson is releeasing Ragnarok on a bi-monthly schedule to start, Mike Mignola does Hellboy in Hell when the whim strikes him, Ted McKeever essentially puts out one weird, idiosyncratic Image mini a year, Sandman: Overture is published on Gaiman's and Williams III's terms rather than forced as a monthly, etc. But that's certainly not the norm for N American comics. Quite right, esp at the time frame we're referencing. You're point about the weekly release schedule is quite apt. These two examples are obviously at different ends of the spectrum in that regard. It's great that we can have these vanity high-end projects, but we need people that can stick to a schedule and keep the presses rolling as well, like Mark Bagley.
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