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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 17, 2022 15:07:53 GMT -5
For the same reason people become influencers and spiritual gurus: money! Blonsky even admitted he did it solely for money. There's never enough money in a capitalist system! True, the writers didn't seem to focus overmuch on characters' motivations (and beyond her motivation, I don't understand how Titania can crash into a courtroom and not end up in jail). But when it comes to Blonsky, I'm sure he didn't break parole just to help those guys. He's probably got many more speaking engagements, and he has a career in the superpowered UFC league (as seen in Shang-Chi and the first episodes). He just wants the perks of being the Abomination without the drawback of being in a jail cell.Which to me is completely understandable, especially as in the movie continuity his whole transformation wasn't some evil plot but something he was ordered to do. Sure, he took more of the formula but he didn't expect to turn into a monster. He's a lot more of a tragic character in the movies than the comics so his turn here was really fun to see. Indeed! I was delighted when Blonsky was revealed not to be faking his makeover. I was a bit worried when he showed up at the anti-She-Hulk party at the end, but it turned out to be all right. Too bad he's lost his ashram, though.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 17, 2022 15:13:08 GMT -5
Which to me is completely understandable, especially as in the movie continuity his whole transformation wasn't some evil plot but something he was ordered to do. Sure, he took more of the formula but he didn't expect to turn into a monster. He's a lot more of a tragic character in the movies than the comics so his turn here was really fun to see. Indeed! I was delighted when Blonsky was revealed not to be faking his makeover. I was a bit worried when he showed up at the anti-She-Hulk party at the end, but it turned out to be all right. Too bad he's lost his ashram, though. I kind of hope his support group gets to keep the retreat, those guys deserve a good home and I'd love to see it used again in the future. Maybe they could move Trevor Slattery there and have it funded by Shang-Chi? I think he's supposed to cameo in the Wonderman show, which I really hope keeps the same light hearted tone that She-Hulk had.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 17, 2022 20:44:16 GMT -5
Your question is a valid one, but on the other hand, why violate parole just to soup up his motivational speeches? Seems like the writers just didn't consider motivations for any of the characters in this show beyond Jen. Why do any of them do what they do? Why did Titania come crashing through that wall and terrorize the courthouse? Why did Blonske break parole and what was he doing with those guys if he was going to defend Jen right after? I just don't think they cared enough to consider any of this. People violate their paroles all the time for all kinds of reason so I don't think it really needed a deep reason to happen or be believable. well, he should have a motivation, shouldn't he? If it's money, show us that he cares about money. Even just a line like, "do you think this retreat pays for itself?" or something. The show asked us to suspect Blonske hadn't reformed and then surprised us by showing that he actually had. Flipping that again without any motivation is cheap. If it doesn't bother you, that's all well and good, but it really does bother me. Yet another dropped character arc in the final episode -- what happened to all those wives? We never see nor hear about a single one of them at the retreat. There seem to be four other people anywhere on the property at any given time until the climactic scene. I just needed it to be explained, really. The fact that he was hosting them on his property further suggests it was more than a motivational speach booking, but it really doesn't make sense either way. Interesting. It never occured to me that we were supposed to suspect Blonske was the Hulk King. That guy at the retreat who jumped Jen previously raised some suspicion at least, but I never suspected he was running things -- just that he might use Jen's vulnerability during group therapy to further hurt her. I don't want to convince you to enjoy any aspect of the show less. I'm just very frustrated by the writing/plotting, myself.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 17, 2022 20:46:31 GMT -5
Your question is a valid one, but on the other hand, why violate parole just to soup up his motivational speeches? For the same reason people become influencers and spiritual gurus: money! Blonsky even admitted he did it solely for money. There's never enough money in a capitalist system! (Oops... thwhtguardian beat me to it).True, the writers didn't seem to focus overmuch on characters' motivations (and beyond her motivation, I don't understand how Titania can crash into a courtroom and not end up in jail). But when it comes to Blonsky, I'm sure he didn't break parole just to help those guys. He's probably got many more speaking engagements, and he has a career in the superpowered UFC league (as seen in Shang-Chi and the first episodes). He just wants the perks of being the Abomination without the drawback of being in a jail cell. I like your take on Blonske a lot, but how much of that did the show convey and how much of it is you filling in the blanks yourself? And when did he admit he was in it for the money?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 18, 2022 6:02:10 GMT -5
For the same reason people become influencers and spiritual gurus: money! Blonsky even admitted he did it solely for money. There's never enough money in a capitalist system! (Oops... thwhtguardian beat me to it).True, the writers didn't seem to focus overmuch on characters' motivations (and beyond her motivation, I don't understand how Titania can crash into a courtroom and not end up in jail). But when it comes to Blonsky, I'm sure he didn't break parole just to help those guys. He's probably got many more speaking engagements, and he has a career in the superpowered UFC league (as seen in Shang-Chi and the first episodes). He just wants the perks of being the Abomination without the drawback of being in a jail cell. I like your take on Blonske a lot, but how much of that did the show convey and how much of it is you filling in the blanks yourself? And when did he admit he was in it for the money? When Jen challenges him after she finds him onstage. It goes like "Emil, you've been turning into the Abomination?" "Er... Yeah, I have a few speaking engagements. Nothing bad, strictly for profit". "I vouched for you!!!" Actually, watching that scene again, it's clear that Emil has no idea who these guys are. The writers play a joke on us, subverting our expectations, as we suddenly expect Emil to have been a bad guy all along, but his speech is purely generic motivational pap... it's goes "it's really a honour to be your humble life-coach for the evening. I've been told you folks have been making amazing progress in seizing your goals... Am I right? Todd here tells me that you were all unsatisfied with your place in the world... Don't ask permission! Be powerful! YOU are the only boss!" It may be too much revelation/counter-revelation in one go (leaving us uncertain as to what's going on), but it's certainly not what we'd normally expect; so in that sense, I quite like that sequence!
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Post by shaxper on Oct 18, 2022 6:06:22 GMT -5
I like your take on Blonske a lot, but how much of that did the show convey and how much of it is you filling in the blanks yourself? And when did he admit he was in it for the money? When Jen challenges him after she finds him onstage. It goes like "Emil, you've been turning into the Abomination?" "Er... Yeah, I have a few speaking engagements. Nothing bad, strictly for profit". "I vouched for you!!!" Actually, watching that scene again, it's clear that Emil has no idea who these guys are. The writers play a joke on us, subverting our expectations, as we suddenly expect Emil to have been a bad guy all along, but his speech is purely generic motivational pap... it's goes "it's really a honour to be your humble life-coach for the evening. I've been told you folks have been making amazing progress in seizing your goals... Am I right? Todd here tells me that you were all unsatisfied with your place in the world... Don't ask permission! Be powerful! YOU are the only boss!" It may be too much revelation/counter-revelation in one go (leaving us uncertain as to what's going on), but it's certainly not what we'd normally expect; so in that sense, I quite like that sequence! It's funny: I remember all of those lines, but I didn't really process them at the time. You're right - too much in one go. So at least there was a plan for Blonske there; it was just easy to miss. Thanks!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 3, 2022 17:03:33 GMT -5
She-Hulk Pitch Meeting....
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Post by badwolf on Nov 4, 2022 10:07:03 GMT -5
She-Hulk Pitch Meeting.... Barley an inconvenience!
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