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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 10:46:53 GMT -5
impulse - that's so awesome on the Marty show! I'm jealous, that sounds like an amazing experience 
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Post by commond on Apr 25, 2023 8:49:03 GMT -5
Does anyone have any 90s metal they like? I love 80s metal, but I have a hard time getting into 90s metal.
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Post by impulse on Apr 25, 2023 9:33:08 GMT -5
Does anyone have any 90s metal they like? I love 80s metal, but I have a hard time getting into 90s metal. Sure! There were definitely some dire times for metal in the 90s, but there were some gems. If I recall you enjoy a lot of 80s thrash, and I do, too, so hopefully some of what has grabbed me will also stand out to you. Fear Factory - Soul of a New Machine and Demanufacture. They borrow from multiple styles, most predominantly thrash, death, groove and industrial. These are my favorites by them, from 92 and 95 respectively. Type O Negative. I'm not huge on goth otherwise, but they are good and hilarious. They have slow heavy parts but can thrash it up on occasion. My favorite album of theirs is Bloody Kisses. The song Black No. 1 makes me laugh out loud. White Zombie's 90s albums are pretty good groove metal albums. A lot of band that got big in the 00s got started in the 90s and had some solid stuff. Nevermore, Symphony X, Arch Enemy.
A lot of the 80s guys put out some great albums in the 90s. Megadeth's Rust in Peace, Slayer's Seasons in the Abyss, Judas Priest's Painkiller. If you an tolerate nu metal, the first album or two by Korn, System of a Down and Slipknot started in the 90s and are pretty good. Disturbed's first album is the most unique and my favorite of theirs. Thrashy riffs, slow groovy tempos and drums, and a smidge of industrial. If you don't like any of that, I got nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 11:23:39 GMT -5
impulse - great selections. I'll add from the early to mid 90's: Pantera- Cowboys, Vulgar Display, Far Beyond Driven Overkill – Horrorscope (I actually LOVE this one, one of my all-time favorite Overkill albums, their cover of Edgar Winter's Frankenstein is worth the price of admission alone) Testament – The Ritual (underrated last classic era album with Skolnick, opening instrumental followed by Electric Crown is killer) Sanctuary – Into the Mirror Black (before there was Nevermore there was Sanctuary) Annihilator – Never, Neverland After that I'd more second the aforementioned Symphony X (maybe start on their 2nd or 3rd album, different singer on the first) as well as the related Michael Romeo 1994 Dark Chapter instrumental album/demo, Nevermore, and I like Blind Guardian (power metal but some great vocals and riffs) as well. Late 90's was more death metal for me, if you can tolerate the vocals the first two Children of Bodom albums were are the end of the decade, though their live Tokyo Warhearts in 1999 is a great starting point. Primal Fear also had their first two albums at the end of the 90's featuring the most excellent vocals of Ralf Scheepers (ex-Gamma Ray), I think very accessible to someone coming from the 80's as a reference.
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Post by impulse on Apr 25, 2023 12:51:23 GMT -5
@jaska
Oh, good call on death metal. I'd like to add Carcass to my list, specifically the albums Heartwork and Swansong. Start with the song Buried Dreams. If that doesn't grab you, maybe don't spend too much time on them.
Sepultura had Arise and Chaos AD in 91 and 93. Those should be right up your alley. If you don't hate nu metal, their Roots album is good for what it is.
They're not purely metal, but Alice in Chains Dirt album is fantastic and blurs the line between rock and metal.
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Post by commond on Apr 27, 2023 19:05:13 GMT -5
I listened to the first three Fear Factory albums. The first two are pretty grunty. The third album incorporates more of a techno/industrial sound, but was fairly good. I will slowly make my way through the other recommendations.
I've listened to plenty of early 90s stuff when thrash was still prominent. It's from around 1993 that I start experiencing a disconnect with metal. My favorite band from the 90s is probably Death, and I like some of the death metal groups and even some power metal acts, but I was listening to some of the more highly rated albums from 1993 the other day and nothing was clicking.
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Post by impulse on Apr 28, 2023 9:39:05 GMT -5
Glad you found some you liked. Yeah, if you don't like grunty vocals those first couple can be rough. Obsolete was their commercial breakthrough album though I still prefer the previous, Demanufacture.
Yeah, mid-late 90s was a pretty bleak time for a lot of the older metal styles. A lot of the existing bands were influenced by the nu-metal style of the times, and a lot of the new stuff was obviously that. Not to say there was no good more classic metal out there.
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Post by Axe Elf on May 10, 2023 20:06:55 GMT -5
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Post by commond on May 15, 2023 8:17:04 GMT -5
I listened to several Symphony X records. Not a style of metal I'd usually listen to, but fairly ambitious. They reminded me of Dream Theater, though I imagine that's a trite comparison for their fans. My favorite album was The Odyssey.
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Post by impulse on May 15, 2023 9:48:33 GMT -5
I listened to several Symphony X records. Not a style of metal I'd usually listen to, but fairly ambitious. They reminded me of Dream Theater, though I imagine that's a trite comparison for their fans. My favorite album was The Odyssey. I like The Odyssey, as well, though I prefer their next one, Paradise Lost. In particular, the two-part opening track Occulus Ex Inferni that flows right into Set the World On Fire (The Lie of Lies) is my favorite piece by them. It sounds like an epic movie score. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 15:26:40 GMT -5
Does anyone have any 90s metal they like? I love 80s metal, but I have a hard time getting into 90s metal. Dehumanizer from Black Sabbath (Dio returned for just this record) is just as good as H&H or Mob Rules. It gets extra points because I don't need to make an extra effort to pick out the bass. Motorhead was the most consistently impressive metal act in the '90's. Bastards is my favorite from that decade, but my favorite post-Eddie Clark record is 2004's Inferno. I like every Bruce Dickinson solo album of the 1990s. I would say his best is Balls To Picasso. After that, I have a hard time recommending full albums. Can't ignore a whole decade of Dio. There's a 1994 Milwaukee show with Tracy G on guitar that gets a lot of play from me. I don't remember if it's a bonus show from a recent re-release of an official album or if it's a bootleg, though. Of course, the setlist is mostly older songs, but the newer songs are good, and Tracy puts a unique spin on the older ones. Geezer Butler's Black Science was unexpectedly extra heavy (I guess Gillan's complaints of his involvement in the production of Born Again should have prepared me), and mostly darn good. I've always considered Udo Dirkschneider to be over-looked as a metal vocalist. He sounds so effortlessly demonic. All of his records are mostly filler, but also, most of his records have worthwhile standouts. His song-writing in the '90s didn't (and still doesn't) stray far from the '80s straight-down-the-middle metal aesthetic. Complete with cheesy lyrics, but, eh, it's only rock and roll. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 11:14:07 GMT -5
I got my motorcycle license back over the weekend. I lost it the last time I had to renew my license - I was randomly picked to take the written tests for both auto (easy) and motorcycle (not so easy - I flunked). The class was free (just a $20 deposit) and they provided the bikes. It's like Illinois wants you to be a motorcyclist. We don't even have any pesky helmet laws (although I'm a all-helmet, all-the-time guy). And my wife has agreed to us purchasing a brand new motorcycle, which will be the first factory-new vehicle purchase of my life.
I was going to post this in "Meanwhile", but then I thought it's a good enough of an excuse to bump the metal thread.
Yes, every time I get back into riding, this song plays in a loop in my head for a few days. If anybody was ever dorky about metal, you're looking at him.
Saxon's one of those groups that I have a hard time finding people that appreciate them as much as I do, along with Raven and Accept. Not that I'm fanatic about any of them myself, but I think they could use a bit more appreciation once in a while.
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Post by impulse on Jun 27, 2023 21:29:53 GMT -5
I think if you ride a motorcycle, listening to metal should be mandatory.
Also, it looks like Supercat has apparently deleted his account?? If true, that is a huge loss to CCF in general and the Metal Thread in particular. I don't have other contact info for him, so I only hope everything is okay and he comes back if and when he is ready.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 21:50:12 GMT -5
I think if you ride a motorcycle, listening to metal should be mandatory. Also, it looks like Supercat has apparently deleted his account?? If true, that is a huge loss to CCF in general and the Metal Thread in particular. I don't have other contact info for him, so I only hope everything is okay and he comes back if and when he is ready. I noticed that Supercat was missing too. My visiting has been sporadic, so I don't know if I missed something. Whatever's going on, I hope for his return, as well as for the people behind our other recent lost accounts. IIRC, when I bought my helmet, they told me I have the option to add a bluetooth upgrade. As much as it would enhance the experience, I also don't want the distraction. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 13:20:17 GMT -5
impulse With some time having passed since my first hard look at Megadeth a couple years ago, Dave and the boys came back around on my natural rotation of deep-diving into groups in my collection. Now that they're one of "my" groups, some thoughts: I'm having a much easier time of appreciating the uniqueness of certain songs. Some songs that I wrote off before as generic Megadeth, like Hangar 18 and Tornado Of Souls, I'm really digging now, to the point where I don't know why I considered them generic before. Ellefson is just about everything I want in a metal bass player. And, partly to demonstrate that I'm not just sucking up to Mega-impulse - Marty Friedman isn't even my second-favorite second guitar player in Megadeth. No complaints, of course, but I prefer the Poland albums, and then I tend to jump to 21st century Megadeth for "Hell Yeah!" lead guitar. I've soured somewhat on the less-thrashy late-90s Megadeth, where before, that period was a hook to help me get into them. Now, you're a poseur if you like that crap! (kidding)
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