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Post by impulse on Sept 11, 2023 11:52:13 GMT -5
The Latin American love of metal is legendary. If you ever get to see Metallica's Orgullo, Pasión, y Gloria: Tres Noches en la Ciudad de México concert (I have it on DVD), it has great interviews and candid moments with the folks in Mexico City who are pumped to see Metallica. You can't help but get swept up in their enthusiasm, it makes me wish I could go see a concert with them. Anthrax's Chile on Hell DVD captures some of that as well. Then you have bands themselves like the legendary Sepultura out of Brazil, the power metal band Angra is out of there as well. My college metal band was down in New Mexico, and we had 2-3 Latino members at various points. Yeah. I've always gotten the notion metal is HUGE down there. Multiple metal bands have released live recordings in Latin America. Megadeth did a double live album That One Night in Buenos Aires. The one you mention above. The Seattle '89 set gets the attention, but Metallica's legendary live box set Live Sh*t Binge and Purge contains a Mexico City '91 set on CD. Amazing as Seattle was, I don't know why the Mexico City set is left out of discussions because they were a force of nature then, man. You can feel the energy just oozing out of every part of the speaker |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2023 15:09:41 GMT -5
The Latin American love of metal is legendary. If you ever get to see Metallica's Orgullo, Pasión, y Gloria: Tres Noches en la Ciudad de México concert (I have it on DVD), it has great interviews and candid moments with the folks in Mexico City who are pumped to see Metallica. You can't help but get swept up in their enthusiasm, it makes me wish I could go see a concert with them. Anthrax's Chile on Hell DVD captures some of that as well. Then you have bands themselves like the legendary Sepultura out of Brazil, the power metal band Angra is out of there as well. My college metal band was down in New Mexico, and we had 2-3 Latino members at various points. Yeah. I've always gotten the notion metal is HUGE down there. Multiple metal bands have released live recordings in Latin America. Megadeth did a double live album That One Night in Buenos Aires. The one you mention above. The Seattle '89 set gets the attention, but Metallica's legendary live box set Live Sh*t Binge and Purge contains a Mexico City '91 set on CD. Amazing as Seattle was, I don't know why the Mexico City set is left out of discussions because they were a force of nature then, man. You can feel the energy just oozing out of every part of the speaker Oh, we agree on that Mexico City concert for sure! Good call on the Megadeth Buenos Aires concert too, I like that one a lot also for the setlist (Blackmail the Universe was a great opener, and then the rarely played Set the World Afire followed!). Speaking of our favorite topic, "all things Megadeth", have you checked out the "Kings of Thrash" project with Ellefson, Jeff Young, and even Poland for some songs? I bought the CD/DVD Life at the Whisky set. Love the focus on the first 3 albums particularly because Killing and SFSWSG don't get much setlist representation in actual Megadeth. The music itself...ok I think. The person they have on vocals is giving it the college try, and Mustaine is hard to copy being so distinct sounding, but I think they are the weak link. Actually, he channels a pretty decent impression, but I hear him straining to hit the higher notes so I think it's more a range issue. I'll buy anything Poland is on though, he's an old favorite of mine (he's done some nice solo stuff and the OHM material is killer if you like a "heavier" flavor of fusion-type music). |
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Post by impulse on Sept 11, 2023 20:34:07 GMT -5
Oh, we agree on that Mexico City concert for sure! Good call on the Megadeth Buenos Aires concert too, I like that one a lot also for the setlist (Blackmail the Universe was a great opener, and then the rarely played Set the World Afire followed!). Speaking of our favorite topic, "all things Megadeth", have you checked out the "Kings of Thrash" project with Ellefson, Jeff Young, and even Poland for some songs? I bought the CD/DVD Life at the Whisky set. Love the focus on the first 3 albums particularly because Killing and SFSWSG don't get much setlist representation in actual Megadeth. The music itself...ok I think. The person they have on vocals is giving it the college try, and Mustaine is hard to copy being so distinct sounding, but I think they are the weak link. Actually, he channels a pretty decent impression, but I hear him straining to hit the higher notes so I think it's more a range issue. I'll buy anything Poland is on though, he's an old favorite of mine (he's done some nice solo stuff and the OHM material is killer if you like a "heavier" flavor of fusion-type music). I'll try to talk about other bands so the mods don't have to rename this the Megadeth and Friends thread.  But yes, that looked pretty cool, and I think it sounds pretty good for what it is. Poland, Young and Ellefson are great players, and for a bunch of 60 year olds trying to impersonate a bunch of 20 year olds, it was pretty good. The vocals were even pretty close. 60 year old Mustaine can't pull off 20 year old Mustaine anymore, either, so fair enough. A little bit of Nile came across my Spotify today. The two thoughts that came into my head were "oh yeah, these guys have a great drummer" and "I should listen to them more." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2023 20:49:39 GMT -5
A little bit of Nile came across my Spotify today. The two thoughts that came into my head were "oh yeah, these guys have a great drummer" and "I should listen to them more." Nile is KILLER, I got into them in the mid-2000's and have all their albums. My favorite is Annihilation of the Wicked from 2005 (though I don't think they've ever made a bad album) and funny you should mention "great drummer", that was the first to feature George Kollias on drums. He's been with them ever since and is considered to be one of the best death metal drummers. |
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Post by berkley on Sept 12, 2023 3:32:52 GMT -5
I was going to put this in the New Movies thread but maybe this is a better spot for it: anyone seen the 2018 Nicholas Cage movie Mandy? I just watched it last week at the local cinema and it has a very strong 1980s/90s metal flavour, not only in terms of the soundtrack but perhaps even more so in terms of the imagery and overall visual style. Well, to be honest, I'm mostly guessing about the era since I don't really know much about metal after the mid-'70s, but the story is set in the 1980s and the movie has that feel as far as I'm able to tell from my position of relative ignorance.
As far as the story goes, it takes a while to get going but eventually becomes a fairly straightforward tale of revenge, with no twists or surprises as far as the basic plot goes - I think deliberately so on the part of the director/writer, Panos Cosmatos, because all the creative originality is in the visual style. The slow start is deliberate too, I think - reflected in the soundtrack, which opens with a King Crimson song (Starless), rather than the more metal stuff that becomes increasingly dominant as the narrative progresses. I'd love to hear what you guys think of it because I thought it was quite interesting, in spite of not being a great fan of this era of metal myself.
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Post by impulse on Sept 12, 2023 8:24:11 GMT -5
An 80s/90s metal-themed revenge movie starring the Cage? Well, you've got my attention.
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Post by impulse on Sept 12, 2023 11:14:50 GMT -5
Going another direction, does anyone have any...gosh, it feels rude to say it this way, but "background" metal go-tos? Something that's not just instrumental, but ambient or atmospheric? A lot of instrumental stuff can be really busy to make up for the lack of vocals, and that is well and good in its place, but I am looking for background music to listen to while I work, and I can't afford to lose concentration.
I tend to hit up my Spotify radio station based on Mick Gordon's Rip and Tear from Doom 2016. That usually does the job, but I'm happy for any others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 15:04:36 GMT -5
Not sure if this is metal enough, but maybe some Porcupine Tree?
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Post by impulse on Sept 12, 2023 16:36:24 GMT -5
They are definitely atmospheric, but not metal enough.  |
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Post by impulse on Sept 13, 2023 8:08:00 GMT -5
Side note, I've quite literally searched for (unsuccessfully) "bands that sound like Porcupine Tree but heavier." If you know any, I'd love to hear them.
Hmm, on the topic, has anyone heard of Oceans of Slumber? They're pretty cool.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 8:34:44 GMT -5
Side note, I've quite literally searched for (unsuccessfully) "bands that sound like Porcupine Tree but heavier." If you know any, I'd love to hear them. Hmm, on the topic, has anyone heard of Oceans of Slumber? They're pretty cool. I had to "phone a friend" (I was actually already on it from your prior post), the bass player from my last band and a brother from another mother. I figured he's be all over this type of music. His suggestions: Swallow the Sun (Finnish death-doom), Enslaved (his description: if Pink Floyd was Black Metal), and older Opeth (which I was kind of thinking as well). I'll have to check out Oceans of Slumber! |
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Post by impulse on Sept 13, 2023 9:16:28 GMT -5
Thanks! I'll check them out. Older Opeth is pretty damn close. That's a good choice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 8:35:05 GMT -5
My favorite Disturbed song and album:
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Post by impulse on Sept 14, 2023 10:45:20 GMT -5
My favorite Disturbed song and album: That's a good one, and probably their last album I thoroughly enjoyed. I usually find my opinion on them outside the consensus, but my favorite of theirs is actually their first one, The Sickness, and by a very wide margin. Mostly, I just like what they were doing the most on that one, but it also has a lot to do with what was happening to mainstream heavy music at the time. So, the first album came out on the tail end of the nu metal wave. While not my favorite movement, it was pretty iconic during my formative music years for me and my peers, so some of it stuck. This album didn't have nearly as many trappings as the major nu metal bands, but it got somewhat lumped into them, but here's what it did have that I liked. First, late 90s production. A lot of rock and heavy records of the time just sounded great. It was before the compression wars got out of control and before producers became terrified of having any treble in the guitars, so it had a nice overall sound. The guitars had bite and not just muffled mids and low end. They actually had some distortion. Drums sounded good. It wasn't compressed to hell. It had just a little nu metal influence, so the drums were hip hoppy and groovy. It had a smidge of weird guitar effects but not too much. A smidge of industrial/nu metal vibe with some synths and a DJ. The guitars sound GREAT and the riffs are slow and thrashy. I like Draiman's stylized vocals. It just had a lot of elements I like. Thrashy guitar riffs, groovy hip hoppy drums, a little but not too much electronic flourishes, great mix, fun performance, boom. LOVE IT. And then the 2000s happened. It's not all Disturbed's fault, but their next one fell right in with everyone else averaging out their sound and chasing the middle. Not particularly fast or slow, but all mid-tempo songs. The same slamming power chords """melodic""" singsongy choruses. Generic flat drums. Flat mix, no shine. And everyone was doing it. I know there were a lot of macro reasons for the sonic style consolidation at the time, but Disturbed went from having a unique, quirky sound and style to just being averaged in with everyone else. That was what, Liberate? It had two songs I really like, but I otherwise couldn't name more than two or three songs off it off the top of my head. 10,000 Fists was similar but I feel was a bit more unique. Some good songs, but they all blend together in my head. I just lost interest after. Still bought the next couple, but eh. I had a similar arc with Godsmack. I really, and I mean REALLY liked their first album even if Sully was doing a Layne Staley impersonation most of the time. Great riffs and songs, and they still had guitar solos which was a big deal in the late 90s. Then Awake was REALLY good. Even heavier, slick sounding, awesome. After that ehhh... they just released different versions of the Godsmack album. It was full of the Godsmack song. Each iteration was more same sounding, more generic. Then they started mellowing out too and eehhh.... But I still like those first few albums, but the 2000s were pretty dire for my tastes overall. There's not much I was listening to at the time that still gets much rotation with me. Thankfully now that I have a tolerance for harsher stuff and my tastes are heavier than at the time, I am able to go back and enjoy the good stuff I wasn't listening to at the time! Like Opeth. MAN they are hitting the spot lately. Sorry for the novel! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 15:02:06 GMT -5
impulse - That was an awesome novel though, having lived that era as well, so much I can relate to. Nu metal gets a bad rap (pun intended!), but at its best it's just another flavor of alternative metal to me. Yeah, you take at the extreme maybe a Crazy Town or something and the formula got silly, but I think it was overall an amazing period of fresh sounds, and 100% agree on the awesome production. Korn, and to an extent RATM before that, had already teed it up, but towards the end of the 90's and very early start of the 2000's there was this short window where a bunch of newer players just seemed to keep dropping great albums. LOVE the first Godsmack, and yes, the first Disturbed is killer. For a long time it was my favorite, something just clicked for me with Ten Thousand Fists at some point. Anyhow, again you really nailed it all from start to finish with your post. I struggled with the 2000's as well initially. The saving grace for me was a lot of stuff coming out of Finland (Children of Bodom, Ensiferum, Wintersun, Kalmah, Norther, etc.), like you I gained that taste for the harsher stuff. Plus cool retro stuff like Municipal Waste!
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