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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 11:18:09 GMT -5
impulse, as a thrash guy, have you listened to Havok, Gama Bomb, Evile, Hatchet, or Warbringer? They are all on the more modern side (relatively speaking). I'll throw out another more modern metal band I love, Striker:
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Post by impulse on Jan 24, 2023 11:29:25 GMT -5
I like a very wide range of metal, both eras and genres. My favorite album of all time is Ratt's Out of the Cellar. My favorite thrash album is Metallica's Ride the Lightning, and I'm in a very tiny minority here but Megadeth's So Far, So Good...So What? is my favorite by them. As a guitar player, my 2 biggest heroes are George Lynch from Dokken (especially Tooth and Nail through Back for the Attack era) and Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom. Alexi is probably my closest "kindred spirit" if you will, I'm still devastated by his passing. Children of Bodom's Hate Crew Deathroll is my favorite, the live Tokyo Warhearts is probably my second. And yeah, I'm a Limp Bizkit fan too. There, I said it. I'm going to listen to all of these today. Well, maybe not the Metallica and Megadeth ones since I am already extremely familiar with them. I've seen SFSGSW get a lot more attention and rehabilitation recently. It's a really good album, and I like it a lot. It's a shame the original mix was so muddy. It was really hard to hear what was going on. It's one of the few I feel benefitted from the early 2000s remasters Dave did. The added clarity opened it up and let me hear and appreciate it more. In the same way a lot of bands have those fan-favorite deep cut songs on albums with more well known hits? This is my album equivalent of that. It's surrounded on either side by major genre anchor albums, but it is really satisfying its way. Liar and Hook in Mouth are a killer ending to that album. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 24, 2023 11:36:46 GMT -5
It was absolutely a gradual, messy, overlapping progression with no "line in the sand" so to speak of. I will take this opportunity to paraphrase two of my favorite quotes about the genres. "While no one can say for sure when the first true 'heavy metal song' came out, it definitely was not after Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath." That's a keeper. Well, Verdi's "Anvil Chorus" was in 1853; doesn't get more "metal" than that! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:07:48 GMT -5
To give the thread some foundational content, and also to get some good recs for anyone here or newcomers who stumble in...and to give everyone a chance to ramble about stuff they like (the real reason we're here, right?).... What is THE BEST metal album OF ALL TIME? ? (Or one of your favorites if it's too hard to pick one)This is totally subjective of course, and no one will ever agree on a single on best of everything, but to you, what do you think is (one of) the just best-of-the-best, leaps and abounds beyond its peers or sub-genres, just one of those amazing, moment in time genre-defining (and even transcending) albums?? For me, the answer is Megadeth's Rust in Peace (original mix of course). I think this is the absolute pinnacle of that first wave of thrash bands. After they exploded onto the scene in a fireball of speed and fury, they started shifting toward more complex songwriting, adding in more progressive elements while maintaining their raw, aggressive credibility. This direction for this first batch of thrash guys peaked on Rust in Peace. It is just instantly more mature in its musical structure, more meticulously crafted and executed, and is just unrelenting in its assault. The guitar chemistry between Mustaine and Friedman is just off the charts. The "classic era" Megadeth lineup is just one of those groups in music history where all the players together far exceed the sum of their individual abilities, and even individually that is a ridiculously talented group of players. Friedman's solos are just otherwordly. His use of melody seems to magical and just outside of reach to be real, and it accentuates Mustaine's riffs. It also forced Mustaine to up his game, as this album features some of this best, most technically complex but still undeniably Dave's playing. It's just to good to be real. Highlights: Holy Wars...The Punishment due. - A basically permanent live set staple for a reason, and considered by many one of the best metal songs created. Tornado of Souls - Oft-cited as having best metal guitar solo of all time. But.... Lucretia - often overlooked by Tornado. In my opinion, the solo is at least as good as Tornado. Dave and Marty is just one of those musical pairings that is irreplaceable, and each elevates the other's already incredible ability.
Nice pick....I like all of Megadeth's albums up to Youthanasia equally, hard to pick one. I'd just say the all-encompassing boxed set Warchest lol
Also Scorpions Live and Iron Maiden's Live After Death from the mid 80s.
So hard to choose....but the 80s-90s would be my favourite era for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:16:12 GMT -5
Does anybody remember hearing about Anvil in the '80s? I'm still not sure if this is an elaborate prank or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:24:47 GMT -5
I'm playing Stryper's 'To Hell With The Devil' while in the kitchen....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:28:01 GMT -5
Well, of all time, I think it has to be Powerslave. Everything just flows so well, not a single track is wasted. “Aces High” and “2 Minutes to Midnight” start it off well, and "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is worthy of the time allocated to it, ending the album on a high. It gives me an excuse to share the cover:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:53:49 GMT -5
Well, of all time, I think it has to be Powerslave. Everything just flows so well, not a single track is wasted. “Aces High” and “2 Minutes to Midnight” start it off well, and "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is worthy of the time allocated to it, ending the album on a high. It gives me an excuse to share the cover: Two horns up from me on this choice. My poor kid with the metal-obsessed dad. Last Saturday we spent half the day painting ceramics. He picked a cat to paint, and asked if cats have green eyes. I can't just say yes, I had to say, "Green is the cat's eye that glows in this temple, enter the risen Osiris, risen agaaaaaaain!" So yes, my little monkey, uncle Bruce confirms that cats have green eyes. (Somehow my turtle ended up looking like a cheeseburger, but that's neither here nor there, nor metal) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:55:02 GMT -5
Something to wash dishes too and the dog likes it too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:57:29 GMT -5
Does anybody remember hearing about Anvil in the '80s? I'm still not sure if this is an elaborate prank or not. They had the briefest brush with some notoriety playing at the Super Rock 84 concert in Japan which also featured Whitesnake, Scorpions, Bon Jovi, and MSG. But overall no, they were not a big band in the 80's at all. I'm playing Stryper's 'To Hell With The Devil' while in the kitchen.... Stryper has some of the best guitar tone of all time. Well, of all time, I think it has to be Powerslave. Everything just flows so well, not a single track is wasted. “Aces High” and “2 Minutes to Midnight” start it off well, and "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" is worthy of the time allocated to it, ending the album on a high. It gives me an excuse to share the cover: Got to agree this is a very strong contender, flawless album from start to finish, I think this was their creative height. Amazing artwork of course as well  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 12:57:58 GMT -5
Also Scorpions Live and Iron Maiden's Live After Death from the mid 80s.
Although I didn't pick it as the best metal album, because, well, Sabbath is Sabbath is Sabbath, I also maintain that Live After Death is the pinnacle of human artistic endeavor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 13:05:09 GMT -5
To address the question of metal's finest moment, I think the band that had all the goods in their prime (they are still around, just not as active) was Symphony X. Progressive metal on the surface, but the guitar player Michael Romeo is a heavy riffer, it's much more outright metal than a lot of prog. Russell Allen has an amazing voice as well. I think their 2000 V: The New Mythology Suite was their high point, but they had many great albums. Skip to 1:08 in if you want to just get to the heavy part.
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2023 13:16:02 GMT -5
I can pin down my favourite Black Sabbath album: Vol. IV. I like them all up to and including Sabotage but for some reason that one has always stood out to me.
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2023 13:18:06 GMT -5
I don't think I could narrow it down to even one album per band. Then how about Ten of your Top albums and why? I'll take more music suggestions to try any time. Sorry, missed this before posting the above. I'll try to add more to my reasoning but it largely comes down to subjective feeling and probably in many cases early exposure to the particular record. |
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Post by impulse on Jan 24, 2023 14:17:13 GMT -5
I like a very wide range of metal, both eras and genres. My favorite album of all time is Ratt's Out of the Cellar. As a guitar player, my 2 biggest heroes are George Lynch from Dokken (especially Tooth and Nail through Back for the Attack era) and Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom. Alexi is probably my closest "kindred spirit" if you will, I'm still devastated by his passing. Children of Bodom's Hate Crew Deathroll is my favorite, the live Tokyo Warhearts is probably my second. And yeah, I'm a Limp Bizkit fan too. There, I said it. Since there is so much activity (yay!) and I am taking people's suggestions/likes seriously, my replies will probably be piecemeal and delayed. I've made it through Ratt and most of the first Dokken album so far. It's really interesting. I haven't really dug too keep into this particular era and style of metal. My music progression kind of leapt over this from 70s classic rock right into 90s hard rock/metal. I backed into the thrash guys back catalogs, so I have that bit of the 80s covered very well, but the early 80s traditional heavy metal and hair metal I never really spent much time with. It's interesting how much of the late 70s rock ingredients I hear in it, but it's definitely noticeably different. It has many of the signature metal attributes, e.g. faster palm-muted tremolo picking, more aggressive riffs, tones and song structures, etc. It has a lot of that 80s sonic aesthetic, too. Admittedly not my favorite sound or period of metal, but I'm enjoying the exploration. Honestly, it makes me think of the original animated Transformers movie which was dead-on in the midst of this and sounds the part. The theme song rips way harder on here than it needed to. It's a great soundtrack, honestly, and it sounds like you'd like it a lot if you don't already know it. |
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