I'm not sure if it's true for every version, but I always thought both Kamandi and Legion could easily be in the same timeline... if you're talking about the right era of the Legion.

The Threeboot, for instance (which is MY Legion), talked about how they didn't know much about the 20th century.. why?  The Great Disaster, that's why .


Kamandi made a 2nd appearance in Brave and the Bold too, #157 I think?  Kamandi ends up in Gotham somehow.  (#120 is far better).

So what I take away from this thread so far...it's all Jack Kirby's fault. This little nuisance that Kamandi creates for the timestream...Kirby. A breed of Darkseid like villains...Kirby.

And Byrne...because he destroyed the Superman Family. 

Because we have to nerd out on it man! It can't be that simple...there must be clues, references, seeming contradictions.

Sure it's a possible future...but which one? Should it be given a numeric suffix of it's own? Where does it go on the BIG flippin' universe chart??!!!

This is important stuff Slam.

Wouldn't you have to crack them out of their slabs to do that? Is that even allowed?

Neither have I!

In all seriousness, it's a good callout that no matter how much we debate the pre-Crisis Kamandi/Legion thing, they were explicitly represented at some point (again, this is specific to Pre-Crisis era) as being alternate futures, both with some canon interactions with 20th century mainstream characters. My only point in calling out the Legion future as the "mainstream" one was based on the tremendous volume of stories and how woven Legion lore is into the overall DC mythos, so much falls apart retroactively if that future did not come to be, but again I'm not trying to make some "technical" conclusive argument. Sorry for the rabbit hole!

Anybody want to talk about Zero Hour?

POST SECRET WARS (2015)
Small premise: Before SW, Marvel had never had a mega-event where the universe was rebooted like DC's various Crises. The reasons were various. The Marvel universe was relatively young and therefore didn't have the same baggage as the Distinct Competition. Alternate Earths also existed in Marvel but until recently had never been as important as they were in pre-COIE DC. It was preferred to resolve any contradictions in continuity with ad hoc stories (or by ignoring them completely). So there was never (from their point of view) a need to create something like COIE.

This changed with Secret Wars. Before that, during so-called "incursions", various universes had been destroyed (included the main Marvel Universe and the Ultimate Universe). Following numerous incursions across the multiverse, the remains of various realities have been fused together to create a new Battleworld. Each domain is the incursion point from that reality's destruction, as this is all that remains from each one.

After the saga, the Marvel Universe is rebooted, with some important differences:

• Some characters who had died before and during Secret Wars have returned to life
• Some characters (like Miles Morales) have become an integral part of the 616 universe
• Some characters originating from other universes (such as Old Man Logan) found themselves living in the 616 universe
• The Ultimate universe was destroyed, but the Maker (that universe's Reed Richard) survived with his memories intact.
• The multiverse was rebuilt without the incursions having occurred
• Not all universes have been rebuilt .

But the most important thing, from a cosmological point of view, is that current Multiverse is specifically an Eight Cosmos and the Seventh died with Incursions.

This means that the entire order between the various abstract entities of the Multiverse (Living Tribunal, Chaos and Order etc etc) has been completely overturned. This has been the focus of some post Secret Wars series.