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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 29, 2015 7:15:35 GMT -5
On the subject of Multiversity, I wish DC would let Grant Morrison to a Captain Marvel/Shazam series similar to All Star Superman. Morrison seems to really get what makes Marvel work (he's more of a fantasy/fairy tale character than a mythological adventure character) and I think the series would finally do the character some justice after years of misuse. How was Morrison's Multiversity issue that featured the Marvels? It was an issue I liked alot and I also think Morrison would do a great job. The best Captain Marvel in recent years was the Jeff Smith "Monster Society of Evil" mini series....  ....and Mike Kunkel's "Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam!" series  I loved both of those books! They were seriously some of the best super hero comics put out in the last 20 years. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 29, 2015 8:23:24 GMT -5
AS COH says, people get bonkers on the whole getting superpowers thing. I think this diminishes secondary characters, but that's just me. In general, fans vote for Gwen to get powers, MJ, Uncle Ben… anyone really. The inheritance of nearly a century of superheroes, is really weighing down the medium (at least in the USA). The basic concept sucks, and the implantation from these guys is even worse. I haven't even bothered with this series, but I read EoSV #2, by the same "creative team", and this is all I could muster about it: I agree the whole event was pretty meh, incidently, and I HATE Spider-Gwen. So, I read the whole of Spider-Verse event a couple of days ago (just the main series in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man, mind) and, actually, I thought it was pretty enjoyable and quite nicely written. Dan Slott's basic story was gripping enough to hold me throughout the six parts, and the epilogue issue, and there were plenty of thrills and spills to keep me reading. There were also lots of cute moments with the various spider-men, especially Spider-Ham and the 1960's cartoon Spider-Man. I liked that kind of stuff a lot and, to me, was the whole event's strongest point. I thought Olivier Coipel's art was serviceable enough...no better or worse than other semi-recent things of his that I've read, such as Seige. However, it was a bit annoying, and took me out of the story a bit, that he had a tendency to make Peter Parer look like Andrew Garfield, but other than that, I think he did a pretty good job on the story. I must admit, I do kinda like the fact that Morlun and now his family have grown into such a threat in the Spider-Man comics. There is, of course, the possibility here for Venom or Carnage levels of exploitation and over-exposure, but so far that's been resisted. I remember reading Morlun's first appearances during J. Micheal Strazyinski's run and I really liked him as a villain, so it's good to see other writers use him and the whole Ezekial/Spider-Totem thing. Personally, I always liked the Spider-Totem element being introduced into continuity. I thought then, as I do now, that the whole concept was a breath of fresh air compared to the same old stale re-treads and variations on Silver Age and Bronze Age story setups. As for Spider-Gwen, yeah, not mad crazy about the character, but...at least she's from an alternate universe. As of the end of Spider-Verse, she's not in the 616 and the 616 is all I really care about. Spider-Gwen doesn't bother me any more than Spider-Girl or Ultimate Spider-Man because I don't follow those characters and don't consider them to be the real deal. So yeah, I don't get what all the fuss is with Spider-Gwen, but as long as she's not gonna be a permanent resident of the 616, I'm not too bothered about what Marvel do with her or how popular she becomes. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Mar 29, 2015 9:26:33 GMT -5
Dan Slott's basic story was gripping enough to hold me throughout the six parts, and the epilogue issue, and there were plenty of thrills and spills to keep me reading. I must admit, I do kinda like the fact that Morlun and now his family have grown into such a threat in the Spider-Man comics. There is, of course, the possibility here for Venom or Carnage levels of exploitation and over-exposure, but so far that's been resisted. For a detailed opinion on the event (issue by issue) you can check stillanerd's reviews at crawlspace, they basically agree with my POV. For the nuances, you can confer my posts in the Amazing Spider-Man thread I opened, for the specific purpose of commenting on his reviews. In a nutshell, we're very far away from you, on this one. Anything, after Morlun's initial appearance, has felt like exploitation. JMS started it with The Other, Marvel just keeps making the situation worse, every time they come back to the character. I would prefer for the Spider-Totem concept, to be open for interpretation, but that ship sailed long ago. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 29, 2015 9:54:27 GMT -5
Dan Slott's basic story was gripping enough to hold me throughout the six parts, and the epilogue issue, and there were plenty of thrills and spills to keep me reading. I must admit, I do kinda like the fact that Morlun and now his family have grown into such a threat in the Spider-Man comics. There is, of course, the possibility here for Venom or Carnage levels of exploitation and over-exposure, but so far that's been resisted. For a detailed opinion on the event (issue by issue) you can check stillanerd's reviews at crawlspace, they basically agree with my POV. For the nuances, you can confer my posts in the Amazing Spider-Man thread I opened, for the specific purpose of commenting on his reviews. In a nutshell, we're very far away from you, on this one. Anything, after Morlun's initial appearance, has felt like exploitation. JMS started it with The Other, Marvel just keeps making the situation worse, every time they come back to the character. I would prefer for the Spider-Totem concept, to be open for interpretation, but that ship sailed long ago. Well, with all due respect to stillanerd, who I'm sure is a great guy, I won't be checking out his reviews because I didn't tend to agree with him about much back on the old CBR Spidey board. An awful lot of his predictions about then-forthcoming events were way off base too. Of course, he's perfectly entitled to his opinion and he certainly knows his stuff, Spidey-wise, but his conclusions and/or criticisms didn't align with mine very often and it sounds like they still don't. As for Morlun and the totem, I sort of agree that it being left open to speculation might've been more interesting, but there it is. I don't dislike the concept, so I'm not adverse to seeing it explored as fact, as opposed to it only being a possibility. As for Morlun, I don't think he's really been subject to exploitation or over-exposure...at least, not compared to the likes of Venom. Spider-Verse was only his third appearance in 13 years, wasn't it (I'm not counting video games and the like)? That seems quite restrained on Marvel's part considering that he's a pretty darn good villain and a high-level threat to Spidey. |
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Post by Ozymandias on Mar 29, 2015 11:30:36 GMT -5
An awful lot of his predictions about then-forthcoming events were way off base too. Of course, he's perfectly entitled to his opinion and he certainly knows his stuff, Spidey-wise, but his conclusions and/or criticisms didn't align with mine very often and it sounds like they still don't. Spider-Verse was only his third appearance in 13 years, wasn't it (I'm not counting video games and the like)? That seems quite restrained on Marvel's part considering that he's a pretty darn good villain and a high-level threat to Spidey. I value his opinions. I don't care much for predictions, as they either contain inside reliable information (potential spoiler material), or are based on speculation (made for fun). Opinions I rate higher, because the only way of discriminating, potentially interesting new comics, is having access to like-minded people, who can tip you towards it. Checking the actual comic in the stands isn't an option were I live, and previews are often too limited. Three appearances may not be much, in the scope of all things Marvel, but the fact is that Morlun was originally intended as a one-stand character, and he only worked in that context. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Mar 29, 2015 12:02:44 GMT -5
Comics for April 1st:
DARK HORSE COMICS
Empowered Unchained Volume 1 TP (depending on what it actually is)
DC COMICS
Wonder Woman Volume 5 Flesh TP
MARVEL COMICS
Rocket Raccoon #10
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 29, 2015 12:27:47 GMT -5
BATMAN/SUPERMAN ANNUAL #2
BATWOMAN ANNUAL #2
CONVERGENCE #0
EARTH 2 WORLDS END #26
FLASH SEASON ZERO #7
FUTURES END #48
SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN #17
TEEN TITANS ANNUAL #1
WONDER WOMAN #40
GALAXY QUEST JOURNEY CONTINUES #3
MILLENNIUM #3
X-FILES SEASON 10 #22
AVENGERS #43
DOCTOR WHO 9TH #1
trade waiting
HELLBOY/BPRD, ELFQUEST, EMPOWERED, GOON, LONE WOLF & CUB, BATMAN ETERNAL, HINTERKIND, STAR TREK GOLD KEY ARCHIVES, BITCH PLANET, BLACK SCIENCE, GOD HATES ASTRONAUTS, SOUTHERN BASTARDS, MARVELS STAR WARS, LUMBERJANES
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 29, 2015 12:33:43 GMT -5
Has anyone been reading Hulk? Is it any good? I stopped reading at the end of Indestructible Hulk.
Hard to believe that 4 or 5 years ago, Hulk had its own franchise, with Red Hulk, green Hulk, Son of Hulk, Red She-Hulk carrying books, plus various mini series ("Warbound") and specials. Now it's just one book, not even She-Hulk around.
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Post by cromagnonman on Mar 29, 2015 13:39:13 GMT -5
Hard to believe that 4 or 5 years ago, Hulk had its own franchise, with Red Hulk, green Hulk, Son of Hulk, Red She-Hulk.
There is a crazy Saturday morning kids cartoon featuring all those characters. I think, only from memory, with the exception of Red She Hulk? Anyway, I LOL'd. The kids must be really confused watching it with all those Hulks.
I am quite fond of that era of Hulk, I have all the issues through Red Hulk and Red She Hulk. The idea sounds ridiculous, but I enjoyed those comics. Good writer/artist combos.
Indestructible Hulk lost me though. In fact I only read Amazing Spider man and Silver Surfer now. 4 or 5 years ago (was it really that long?) I was getting at least 10 titles.
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 29, 2015 13:49:16 GMT -5
Hard to believe that 4 or 5 years ago, Hulk had its own franchise, with Red Hulk, green Hulk, Son of Hulk, Red She-Hulk.
There is a crazy Saturday morning kids cartoon featuring all those characters. I think, only from memory, with the exception of Red She Hulk? Anyway, I LOL'd. The kids must be really confused watching it with all those Hulks.
I am quite fond of that era of Hulk, I have all the issues through Red Hulk and Red She Hulk. The idea sounds ridiculous, but I enjoyed those comics. Good writer/artist combos.
Indestructible Hulk lost me though. In fact I only read Amazing Spider man and Silver Surfer now. 4 or 5 years ago (was it really that long?) I was getting at least 10 titles.
Red Hulk and Red She-Hulk had the advantage of having Jeff Parker as writer, and some neat artists. The only problem is that the much inferior Loeb issues sold like 5 times as many copies. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 29, 2015 13:51:58 GMT -5
I usually bail whenever a series franchises out to multiple titles as a money grab. I pretty much stopped buying Avengers books this year.
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Post by wickedmountain on Mar 29, 2015 14:05:16 GMT -5
Except according to Brian Hibbs, no one is preordering these things and retailers are ordering low because it has a built in "skipability" fro his pull customers. And he is not the only retailer saying they haven't gotten a lot of requests for these. Since shops generally gauge what to order at pulls + x for most books, with x being how many they sell on an average month to walk in customers who don't have pulls and none of these books have a track record to establish x and the pulls are low to non-existent, I can't see retailers going all in to order well on these. Secret Wars tie ins are facing a similar market resistance according to Hibbs, and the two events are presenting a 2-3 month span where shops have no dependable series sales from the big 2 so money will be tight and they have to be very conservative when making orders and avoid risk taking so they don't get caught short on cash flow the months after the events. I think orders are already in for the first month so unless there was already a big push I don't see them being big sellers because the people who have to make that happen (the retailers not the consumers) have already made their decisions and base don that print runs have been set by the publishers. They are also books retailer will be hesitant to go back and reorder because they won't have much of a shelf life after the event itself, so even if there is greater demand than retailers anticipate, there likely won't be significant reorder activity on it that could lead to further printings. So it would be nice, but a) Didio has already said they won't be publishing multiple universes and b) I wouldn't hold my breath on sales being good for these because of the way retailers have to make decisions on how much to order before the end customer even has much info to have much of a clue whether they might want these or not and retailers cannot risk the capital to order big without the guarantee of pull sales/pre-orders. -M Dang sigh  |
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Post by wickedmountain on Mar 29, 2015 14:11:41 GMT -5
for Wednesday, April 1 DC COMICS Batman and Robin Annual #3 Batman/ Superman Annual #2 Convergence #0 Earth 2: World's End #26 Flash: Season Zero #7 Sinestro Annual #1 Superman/ Wonder Woman #17 Teen Titans Annual #1 Wonder Woman #40 MARVEL COMICS: Kanan: The Last Padawan #1 Nice ones man:) are you getting any of the convergence minis ? |
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Post by wickedmountain on Mar 29, 2015 14:13:36 GMT -5
Came home to my March comics! Very surprised, but happy  some early comments: Princess Leia 1-2: Very impressed but this one.. they've set up a story that fits in continuity, 'feels' right, and doesn't have a pre-determined outcome. I love Leia's new sidekick.. great new character... A+. Elfquest: Final Quest 8: Beautiful art as usual.. story continues to meander a bit, but the progress is coming slowly but surely. Astro City 21: Great conclusion to a great story... best one in a long time. I do wonder about the timeline, though.. it doesn't feel right to me, but I'm ignoring it because Astro City is so awesome, and I expect Mr. Busiek gets it exactly, even if I don't. Multiversity: Ultra Comics: Well, that was interesting for sure. I'm not sure i'd call it good, but interesting for sure. That's exactly how I felt about Ultra Comics as well, it was an interesting concept and I liked the easter eggs but I think I liked the story better when it starred Grover :  Lol I loved that book as a kid  |
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Post by berkley on Mar 29, 2015 18:57:43 GMT -5
Nightworld: Midnight Sonata - thoroughly enjoyed this. I think there was enough material here to make this a 6 or even 8-issue series. Loved the Kirbyesque artwork and the writing was full of nice ideas well implemented. Looking forward to more work from McGovern and Leandri. I just ordered this today and it should arrive sometime this week. I very much look forward to reading this. -M I meant to say earlier, thanks to the posters who recommended here in this thread. I never would have heard of it otherwise. |
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