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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 10, 2020 4:08:02 GMT -5
Finally watching this. It's pretty dang good. I'm on episode 5. It's like 80% crime drama and 20% action movie, which is an interesting approach from an obstensible superhero show.
But flat out. I don't like this slow burn deliberate to the point of somnambulance (possibly not a word) pacing does. not. work. for superhero shows. In the future can we please, please, please just have shorter seasons and less space to fill!
But I think all the actors in Daredevil are just fun to watch, which makes it more palatable.
But it's a little weird that Matt/Daredevil never/rarely interacts with Kingpin or Foggy or Karen or Kingpin Jr. or anyone but Night Nurse. Hopefully that changes.
So I've done the first season of Luke Cage, Daredevil and Alias so far and .. it's like I'd grade them all pretty well but Daredevil is the one I might actually rewatch.
(Agent Carter is still my favorite. Frickin' loved Agent Carter.)
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 15, 2020 4:50:36 GMT -5
On Episode 6:
Why. does. every. scene. have. exactly. two. characters. talking. at. any. given. time.
Is this an active choice? Is this a type of film noir?
It's driving me a little bit insane.
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Post by Duragizer on Jan 17, 2020 16:45:13 GMT -5
Finally watching this. It's pretty dang good. I'm on episode 5. It's like 80% crime drama and 20% action movie, which is an interesting approach from an obstensible superhero show. But flat out. I don't like this slow burn deliberate to the point of somnambulance (possibly not a word) pacing does. not. work. for superhero shows. In the future can we please, please, please just have shorter seasons and less space to fill! I think Daredevil certainly would've benefitted from a few standalone episodes. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 20, 2020 10:00:56 GMT -5
Finally watching this. It's pretty dang good. I'm on episode 5. It's like 80% crime drama and 20% action movie, which is an interesting approach from an obstensible superhero show. But flat out. I don't like this slow burn deliberate to the point of somnambulance (possibly not a word) pacing does. not. work. for superhero shows. In the future can we please, please, please just have shorter seasons and less space to fill! I think Daredevil certainly would've benefitted from a few standalone episodes. That's exactly right! Good call! Honestly, I've never watched a series that balanced one-offs with longer arcs as well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That should be the model for everyone working in tv. Also Daredevil is having more scenes with three characters now, so they're fixing the one thing that really bothered me. Horray! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 13:30:44 GMT -5
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a good example!
The second season of Jessica Jones was slow. These season-long arcs with only one villain can make things a chore to watch. I can binge-watch almost anything, but not that. They could benefit from standalone tales.
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Post by rberman on Jan 20, 2020 16:53:03 GMT -5
The second season of Jessica Jones was slow. These season-long arcs with only one villain can make things a chore to watch. I can binge-watch almost anything, but not that. They could benefit from standalone tales. I thought the second season was slow too. Daredevil and Jessica Jones both did much better in seasons 1 and 3 than 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 16:59:21 GMT -5
As slow as Iron Fist (Season 1) and Luke Cage (season 1) were, I wasn't looking at my watch. And I did binge-watch them at times when I had the time.
With season 2 of Jessica Jones, I did look at my watch some of the time. And when I got to the end of an episode, I thought, 'Well, I'll watch the next one in a few days' time.' That's not good.
Everyone's mileage varies, of course. I don't think the nihilism and bleakness of Jones' personality lends itself to a binge watch.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 21, 2020 10:12:59 GMT -5
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a good example! The second season of Jessica Jones was slow. These season-long arcs with only one villain can make things a chore to watch. I can binge-watch almost anything, but not that. They could benefit from standalone tales. Buffy was good at it, and Supernatural has done well also. One thing both of them benefit from is a longer season; it's far easier to have some standalones or short arcs in a 22-episode season than it is in a 10-12 episode season. I do disagree with your assessment about the "one villain" arcs being a chore, from the standpoint that a compelling villain makes it easier to do. David Tennant as Killgrave was fascinating to watch in ways that Jessica's mother (in Season 2) and Salinger and even Trish (in Season 3) were not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 10:15:36 GMT -5
The "one villain" arcs aren't always a chore. I mean, Kilgrave's presence was top-notch. And same with Wilson Fisk in Daredevil. But I can't say the same about Jessica's mother.
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Post by rberman on Jan 21, 2020 10:18:02 GMT -5
The "one villain" arcs aren't always a chore. I mean, Kilgrave's presence was top-notch. And same with Wilson Fisk in Daredevil. But I can't say the same about Jessica's mother. In a sense, Jessica Jones had the same basic plot arc in all three seasons. She's a royally screwed up person herself, but she needs to believe that people can change, because then maybe she can change too. So each season showed her trying unsuccessfully to save another person from their own inner darkness. There's a lot of fascinating things to say about the depictions of codependency in that show. |
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Post by Duragizer on Jan 22, 2020 23:47:12 GMT -5
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a good example! The second season of Jessica Jones was slow. These season-long arcs with only one villain can make things a chore to watch. I can binge-watch almost anything, but not that. They could benefit from standalone tales. Buffy was good at it, and Supernatural has done well also. One thing both of them benefit from is a longer season; it's far easier to have some standalones or short arcs in a 22-episode season than it is in a 10-12 episode season. On the other hand, longer seasons tend to fall prey to filler episodes which serve no purpose other than to pad out the season to meet that 20+ episode quota (one of the reasons why I gave up watching network television, incidentally). |
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Post by berkley on Jan 23, 2020 2:55:06 GMT -5
I also used to hate that "hiatus" the old 20+ episode shows used to take: when you were watching something one episode per week, that was a areal momentum-killer.
On the whole, I much prefer the shorter seasons now, 12 episodes or less, and also a limited number of seasons, usually 5 to 7. I think it makes for tighter, more well-constructed story-telling. Yes, a show like Buffy was able to turn the longer season into an advantage and use it to play around a bit, experiment with stand-alone episodes, etc, but that was really the exception. Most of the old shows had a lot of filler and the commercially successful ones also usually went on for several years too long, even some of the very best of them.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 5, 2020 14:27:05 GMT -5
Finished season 1. Still good. The series as a whole did a great job of defining the characters and their relationship to each other, especially the villains. This grounded and made the whole series work. Although I'm still not sure why Vanessa is with the Kingpin? In a series where everyone else's motivation was explicitly spelled out at length she ended up being fairly cyphrical which yanked me out of the story.
It's so weird that their were 5-6 villains and only 2 were presented as major physical threats to DD. That's something I'd not seen in superhero fiction before.
And I'll always be "The original version is usually the best and even if it's not the best it is important!" guy in regards to superheroes, so I'm bummed to see a Daredevil show where Leap Frog and Stilt-Man and the Matador wouldn't fit.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 18, 2020 21:37:43 GMT -5
Elektra is so good. Sad to see she'll never get her own show. This season better end up with Elektra vs. the Punisher!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 7:55:38 GMT -5
Took me an age to get back into these series - I found s3e01 to be a bit slow, but it really picked up with the 2nd episode and I'm in and hooked again.
I'm really enjoying this series, but I'm also recognising that the biggest weakness with it is the Matt Murdoch character - he's the least interesting thing in this series so far, and arguably in s2 as well. I think that's a criticism that certainly applies to the Iron Fist series as well, and to some extent to Luke Cage.
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