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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 19:54:22 GMT -5
Jim Lee is a guy I've never understood the love for. He's OK, but very pedestrian... he makes me about as excited as guys like Ron Frenz and Al Milgrom (who I like alot more than Scott and a few others)... they don't make me buy a book, but I feel confident I won't DISLIKE it. I liked his UXM era covers but didn't really care when he came or left as an interior artist, and did not like his new X-Men series. The stuff I see since then has for the most part left me less impressed than when I was a kid. There's a rooftop group shot of DC characters, where Batman and Robin have their capes flapping different directions. I remember looking through DMZ and seeing a Jim Lee pinup and it was the ugliest thing in the book. Having said that, he does a good Wolverine. Also, some of his less house style stuff looks pretty good to me. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 21, 2015 21:28:30 GMT -5
I have to say that I like it a lot and it often puzzles me how vocal some folks online are in their disapproval of the storyline. Mind you, the negativity around the "Sins Past" storyline in Amazing Spider-Man also mystifies me as well, so what do I know? I thought that was an excellent story too. As a concept, it was pretty good. My biggest problem with it was the characterization... Tony Stark was terrible, and many others weren't much better. Plus, they destroyed the New Warriors (though they got redeemed a bit during Avengers: The Initiative, which is secretly a New Warriors book). The cool stuff (like the Initiative) didn't last, but the crappy stuff (Tony Stark as essentially Evil, the constant hero vs. hero thing, etc) seems to continue to stick around. I enjoyed Civil war but, by it's nature, it was an ugly book. People acting aggressive and ugly. I hated Ms. Marvel, Tigra, and even Captain America was acting ugly. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 21, 2015 22:16:03 GMT -5
Just to loop back to Gail Simone... I was reading some Legenderry, and Dynamite had a house ad for calendars of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris.. not surprising, since Dynamite kinda embraces cheesecake  The sad/upseting part... the Red Sonja one is listed at 'Gail Simone's Red Sonja'.. it's right on the cover. I'm pretty sure she neither drew the art there or wrote a story for a character.. rather, Dynamite seems to feel adding her name will sell more pin up calendars. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 22:19:33 GMT -5
Just to loop back to Gail Simone... I was reading some Legenderry, and Dynamite had a house ad for calendars of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris.. not surprising, since Dynamite kinda embraces cheesecake The sad/upseting part... the Red Sonja one is listed at 'Gail Simone's Red Sonja'.. it's right on the cover. I'm pretty sure she neither drew the art there or wrote a story for a character.. rather, Dynamite seems to feel adding her name will sell more pin up calendars. The only thing I might say to that is the current Red Sonja series that Gail is writing is a reboot of the character, and Gail was the architect of that reboot and it is sometimes referred to as Gail Simone's Red Sonja to distinguish it form previous incarantions of the character (much in the way the '86-'87 reboot of Superman is referred to as Byrne's Superman). -M |
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Post by SJNeal on Jul 22, 2015 21:30:51 GMT -5
Pretty much anything from Avatar; Crossed in particular.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 23:11:30 GMT -5
Pretty much anything from Avatar; Crossed in particular. As with Dynamite, I've only read horror from Avatar. First I find the art on all Avatar comics atrocious, but can't say I enjoyed a single one of their horror comics either. I never read Crossed though, just their miniseries stuff. I think I owned a few issues of Crossed that I never even opened. I also owned a few fantasy type comics from them I also never got around to reading. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 23, 2015 2:09:58 GMT -5
Just to loop back to Gail Simone... I was reading some Legenderry, and Dynamite had a house ad for calendars of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris.. not surprising, since Dynamite kinda embraces cheesecake The sad/upseting part... the Red Sonja one is listed at 'Gail Simone's Red Sonja'.. it's right on the cover. I'm pretty sure she neither drew the art there or wrote a story for a character.. rather, Dynamite seems to feel adding her name will sell more pin up calendars. The sad/upsetting part to me is that I like cheesecake fine but I just can't stand the artwork in those Dynamite comics. If they had someone like José Gonzalez drawing Vampirella, Wally Wood Red Sonja, and Al Williamson or Frazetta Dejah Thoris, I'd be buying those books. Obviously they aren't around now and it's unfair to set the bar that high - in fairness I can't think of any contemporary artists who could conceivably replace them, apart from perhaps Mark Schulz, who doesn't want to be an artist anymore anyway, it seems. But the artwork on those Dynamite series is even below the already low standard of today's comics, to my taste. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 23, 2015 9:26:58 GMT -5
Just to loop back to Gail Simone... I was reading some Legenderry, and Dynamite had a house ad for calendars of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris.. not surprising, since Dynamite kinda embraces cheesecake The sad/upseting part... the Red Sonja one is listed at 'Gail Simone's Red Sonja'.. it's right on the cover. I'm pretty sure she neither drew the art there or wrote a story for a character.. rather, Dynamite seems to feel adding her name will sell more pin up calendars. The sad/upsetting part to me is that I like cheesecake fine but I just can't stand the artwork in those Dynamite comics. If they had someone like José Gonzalez drawing Vampirella, Wally Wood Red Sonja, and Al Williamson or Frazetta Dejah Thoris, I'd be buying those books. Obviously they aren't around now and it's unfair to set the bar that high - in fairness I can't think of any contemporary artists who could conceivably replace them, apart from perhaps Mark Schulz, who doesn't want to be an artist anymore anyway, it seems. But the artwork on those Dynamite series is even below the already low standard of today's comics, to my taste. Dynamite has a problem with artists in general. Generally, the only good art you're going to see in a Dynamite book is on something written by Matt Wagner, and he acts as art director on his books. Granted, he's helped along artists who had some talent to begin with, like Francavilla and Aaron Campbell. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 23, 2015 9:30:00 GMT -5
Pretty much anything from Avatar; Crossed in particular. As with Dynamite, I've only read horror from Avatar. First I find the art on all Avatar comics atrocious, but can't say I enjoyed a single one of their horror comics either. I never read Crossed though, just their miniseries stuff. I think I owned a few issues of Crossed that I never even opened. I also owned a few fantasy type comics from them I also never got around to reading. Moore's current Providence is pretty good, but I can't help but wonder if it would have been great if he had approached Eddie Campbell to provide the art. There's nothing wrong with the current artist, per se, but his work has absolutely no atmosphere, which is a necessity in a horror book. |
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Post by SJNeal on Jul 23, 2015 10:40:32 GMT -5
Pretty much anything from Avatar; Crossed in particular. As with Dynamite, I've only read horror from Avatar. First I find the art on all Avatar comics atrocious, but can't say I enjoyed a single one of their horror comics either. I never read Crossed though, just their miniseries stuff. I think I owned a few issues of Crossed that I never even opened. I also owned a few fantasy type comics from them I also never got around to reading. I didn't realize Avatar did anything but horror. If you can call it that. I'm definitely not a prude, but for me "horror" has to consist of more than gratuitous blood/severed body parts/nudity/rape to qualify as such...  |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 23, 2015 11:06:52 GMT -5
As with Dynamite, I've only read horror from Avatar. First I find the art on all Avatar comics atrocious, but can't say I enjoyed a single one of their horror comics either. I never read Crossed though, just their miniseries stuff. I think I owned a few issues of Crossed that I never even opened. I also owned a few fantasy type comics from them I also never got around to reading. I didn't realize Avatar did anything but horror. If you can call it that. I'm definitely not a prude, but for me "horror" has to consist of more than gratuitous blood/severed body parts/nudity/rape to qualify as such... They have other types of books. Warren Ellis had his take on Mr X in Doktor Sleepless, Conan with Wolfskin, and a bunch of other odds and ends that would probably fall under the "sci-fi adventure" label. Kieran Gillen has his WWII superhero book Uber. Ennis has a few war books and a Western or two.
Alan Moore's Providence seems a different kind of horror book for them. It's built more around mysteries and sexual repression. There hasn't been any violence in it at all so far. Like I said, though, the book is definitely lacking in the atmosphere department. Jacen Burrows is a solid artist and has done some great work in the past, but this book needed something different.
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Post by Honeystinger on Jul 23, 2015 12:26:35 GMT -5
Just wait until a shocking reveal tells us that Princess Leia had Darth Vader's child in between Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back! As heinous as that would be, there's a part of me that's thinking that would be one hell of an origin for an extremely messed up villain. He could even scar himself and take up the mantle of the new Darth Vader. I better keep quite. It's obvious that Disney would love to have Vader back for the new films... How do you think Disney would deal with New Darth's incestuous origin? Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader's son; Leia is Luke's twin sister; that makes Leia Darth's daughter. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 23, 2015 12:46:27 GMT -5
As heinous as that would be, there's a part of me that's thinking that would be one hell of an origin for an extremely messed up villain. He could even scar himself and take up the mantle of the new Darth Vader. I better keep quite. It's obvious that Disney would love to have Vader back for the new films... How do you think Disney would deal with New Darth's incestuous origin? Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader's son; Leia is Luke's twin sister; that makes Leia Darth's daughter. "The Force is strong in my family, and it STAYS in my family". |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 23, 2015 13:08:03 GMT -5
How do you think Disney would deal with New Darth's incestuous origin? Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader's son; Leia is Luke's twin sister; that makes Leia Darth's daughter. "The Force is strong in my family, and it STAYS in my family". I read that with James Earl Jones' voice in my head...and it both disturbed me and made me chuckle. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 23, 2015 22:01:03 GMT -5
Here's one thing I've never understood ever since first hearing about it on the internet a while back: what's the point of Cyborg Superman? He's already Superman, adding machine parts isn't going to make him any more powerful or scary or whatever he's supposed to be compared to the original. That's never made any sense to me.
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