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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 24, 2015 17:01:59 GMT -5
I was looking at the Worst issue thread and I thought of this:
We all have collections of runs that have had a down period. I think that for every series, there have been the dark Times. My favorite series of all time is the Avengers V.1. But after issue #300, I don't think there was anything worth reading. Which run of issues have marred an otherwise great series for you ? Maybe the term" jumped the shark" applies.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2015 17:24:20 GMT -5
I am glad I only read up to issue 300.
And let's go with the blindingly obvious answer: Cerebus. Hell, on some level I even liked READS (at least the first half) but Dave's Bible Fan-Fiction towards the end was just a slog. This is the only part of a GREAT comic I couldn't make it through.
And I gotta say that Jaime's T-Girl stuff at the beginning of the current series of Love and Rockets didn't do much for me either, especially because it came so soon after Ghosts of Hoppers and right before Browntown, which were some of the greatest comics ever.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 24, 2015 19:24:11 GMT -5
Avenger's is a good one. The bomber jacket era was hard to live through. When Busiek and Perez brought them back to glory in 1998 I was thrilled.
I'd have to say that the run that soured me on comics for awhile was the horrendously pretentious and boring Incredible Hulk run by Bruce Jones. I only sampled a few issues, but reading those, and detailed reviews of the issues, irked me beyond belief. The Hulk as mysterious monster that you rarely see had to be the most idiotic conceit of the Quesada era. Here we have one of the most recognized superhero icons of all-time, a character that we've seen plastered on lunchbox's for years, and we're supposed to buy into him suddenly being as aloof as Bigfoot? It smacked of someone not wanting to really write the Hulk and summed up everything I hated about the depressing early Quesada era. I didn't give Marvel a shot again until Planet Hulk (which was great) and Annihilation (which was really great).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 19:45:07 GMT -5
Elfquest once it became a multi title, multi timeline, multi creative team series.
The last two issues of Ralph Snart Adventures vol. 3 when Tony Caputo tried to steal the IP from Marc Hansen and handed off creative duties to some nobodies.
It didn't ruin it, but when Hate went to full color interiors I was disappointed.
The second half of The Wake.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 24, 2015 19:48:00 GMT -5
The 2006 Midnighter series from Wildstorm (Hey, it's almost been ten years), was surprisingly brilliant, even though no one was reading it. Then they turned the title over to Keith Giffen, who promptly rode it into the ground.
A few of my favorite stand-alone comics of all time came from that run.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 24, 2015 19:50:15 GMT -5
And let's go with the blindingly obvious answer: Cerebus. Hell, on some level I even liked READS (at least the first half) but Dave's Bible Fan-Fiction towards the end was just a slog. This is the only part of a GREAT comic I couldn't make it through. Upsetting as it was, I still found Reads fascinating, much in the same way that reading Mein Kampf is fascinating. For me, Melmoth was the true deadweight volume of that series. And Guys was hard to slog through, as well. Still, probably my favorite run of all time, and I wouldn't skip any of it on a second reading. Sim is just too much in a league of his own. Even his most tiresome storylines are still brilliant to look at and experience. |
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Post by DubipR on Sept 24, 2015 20:14:15 GMT -5
Amazing Spider-Man 298
Yeap, first issue of Todd McFarlane's horrific artwork made me drop that series. I know he's considered a groundbreaking artists on the tile but to this day, his artwork is utter drek. You had a brilliant string of brilliant artists and to come up with late 80s/early 90s "Style Over Substance" artwork.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 24, 2015 20:19:02 GMT -5
From #1 to # 221 the Fantastic four was the Worlds greatest comic Magazine like the cover stated. But Moench and Bill Sienkiewicz
took over and it was kinda crappy. I guess Marvel saw this and Byrne was used in # 232 to bring it back to it's roots.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 24, 2015 20:22:49 GMT -5
Amazing Spider-Man 298Yeap, first issue of Todd McFarlane's horrific artwork made me drop that series. I know he's considered a groundbreaking artists on the tile but to this day, his artwork is utter drek. You had a brilliant string of brilliant artists and to come up with late 80s/early 90s "Style Over Substance" artwork. Yeah, I never got his appeal either. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2015 20:31:09 GMT -5
And let's go with the blindingly obvious answer: Cerebus. Hell, on some level I even liked READS (at least the first half) but Dave's Bible Fan-Fiction towards the end was just a slog. This is the only part of a GREAT comic I couldn't make it through. Upsetting as it was, I still found Reads fascinating, much in the same way that reading Mein Kampf is fascinating. For me, Melmoth was the true deadweight volume of that series. And Guys was hard to slog through, as well. Still, probably my favorite run of all time, and I wouldn't skip any of it on a second reading. Sim is just too much in a league of his own. Even his most tiresome storylines are still brilliant to look at and experience. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Reads was never boring. And I will always maintain the first half was kind of brilliant. And Melmoth might have been my very favorite arc of the whole she-bang. Guys definitely dragged a bit, though. But there were some really funny bits! |
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 24, 2015 20:36:33 GMT -5
I thought Denny O'Neil's runs on Iron Man and Daredevil were both horrendous, especially considering the runs that immediately preceded them (Michelinie/Layton and Miller, respectively). He drove me away from both titles. Frankly, I don't like anything he wrote at Marvel. He just didn't to gel with the characters or capture the Marvel feel.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 24, 2015 20:36:53 GMT -5
And Melmoth might have been my very favorite arc of the whole she-bang. Insight requested, please! If I could care less about watching a reimagining of the death of Oscar Wilde completely derail the ongoing Cerebus storyline, what is to enjoy in this volume??? |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2015 20:44:17 GMT -5
And Melmoth might have been my very favorite arc of the whole she-bang. Insight requested, please! If I could care less about watching a reimagining of the death of Oscar Wilde completely derail the ongoing Cerebus storyline, what is to enjoy in this volume??? It's been a while since I read it so some details might be fuzzy. But I thought the whole thing was really sad and affecting and handled with subtlety and grace. And it was after Jaka's Story, so I was used to disgressing away from Cerebus proper. I honestly thought that the "Cerebus" parts of the series were done, and it was gonna be all ancillary characters from here on out. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 24, 2015 20:44:41 GMT -5
I thought Denny O'Neil's runs on Iron Man and Daredevil were both horrendous, especially considering the runs that immediately preceded them (Michelinie/Layton and Miller, respectively). He drove me away from both titles. Frankly, I don't like anything he wrote at Marvel. He just didn't to gel with the characters or capture the Marvel feel. Cei-U! I summon the fish out of water! Did you know he wrote Spider-man? I've never read it and I've never heard anyone mention it, ever. And I spend at lest 70% of my time reading about Spider-man. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 24, 2015 20:49:23 GMT -5
Insight requested, please! If I could care less about watching a reimagining of the death of Oscar Wilde completely derail the ongoing Cerebus storyline, what is to enjoy in this volume??? It's been a while since I read it so some details might be fuzzy. But I thought the whole thing was really sad and affecting and handled with subtlety and grace. And it was after Jaka's Story, so I was used to disgressing away from Cerebus proper. I honestly thought that the "Cerebus" parts of the series were done, and it was gonna be all ancillary characters from here on out. From that perspective, I can see why you enjoyed it. I tend to read series after they've finished, so I always have a vague idea of the general shape of the series as I go in. It only now occurs to me that this might leave me predisposed to dislike stories that wander off the beaten path. Sandman's "World's End" volume was my least favorite of the run for much the same reason. |
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