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Post by The Captain on Sept 29, 2015 7:59:29 GMT -5
Well, since I couldn't find a thread for this show dating back to the board's inception, I figured I would get one started for anyone who is interested in discussing it.
I'm excited about the start of Season 3 tonight, but also a little nervous. After the events at the end of Season 2, I could see the show becoming very Skye/Daisy-centric, and while that would certainly make it more "comic book" in terms of characters with superpowers, it will potentially move away from the central team dynamic that attracted me in the first place.
Here's hoping I'm wrong, and I'm looking forward to seeing how others feel about it as the season progresses!
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Post by Randle-El on Sept 29, 2015 9:47:43 GMT -5
Looking forward to season three as well. Like many others, I think the show got off to a slow start, though I thought it was entertaining enough to keep watching. The Winter Soldier tie-in totally took things in a different direction, but I feel that the Inhuman stuff has been a little uneven. I'm also concerned about the increasing presence of superhero aspects. Since it's in the MCU, it could be argued that the presence of superpowered folks is inevitable, but sometimes I think that lacking the traditional comic book elements forced the writers to be a little more creative and come up with different stories. I think it's easier to just put in a big action scene and let the special effects guys carry the episode for you than to come up with a plot that will keep viewers coming back. Since the release of Daredevil, we have an exhibit A that demonstrates a MCU TV series doesn't need to be so comic book-like to be good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 5:22:14 GMT -5
Solid start to the new series, without setting the world on fine. I liked that they wove in event/characters from the two Avengers films, Ant Man and Iron Man 3, all without overtly shouting about them, they're just stuff that happened in the world in which SHIELD is happening.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 1, 2015 5:55:34 GMT -5
Solid start to the new series, without setting the world on fine. I liked that they wove in event/characters from the two Avengers films, Ant Man and Iron Man 3, all without overtly shouting about them, they're just stuff that happened in the world in which SHIELD is happening. Agreed. It was a solid episode, setting up its own mythology while making sure it reminded viewers that this is part of a bigger world and events that happen in each affect the other (moreso movie universe to TV show, rather than TV show to movie universe, although it would be nice to see some folks from Agents in Civil War, even for just a scene or two, to give the entire universe a little more cohesion). |
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Post by Randle-El on Oct 1, 2015 10:21:29 GMT -5
I've read in a few articles that internally there is some disconnect between Marvel's film and TV divisions. The net effect is that any appearance of the film and TV divisions belonging to the same universe is solely due to the TV folks making efforts to do so, and that the film folks pretty much ignore the TV side. Everything I've seen onscreen would seem to support this theory. The most obvious clue is how none of the Avengers seem to know Phil Coulson is still alive, despite the fact that 1) he provided key intel for the Avengers to locate Baron Strucker, 2) he provided the helicarriers used in the Age of Ultron, and 3) in The Winter Soldier, Black Widow dumped all of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s classified information online, which presumably would have included information on Project Tahiti and Coulson's resurrection.
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Post by Dizzy D on Oct 1, 2015 13:07:35 GMT -5
I read yesterday or the day before someone from Marvel Movies answering to those articles that there's no real disconnect, but the production schedules between movies and TV are just so different, that it's relatively easy to implement changes into the TV-series to corresped with the movies, because they are written and filmed so quickly, but that movies are mostly planned and filmed months before the corresponding TV episodes are even written. He said that they were trying to tie the TV shows into the movies more though.
I'll see if I can find the link.
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Post by Randle-El on Oct 1, 2015 14:34:20 GMT -5
I read yesterday or the day before someone from Marvel Movies answering to those articles that there's no real disconnect, but the production schedules between movies and TV are just so different, that it's relatively easy to implement changes into the TV-series to corresped with the movies, because they are written and filmed so quickly, but that movies are mostly planned and filmed months before the corresponding TV episodes are even written. He said that they were trying to tie the TV shows into the movies more though. I'll see if I can find the link. That was an interview with Kevin Feige, the head of Marvel Studios. That sounds like a logical response, but honestly... what else would you expect someone from corporate to say in an interview? It could be the truth, or it could be spin. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 4:26:19 GMT -5
Solid 2nd issue. Must admit I thought they would play out the missing Simmons storyline a lot longer - ie Fitz is dragged back having just lost Simmons hand, moan wail we must find another gateway, etc etc. Kind of a neat bait & switch to reveal her in the wreckage as well.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 8, 2015 5:48:18 GMT -5
Solid 2nd issue. Must admit I thought they would play out the missing Simmons storyline a lot longer - ie Fitz is dragged back having just lost Simmons hand, moan wail we must find another gateway, etc etc. Kind of a neat bait & switch to reveal her in the wreckage as well.
This was a big step up from the season opener. While I do understand that they need to set up conflicts and really establish a new status quo due to the emergence of Daisy's powers and her quest to put together a team of super-powered folks (nice "Secret Warriors" mention in this episode), things moved along a lot more crisply this week. I'm most interested to see the fallout of the recovering of Simmons story. You don't just introduce something as big as a portal to another world and trap one of your team members on it, only to have it resolved in two episodes. If the total sum of the encounter was that Simmons is a bit crazy now and realizes that Fitz loves her, that will be a total letdown. She was on another planet, for crying out loud, so the ramifications of that have to be huge.
I also liked that they introduced von Strucker's kid as a rich brat, but when pushed, he showed his heritage. Interested to see where that goes, particularly in light of the final scene. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 12, 2015 15:08:19 GMT -5
Solid 2nd issue. Must admit I thought they would play out the missing Simmons storyline a lot longer - ie Fitz is dragged back having just lost Simmons hand, moan wail we must find another gateway, etc etc. Kind of a neat bait & switch to reveal her in the wreckage as well.
I expected that they might drag out the "Simmons in Space" plot out longer, but I'm glad they didn't. Having Fitz lose hold of her hand and get dragged back alone would have been too much the stereotypical way to deal with it. Now that she's back, hopefully they'll draw on it for additional story material in future episodes. What did she see there? What was she running from in the season opening episode? If the portal was connected to the Kree, was the planet maybe Hala? Could she have learned about upcoming Kree mischief? |
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Post by The Captain on Oct 28, 2015 7:03:22 GMT -5
Interesting, but very different episode of the show last night. It focused entirely on Simmons' time on the alien planet she was transported to by the monolith, as she promised at the end of last episode to tell the whole story of her time away; the only other regular cast member to appear was Fitz, and not until the last 2 minutes. I'm intrigued to find out what they have planned with this angle, as you don't devote an entire episode of a show to a storyline unless there is a big revelation or payoff in the works.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Oct 28, 2015 10:59:47 GMT -5
Hey guys, I watched the first 3 episodes of season one and hated it. I thought it was not even up to the standards of a 12 year old and the production values were cloes to the ones of an Indiana Jones porn parody or something. Does it get better?
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Post by The Captain on Oct 28, 2015 11:06:41 GMT -5
Hey guys, I watched the first 3 episodes of season one and hated it. I thought it was not even up to the standards of a 12 year old and the production values were cloes to the ones of an Indiana Jones porn parody or something. Does it get better? It gets much better later in Season One once "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" is released. They had to tread a lot of water and wait for the big happenings in that movie before they could really move their stories forward. Season Two is a big step forward as well, IMO. As for the production values, if you are expecting them to match what you see in a Marvel movie on the big screen, you will be sorely disappointed. However, they do improve over time, even through the first season, and their handling of Absorbing Man and other powered individuals in Season Two is much better. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 5:47:53 GMT -5
Everyone still watching? This season has been excellent, so far - some good bait & switch over revelations. Shame we're almost on the mid-season break, as it's got real momentum, but I guess we can expect a cliff-hanger next week.
And in the interim, Agent Carter is back
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Post by The Captain on Nov 20, 2015 6:35:07 GMT -5
Everyone still watching? This season has been excellent, so far - some good bait & switch over revelations. Shame we're almost on the mid-season break, as it's got real momentum, but I guess we can expect a cliff-hanger next week. And in the interim, Agent Carter is back I'm definitely still watching. This season has been very good so far, and I like how they are weaving in the larger MU while also keeping the show accessible to non-comic book folks (like my wife). They haven't let certain subplots linger on without resolution (such as "Who is Lash" or "What happened to Simmons when she went through the portal"), so it feels like the show is going somewhere rather than being mysterious for the sake of being mysterious. It certainly is a shame that the winter hiatus is upon us, but I like that once they come back in the spring, it's new episodes every (or almost every) week until the end. And my wife is very excited that Agent Carter is soon to be on our TV. She liked that show as much, if not more than, AoS last season. |
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