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Post by tarkintino on Apr 14, 2021 19:03:10 GMT -5
Wow, people are up in arms about Season 6 Ep 8 of Fear The Walking Dead....but it was damn good.
I liked it. . and didnt' have it spoiled by even 1 person.
I guess the fact that it took me 3 days to watch it is a sign that many are not that invested in this show anymore.
oh well. . it was a good episode, even if there are way too many (bad) characters still around, and having them split up is working against the show.
So, if you were running FTWD, which characters would you get rid of, and why?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 22:24:09 GMT -5
I liked it. . and didnt' have it spoiled by even 1 person.
I guess the fact that it took me 3 days to watch it is a sign that many are not that invested in this show anymore.
oh well. . it was a good episode, even if there are way too many (bad) characters still around, and having them split up is working against the show.
So, if you were running FTWD, which characters would you get rid of, and why? Easy:
I'd bring back Madison (find a way she escaped the Stadium).
Core cast would be Madison, Alisha, Strand, Charlie, and Daniel. Add Dwight (and I'd be fine if they add Sherrie to this group too). .and there's the main cast.
Move Morgan to "recurring" - let him form his community in the riverbed, with the pregnant lady (who's so dull I can't even remember her name). Check in on him occasionally, but there's simply too much Morgan for a character that simply does NOT have any more storyline really to give.
Really pretty much any other character can go into this community if they don't want to kill them off, but I seriously could not care less about Virginia, her Sister, Al, June, the Truckers, Nick girlfriend (seriously, it's been 4 seasons and I can't recall the character name, tho the actress is good).
too many characters, not enough story among them to keep the show interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 22:27:47 GMT -5
^ oh, and two popular characters killed off by teenage girls shooting them in the chest - and then the young girl is welcomed to the group anyways? less than 3 years apart?
yeah. . the writers are out of ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 14:53:18 GMT -5
terrible episode last night.
Treading water, characters in the same situations they've been in for two seasons now. . and an ending that wasnt' "shocking" but just showed how pointless the "big bad" has been.
feh.. I was bored.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 1:04:53 GMT -5
The season finale for Fear The Walking Dead was good, it continues to be best of all 3 shows.
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Post by tarkintino on Jun 13, 2021 13:44:59 GMT -5
The season finale for Fear The Walking Dead was good, it continues to be best of all 3 shows.
Agreed; it was the most impactful season finale in the show's history, but there's no true resolution, and viewers will not be able to predict a way forward...
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Post by shaxper on Jun 17, 2021 11:29:09 GMT -5
The season finale for Fear The Walking Dead was good, it continues to be best of all 3 shows. I had no idea there were THREE Walking Dead shows running! I honestly thought the show was over. it's certainly not the cultural zeitgeist it was a few years back. I couldn't help overhearing about each episode in my daily life for quite a while (one death even made its way onto the marquee of a repurposed movie theater that wished her a peaceful slumber!), but I can't remember the last time someone even mentioned the show in casual conversation around me.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 20, 2023 16:28:55 GMT -5
Since it finally arrived on Netflix in Canada, I started watching season 11. Season 10 I had listened to while drawing, but without paying too much attention; with the big changes in the cast I felt less involved. However, I must say that season 11 really picked up the pace in its first half; this bodes well for the show's finale.
I like the way different ways to survive a zombie apocalypse were explored. The Whisperers from the previous seasons were probably the most original, although I don't see why they had to go all nihilistic; the idea to disguise oneself as a zombie and herding them didn't really require one to also become a monster. However, in season 11 we do meet genuine monsters: on the one hand, modern Vikings (actually a band of mercenaries, but they act like Norsemen of old) who abuse their strength and skill to take whatever they want and impose an "order" which is nothing more than their killing everyone, arguing they're just doing what needs to be done; on the other, cannibalistic degenerates who have gone totally feral over the past ten years and prey on the living like animals. Bah! Rick Grimes was right to ask why we deserve to survive!
Add to that the Commonwealth, a society that managed to rebuild itself and regain actual order and prosperity, but in the Mussolini fashion. Makes one wonder why we can't all simply get along, but it certainly reflects the real world.
What I liked the most about the TV version of this great comic is how, as would happen in real life, the kids born after the apocalypse don't react to zombies the way we do. To them, they're just part of the natural world; a threat that might be akin to that of cars wen crossing a street. The danger is there, but you just have to be careful.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 24, 2023 11:26:35 GMT -5
The show's finale made me nostalgic of the older ones, so I went and re-watched the end of season 1 and the start of season 2.
I was struck by how the zombies look "fresher" in season 1, which might be explained by the show having a lower budget when it began, but also makes a lot of sense in the context of the story: the corpses aren't that old yet, since the zombie apocalypse happened only a few days prior.
Also, zombies back then were a lot faster than in later seasons; they would even do things like crawl under a car to get to you. That's interesting because the characters eventually got used to walkers who only ambled slowly, unable to really manage such simple things as door handles or stairwells. The "variants' we meet later on, able to climb ladders or use rocks as weapons, might have been there all along! I wonder if whatever causes corpses to be renimated isn't subject to natural selection, with slower-moving walkers not being able to bite as many victims, thus allowing the variants to progressively become more common.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 14:26:51 GMT -5
There will be several spin-off series coming soon....Maggie and Negan will be a team and in a walker-infested Manhattan. Daryl will somehow find his way to Paris for his spin-off series.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 25, 2024 9:30:47 GMT -5
The Youtube algorithm made me aware that AMC offered free episodes of their multiple Walking Dead spin-offs.
I distractedly followed the final season of the main show a while ago, as it concluded the Commonwealth arc. I believe it would have been fine to just end the whole thing there, but we all know how these things work... As long as money keeps coming, we'll get more Star Wars, Star Trek and Walking Dead spin-offs!
The Ones Who Live was, as I understand it, meant to be developed as a film series following the adventures of Michonne and Rick. (In the TV series, unlike the comics, the two characters are a couple). The plot we see developed here works much better as a TV series, I think, than it would have as a feature film; however, irrespective of its final form, it is something of a disappointment to me. It's great to see Rick and Michonne again, sure, and I'd say that the main strength of the Walking Dead, as was the case with Game of Thrones, is it colourful characters. Managing to kill them on a regular basis and replace them with other colourful characters is quite a feat, but one should be careful not go too often to that well; certain new additions may not be up to the challenge. But anyway, here our two heroes are still kicking butt, and a few familiar faces show up as well.
I had a few problems with the transition between the original and this spin-off. As actors needed to move to greener pastures, some people in the Walking Dead saw their characters written off (not always by shuffling off this mortal coil). Rick, for example, was thought lost when he blew up a bridge to stop a zombie invasion, in a very Horatius-like fashion. Michonne, off to have adventires in Wakanda, eventually left the show to look for him. Now it looks as if their schedule and interest allows a happy reunion, so let's see what happens next!
Rick had been rescued in TWD by another character, Anne, who obviously worked for some powerful group (that had at least one working helicopter). She contacted her allies saying something cryptic like "I found you an A", and the severely wounded Rick was air-lifted away. In a later episode, we saw a grayer Rick obviously trying to escape someone before being recaptured by people in military gear. Today the mystery is made clear: Rick was taken by a military outfit (the CRM, not the same army as the Commonwealth's) that seems to run things in Philadelphia and has founded an alliance with similarly-minded folks in Omaha and Portland. It's all a bit déjà vu, as once again we have people with guns running things in fascistic fashion to to rebuild a better world. For five years, Rick is kept there protecting Philadelphia by stabbing zombies; I still don't understand why anyone would waste fuel to fly him in from Alexandria just so he can do such menial work. What's more, as an "A" (meaning someone who shows initiative and could become a leader), he was supposed to be eliminated because the CRM likes sheep -but for some reason wasn't. Over the years Rick tried to escape repeatedly to go back to his family, but the CRM is dead set on preventing anyone from learning that Philadelphia is a safe city, so nobody is allowed off the premises. Once again, this sounds like plot-mandated nonsense; no such secret can be kept for very long, and besides what would it change? The CRM could make mincemeat of any ragtag band of hooligans trying to cause trouble. Furthermore, a sympathetic character sees potential in Rick and wants to groom him as a member of the CRM to help him change the system from the inside; this helps move the plot forward, but is also odd because this new fellow should only know Rick as the stubborn and uncooperative ass that he insists on being; he shouldn't know that he is indeed revolutionary material.
Things develop from there, but after one episode, The Ones Who Live really feels like something we have already seen in this franchise. It's not bad, but I'd have preferred to see some develpment in the post-apocalyptic world, a it like we saw in the final story arc of the Walking Dead comic.
Meanwhile, Daryl Dixon follows the further adventures of Georgia's sexiest redneck... in France! Since this isn't a Netflix show, I wonder... What monetary reason would prompt AMC to set its series overseas? In any case, despite the no longer fresh Mad Max-like look of the Walking Dead universe, we get a few new concepts here (like having different kinds of zombies, including "burners" whose touch causes one's flesh to sizzle and turn to bacon). And yes, zuh frequent use of Voltaire's language eez veree pleasant to ziss French-Canadian viewer. That series I'd probably watch more of were it available.
Dead City I've only just begun, but it has Jeffrey Dean Morgan in it so of course I'll be there. Even if all he does is read the New York phone book aloud.
I think there are more episodes of yet other spin-offs; I'll probably check them all out.
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