I meant what I said (behind), here's a tentative list of comics between 7.5 and 10:

• Watchmen
• TDKR, Understanding Comics
• Year One, Born Again, A Dream of Flying, Europe After the Reign
• Saga of the Swamp Thing, Fragmentos de la Enciclopedia Délfica, Planetary, The Red King Syndrome, Olympus, This Vicious Cabaret, The Land of Do-As-You-Please, Ronin, Elektra: Assassin and something I'm surely forgetting
• Stratos, Paracuellos, La Zizanie, El Eternauta (Breccia version), Jaka's Story, Enigma, Seasons of Mist, The kindly Ones, From Hell, Sin City, The High Cost of Living and not that many more
• The Republic is Burning and quite a few others

The last comic in the list, also marks the highest point in my latest rating graphs, were you can find 1,500 superhero comics rated much lower than that. The point is, if it's good, I don't care what genre it pertains to. I don't feel the urge to diversify my tastes, to the point were I would have to dig outside the predominant genre, looking for material to dress my selves, to finally try and sell it to myself, as a good investment of my time.

After the political transition, we picked up on the foreign (european) production. At some point, at the beginning of the 80's, you could count up to 18 magazines, lots of catching up to do. There was also a lot of autochthonous production, both from artists who had been previously been working for international publishers, most notably the british female market, as well as new talent that flourished in that rich environment. The 90's marked the end of all that, and people either resumed their "professional life", or looked elsewhere in publicity, TV or other media. A good part of them found work inside the comic industry, but abroad: Pacheco, Larroca or Ferry, in the USA; Juan Giménez in France; Segura & Ortiz in Italy…

There's still some residual activity, but the big publishers basically translate foreign production. Public awareness towards comics, is almost non-existent.

If you say "behind", that would mean it's not as good as Maus and the rest of the list. You're entitled with your own opinion, not with your own facts.

You do realize that out of the top 16 titles of your list 14 are super hero comics, right (I take that the first two lines are the best ones since you rated Watchmen 10 and said t was one of the 4 bes comic book ever, whatever the genre it is)?

Also, you say you don't care what genre the comic is, but right after that you state that you don't feel an urge to diversify your tastes outside superheroes (since it's the dominant genre in your library).
You just make no sense. I really struggle understanding what you mean as it just looks like contradiction after contradiction.

About the spanish cultural sphere, having performed there many times as a musician, it's true that the long lasting dictatorship has left a grimm mark still deeply felt, which result in making it almost impossible to build anything of substance in the long run, apart from a few directors, thanks to international co-productions (Most Almodovar movies are produced by Canal Plus). It's sad, since there of course is talent, but difficult to develop localy. the music scene is a sad testimony of that.

BTW, Prado's Stratos was indeed a fine comic, I enjoyed it when I was a young teen. Has it aged well?

This is mesmerizing...

I didn't bent numbers backwards : I respected the fact that YOU divided it into separate volumes!
I don't want to find contradiction, I just want to find something that makes sense.
This last post furthers those problems. Of course when I mention authors in this thread I mean their work. And in my book, Ronin, Elektra, V for Vendetta and even Swamp hThing to a certain degree belong to the superhero genre, solo vigilantes with extraordinary aptitudes set against vilains. Sure those are more than that, but furthermore, those are perceived like htat by mainstream audiences (Swamp Thing, V for Vendetta and Elektra even had movies marketed as superhero movies FCS!).

So. Didn't you indeed state that Planetary was greater then any works of the authors I listed? That was my question.
To which you appear to have answered yes, or have I gotten that wrong as well?

Anyhow, You might think Watchmen, DKR, Born Again, Planetary, etc are the pinacle of the medium, but all your giberish about this being close to facts due to research and statistics still sounds like total pointless nonsense until you explain it further. But all in all, there are so many factors that make this pointless (the fact that you will never have read every good comics of every country, not even of america, the fact the the cursor of judgement is your own sole subjective opinion, etc) that I struggle to understand why you don't let this go.
Believe me I have no personnal beef about that, it's just frustrating to hit a wall

And for the record, I find most of Ed Brubakers works are far superior to Planetary on both a story and art level, but that's just my opinion, one that doesn't matter less or more then yours, until it is truthfully debated

OMG... You're unbelievable, and you can't even see it.
I don't have an argument, just questions and disbelief. Now I can only conclude you're trolling. Enjoy that and your social skills, cheers

I agree. Moore was trying to tie in a comics creator to the story and also give a nod to the whole genre of monster comics that preceded the Marvel Age. But just for tight storytelling, having Doctor Manhattan be the alleged threat was a much more elegant solution, both because he was already part of the story and because the whole world was kind of worried about him anyway, for good reason, and the last time he was seen, he was a little enraged. That makes his possible return that much more likely, as opposed to a giant alien squid that comes out of nowhere, so that "We'd better lay aside all human conflict in case more of these things attack us and we can do something about it proactively next time" is not a very realistic scenario.

Mind you, I don't think Ozymandias' solution would really work for very long in either case. Unless there's an actual ongoing stream of attacks or disasters, it won't be long before the nations are back to their squabbles. And Ozymandias would be smart enough to know that and wouldn't actually declare victory just because world peace broke out for five minutes.